Crystal Skulls...any good new information?

I do agree it does sound incredibly farfetched and there is no possible way to prove it rather than the polygraph, which is highly inaccurate. I like to see these things with an open mind. For instance, does all of that sound like some joe-schmoe idiot could come up with off the top of their head?

Originally posted by truthsetfree2009
does all of that sound like some joe-schmoe idiot could come up with off the top of their head?

what you mean this

"We give you one (crystal skull) where we left markings on the earth ... and high in the mountains ... there will be one of blue in the region you call 'South America' ... there will be another when the lost civilization that you call 'Atlantis' rises to you"

"When all the reciptacles are placed together you will be keepers of wonderous knowledge.... light and sound will be the key, when the right vibration is produced you will have the information you require"

its complete nonsense
show me anywhere that there is any evidence of crystal skulls in Atlantis
better than that show me any evidence that they exist anywhere outside of cult objects in mesoamerica

What do you mean by "mesoamerican cult objects?" Although they were advanced architechs, they didn't have the capacity to create something as detailed as the Mitchel-Hedges skull.

From www.world-mysteries.com...:

"...it is impossible to say how the Mitchell-Hedges skull was constructed. From a technical standpoint, it appears to be an impossible object which today's most talented sculptors and engineers would be unable to duplicate.
...Researchers found that the skull had been carved against the natural axis of the crystal. Modern crystal sculptors always take into account the axis, or orientation of the crystal's molecular symmetry, because if they carve "against the grain," the piece is bound to shatter -- even with the use of lasers and other high-tech cutting methods."

How does it feel to be arguing with a kid?

its cool kid
what you need to know is that not all websites are as dedicated to the truth as ATS
try this link
skepdic.com...
it was posted on the previous page but you seem to have missed it
tells you all about the Mitchell Hedges skull
ah the impetuousness of youth

Ah, the hard-headed skeptic...
I still believe there is something mysterious about these skulls. The story about the history of the mitchell-hedges' skull is a bunch of B.S., but not the skull itself. There is something about the skulls that matters, that is vital.


Another thing about skeptics...

Yes, question all. Question everything you can, but keep an open mind.


Peace.

story about the history of the mitchell-hedges' skull is a bunch of B.S., but not the skull itself.

the skull itself was made in germany in the 1850s
whats so mysetrious about that
you are projecting your own personal beliefs onto it
its ok to have an open mind Kid
but try not to have it so open that your brain drops onto the table

there are mysteries worthy of your consideration and awe
this isn't one of them

the skull itself was made in germany in the 1850s

Marduk,

Where is your proof of this? Please provide it.

Thank you,

Jackcash

[edit on 19-3-2007 by JackCash]

read all the posts first before asking for information thats already been provided twice Jack

Originally posted by Marduk
its cool kid
what you need to know is that not all websites are as dedicated to the truth as ATS
try this link
skepdic.com...
it was posted on the previous page but you seem to have missed it
tells you all about the Mitchell Hedges skull
ah the impetuousness of youth

OK, Since we are talking conspiracies here,

What makes the above link the almighty truth?

I've actualy been wondering about these skulls lately.

After getting a brief introduction to piezoelectrics (investigation related to those electric snapper ignited lighters which work with a quartz crystal, in some unexpected deaths of people with pacemakers), I remembered that these crystal skulls are made of quartz crystals.

It made me wonder how many high voltage shocks the sculptor got when splicing pieces of the chrystals which would finaly be polished to the skulls we know.

In piezoelectric crystals, the impact made on the crystal is proportional to the voltage it releases. You can easely get 1000 volts out of a crystal (very low current though).

Now that I see this thread again, I'm gona check into how the size of a crystal relates to the voltage and current it can generate.

OK, Since we are talking conspiracies here,

What makes the above link the almighty truth?

when things are genuine theres a wealth of information to prove it
in the case of the mitchell hedges skull it does not resemble any of the genuine skulls from mesoamerica and the owners are suspiciously quiet and the pseudo evidence for it being something special falls flat when you look into it
the genuine ones look like this

fake ones look like this


can you spot the difference

see the Mayan peoples were into producing heavily stylised works of art and not anatomically correct statuary
have a look at some of their other works of art and you'll soon see what i mean
images.google.co.uk...

and then theres this

Rob McConnell
Believers in the power of the Mitchell-Hedges Crystal Skull, beware! Although it is a truly magnificent ancient artifact, who origin and age are unknown, the purpose of the artifact is still unknown, on many levels.
The crystal skull was NOT found in 1924, 1925, 1926, or 1927 by Anna Mitchell-Hedges, the adopted daughter of Mike Mitchell-Hedges. The skull was actually bought by Mitchell-Hedges in 1943 at an auction at Sothebys in London, England, from Sidney Burney. This was confirmed by notes found at the British Museum.

Other evidence further supports the discovery that the skull did not take place during a British Expedition. There are no records or photographs of the crystal skull. Sidney Burney and others who were on the expedition, claimed from day one, that Mitchell-Hedges did not find the skull in Lubaatun. Mitchell-Hedges himself, according to friends, family and associates, did not start talking about the skull until 1943 after purchasing the skull.

The first time that the Burney Skull was mentioned was in 1936. During the lectures, seminars, and speaking engagements that Mitchell-Hedges gave between from the time he returned from Lubaatun, until 1943, just prior to the sale of the Burney Skull, he never mentioned it.

I have discovered that the lost tribe of Indians that Mitchell-Hedges claimed to have discovered, were in fact discovered by Balboa. Mitchell-Hedges never attended Cambridge. Based on exhaustive research and interviews, Mitchell-Hedges has a very low credibility rating.

The many references that Mitchell-Hedges had made about the bad luck or the willing of people to death by the crystal skull have been found to be the figments of his own very colorful and vivid imagination. There is no scientific proof whatsoever that the crystal skull has been responsible for any harm falling on a person or any miraculous healing or other miracle.

the claim about 13 crystal skulls is a totally fabricated modern myth
none of the tribes who made this stuff ever claimed that for them
they were used as ritual pieces in religious rites
usually the ones where people got their hearts cut out and rolled down the steps of the temple

Thanks for sharing that Marduk,

You posted what you believe to be a fake skull and a real skull

Do you believe in the mystery of the crystal skulls?

Do you believe the actual authentic skulls hold some sort of power or information to be had?

What is your take on this topic? Or do you just believe it's hogwash?

JackCash

Well, if they are actually made of quartz crystals, they are able to generate high voltages. Quartz is one of the best piezoelectric crystals.

If these skulls were seen as magic, I could see how they were made to be thought of that way. Anyone ever get shocked by the electric sparker of a lighter? Those are powered by a quartz hammering mechanism and it packs a pritty spiffy punch for something that small.

Originally posted by thematrixNow that I see this thread again, I'm gona check into how the size of a crystal relates to the voltage and current it can generate.

Before you get too excited about it, you should note that the crystal skulls have a number of visible imperfections and flaws in the crystals (go look at a picture where the light is coming from above and it's not put on a fanciful background). Crystals used in piezoelectrics MUST be pure crystal with no flaws.

Do you believe in the mystery of the crystal skulls?

only in the mystery of why they are mysteries

Do you believe the actual authentic skulls hold some sort of power or information to be had?

no. the authentic skulls are documented and are basically ritual objects used in religion in the same way that your local church has a cross above the altar

What is your take on this topic? Or do you just believe it's hogwash?

its mostly hogwash
people get excited because they read fantastic claims about them in books written my new agers who wouldn't know what Mayan was if it kicked them in the ass
to date no one has ever managed to generate anything except speculation from a crystal skull
and considering the culture that made the genuine ones was at least a millenia behind our current level of technology its not looking very likely is it

Originally posted by Marduk
people get excited because they read fantastic claims about them in books written my new agers who wouldn't know what Mayan was if it kicked them in the ass

Yes, you get as excited as they get excited about pseudoscience. Where is the self control?

By the way, Crystal Skulls do exists!!!!!!!!!!!!! as I do have crystal glass for French wine, no English wine, sorry.

I repeat, that crystal skulls do exists, to what context and purpose, I don't know.

Originally posted by CinLung
By the way, Crystal Skulls do exists!!!!!!!!!!!!! as I do have crystal glass for French wine, no English wine, sorry.

I repeat, that crystal skulls do exists, to what context and purpose, I don't know.

So?
I'm not so sure what you are trying to say.
It is evident that you are.. some how very happy, which is good
But nobody is arguing about the existence of crystal skulls.

Originally posted by Marduk
to date no one has ever managed to generate anything except speculation from a crystal skull

True just speculations.

Originally posted by Byrd
Before you get too excited about it, you should note that the crystal skulls have a number of visible imperfections and flaws in the crystals (go look at a picture where the light is coming from above and it's not put on a fanciful background). Crystals used in piezoelectrics MUST be pure crystal with no flaws.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge

Here is a video with the skull and lady giving info.
www.youtube.com...

I suggest wacthing the other vids also, its good.

From Hawaii,
I was trying to keep an open mind, and still after reading a dozen or more articles on the net, had not decided in what I would conclude. I could not find any recent scientific study or test done on the crystal and was looking for some answers on the actual complexity of carving and thanks to Byrd I have that answer along with Marduk's logical statement,

see the Mayan peoples were into producing heavily stylised works of art and not anatomically correct statuary

I will continue to support the authenticity of that which can be proven with little doubt but the Mitchell-Hedges Crystal Skull looks to be a hoax.
As far as my opinion on the "esoteric secrets" behind these artifacts, I would concluded that our Thoughts and Ideas have far more power than the inanimate objects in the universe. If I believe I have the power to deliver energy from my intent to an object then maybe I can project this. What will I want to do with this power then? I must have causation or I'm just "jacking off". Why would I want to believe that something outside of myself can save me from myself? I would rather put my faith on my Brother than project it into a rock that can only sing back to me. Quartz may have some usefulness in channeling energies of the sort but you have to honestly know what you are doing and not what you've read.