Russian Film Admiral Byrd fighting Saucers

Ever since the larger presence of scientists and researchers descended upon the antartic from the 1958 geophysical year of exploration onward there have been UFO sighting in the region. So whatever is the catalyst for seeing UFOs in the world it spilled over into the southern polar area with sceintific types of chaps as observers however.

Here are some things I've pieced together over the years about Byrd's activities. I am not suggesting any or all is true but simply present it as information gleaned over the years:


[Mod Edit: All the material contained here was lifted from a single external source. The text in full is available here: Research Study #6 Published July 27, 2003, www.exopolitics.org, Michael E. Salla, PhD - Jak]

[edit on 31/10/06 by JAK]

I am ashamed to be a part of this community if anyone think those black dots was not faked...

Originally posted by SKUNK
Zorgon i'm sorry for saying this! If you think there are ufo's in that film you need to go to the doctors for your head to be tested.

LOL Actually I am more interested in where those battle scenes came from and what they are saying about the wormhole at the poles.

The black blobs fake? Could be... but why, by whon and what are they trying to say

The fact is there was a huge expedition down there and there were three german subs chased down their, and in an interview Admiral Byrd DID say it was "mostly a miliatery operation" Operation Highjump lists all the ships...

Thats a lot of floating hardware and a lot of manpower for an "exploration" He had unlimited funding "to get the job done" but left suddenly after weeks not the planned months...

So.... I wanna know what REALLY went down


Edit to add...

Oops Posted before I read Cruizer coverage of events....

Originally posted by Cruizer
So maybe all that time on the ice warped Byrd's brain or maybe not.

That would put a new definition on "brain freeze". I do find it interesting though that everytime some major figure makes any comment that is out of the ordinary, they are suddenly crazy, yet we all keep screamimg... "Why do the people involved never speak up?"

Can't have it both ways... either something big happened or he was totally nuts, in which case would he not have been tossed into an assylum as was prevalent in those days?

Then there is this little piece of the puzzle...

Excerpt

After the first part of Britain's Secret War in Antarctica was published in the August/September edition of NEXUS (vol. 12, no. 5), I was inundated with people and specialists in their field with more substantiating information. However, by far the most intriguing and exciting was an email sent to me by Miles Johnston who investigated a strange story about Antarctica with Danny Wilson whilst with the Irish UFO Research Center. The center was contacted by an Eric Wilkinson in 1975, who had reported a strange incident in 1966 when he was with the British Antarctic Survey. An even stranger photo backs up the story (see above). In Miles Johnston's own words, he explains:
"In 1975 I investigated a UFO/Strange Black Ray Cloud formation, taken by a Belfast member of the British Antarctic Survey. He gave me some images of a pulsing cloud formation firing a black ray into the ice, which bounced off and reflected further away from him. Who knows... maybe someone down there is using negative energy beam weapons? Or was... since the images were taken in 1966."

SOURCE

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cruizer : sorry to be a wet blanket - but the quotes you give are later fabrications : doneintz , byrd et al never uttered the lines attributed to them .

further operation high jump did not end prematurely .

and only 4 servicemen were killed - one in a ship board accident - and the other 3 in a single plane crash [ an unarmed plane BTW ]

lastly - look up operation windmill

for some strange reason conspiracy sites tend to over look it

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
for some strange reason conspiracy sites tend to over look it

And for some equally strange reason anti-conspiracy theorist theorists (debunkers) always quote "official" sources We all know how accurate and believable those are...

But I will go check it out Never know what gems you can find between the lines

Originally posted by zorgon
(debunkers) always quote "official" sources

We all know how accurate and believable those are...

these unofficial sources you are so fond of , can you show any evidence thatcan verify them ?

in short , highjump and windmill were both military operations , conducted in antarctic waters - there were no third party witnesses

so where the hell do your unofficial sources come from ?

PS - can you cite any verifiable independant accounts from crew men on highjump ships - that confirm the conspiracist claim ??

there were thousnds - why have none come forward ???

and all your quotes - can you cite any primary sources which would confirm thier provenance and date they were aledgedly uttered ?

the doenitz quote is my " favourite " please cite a primary source for this .

PS - Padfeild , Blarir , Terraine etal do not mention this quote - in the definetive books on doenitz and the U-boat war

nor do any of the hitler biograohers of any repute : kershaw , overy , Heiden , fest , hastings etc

please explain why they all missed or ignored such a monumentous pronoucement .

in short - no

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
these unofficial sources you are so fond of , can you show any evidence thatcan verify them ?

in short , highjump and windmill were both military operations , conducted in antarctic waters - there were no third party witnesses

so where the hell do your unofficial sources come from ?

PS - can you cite any verifiable independant accounts from crew men on highjump ships - that confirm the conspiracist claim ??

there were thousnds - why have none come forward ???

and all your quotes - can you cite any primary sources which would confirm thier provenance and date they were aledgedly uttered ?

the doenitz quote is my " favourite " please cite a primary source for this .

PS - Padfeild , Blarir , Terraine etal do not mention this quote - in the definetive books on doenitz and the U-boat war

nor do any of the hitler biograohers of any repute : kershaw , overy , Heiden , fest , hastings etc

please explain why they all missed or ignored such a monumentous pronoucement .

in short - no

You have voted ignorant_ape for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have one more vote left for this month.

Very well put mate.

However if you need a physics degree to know the truth about a superimposed black smudge on a film frame then we're all really in trouble with the rest of the video's claims.


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Originally posted by ignorant_ape
these unofficial sources you are so fond of , can you show any evidence that can verify them ?

I shall see what I can do... just started looking at this... and I don't have anything against official sources, just how they are interpreted

But then finding links to data is what ATS members is for isn't it? If the facts are "out there" someone in here will have them...

And if not I chase a few wild penguins. For all I know at this moment those Russkies are saying "...those crazy Amerikanski's will believe anything!"

Ignorant ape please read the lead in where I said I never claim any or all to be true. Zorgon asked for more stuff on Byrd and I complied with bits and pieces of the lore that has been circulating for a long time.

Byrd was a strange bird as it were anyway. He was almost physically driven to explore the polar regions. I'd call it fanatical but some might not. What he was quoted as saying in newsreels was almost double speak with the "land beyond the pole," business. He'd get all mystical in his verbiage about that but that's like saying there is something beyond the so called 0° x 0° pole. Yeah more of the same- ice. So what the hell was he talking about? A couple of his exploration flights' distances were askew in the number of miles he stated too. If correct they'd have put him off the other side over the ocean.

I have a book from the 1960s somewhere that discusses some of his weirdness but I can't find it this second. I have about 2,000 books and many are stored out in the garage.

All the 1930s German expeditions to the region were the real deal and you can see the Antartic locations named by them today. The rather astounding post-war stories don't seem to have one source. They have been going around since the late 1960s when I 1st heard of them.

Originally posted by CruizerI have about 2,000 books and many are stored out in the garage.

Ummmm where did you say you lived?

BTW thanks for the info Its always nice to have pointers where to look. I suppose anyone associated with strange unorthodox ideas always gets tagged with ridicule... until proven right. Our history books are full of innovative and "out there" thinkers who died broke and humiliated, and only now are recognized...

So much for the open mind of scientists

I'd simply like to learn more about the warm areas confirmed by the Americans in 1947 that they baptized Garden of Queen Mary. This is what Capt. Ritscher found in 1938 at the 70th Parallel, Longitude 0.

The American described it as "... a succession of hills covered in dwarf conifers and musk deer and dotted with 23 lakes." The warmth is no likely from volcanic activity but it was surmised that the area could be rich in uranium. Geologic probes have confirmed, gold, chrome, pertoleum, molybdenum, graphite, coal and the unranium discussed.

Byrd himself saw a coal seam from the air that was so gigantic that it could serve the needs of the entire world far into the future. Since coal is formed from wood, peat, organic matter and other minerals from a swampy ecosystem, it is reasonable to assume that the Antarctic was once a warm terrestrial land free of ice.

Originally posted by Cruizer
I'd simply like to learn more about the warm areas confirmed by the Americans in 1947 that they baptized Garden of Queen Mary. This is what Capt. Ritscher found in 1938 at the 70th Parallel, Longitude 0.

i guess that means the south africans are part of the conspiracy now as are germany , norway with the tor and troll antarctic bases .

here: atarctic bases list . is the full list of manned stations in antarctica - it aint as empty as some people think .

PS - I will have to double check co ordinates - but i am off the opinion that 70S , 0E is not land but part of the Fimbul iceshelf

Hi,

Good thread, zorgon.

I found one in You Tube identical to yours, also spoken in Russian.


Some images are the same; maybe a different TV program, and they are talking about Operation High Jump and the Germans bases in Antarctica.

Parts of the film are simulations (or animations), like the war with the saucers, but I think they are to exemplify the narrative, someone that speaks Russian could tell better.

Good list, ignorant_ape.

brotherthebig.

A quick aid for those wanting to check out the Russian video...the 'saucer' battle appears at 11:13 into 'secrets of the third reich'. I've heard of Byrd's postwar battle in the Antarctic, but this is the first that I've heard it associated with UFO's. What hasn't been mentioned on this thread is that the German treasury also seems to have disappeared and rumour has it that it went to the south pole as well.

Mind you, there's other talk that hints that Nazi gold is what's being whistled out of France under the cover of the Rennes le Chateau, Priory of Sion stuff...but link to 'deepblacklies' which talked about this has evapourated in the last couple of days.

Mysteriouser and mysteriouser...

[edit on 8-4-2007 by JohnnyCanuck]

Originally posted by zorgon

Still not convinced? Look thru a radiator thats putting out heat waves [also electromagnetic radiation] and see the distortion behind it... Look at a heat mirage on any roadway in summer where the road is sheilded by a watery looking surface. The road is there, but you can't see it... only water appears to be water..

Same principle applies. If the feild is good enough. you could bend light waves from behind the craft... around the craft with would make the craft vanish to the viewer.

Uh, no. You're not "seeing heat waves" in the case of the radiator, you're seeing a change in the refractive index of the air, since the heat has changed its density relative to the air in the room.

Same sort of thing with the mirage...the "heat waves from the road" are not somehow making the road invisible, the air above the road has decreased in density due to heating from the asphalt, there is a fairly sharp boundary of cooler air above it, and the boundary causes you to see a reflection of the sky.

Thanks.

The UFO battle caught on film by the Russians.

Admiral Byrd expedition to Antarctic is shown on live footage from the time. The story is told by Russian Naval officers. There are several great segments showing the U Boats in Antarctic waters. the size of the fleet of Admiral Byrd and the planes on the deck of the aircraft carrier.Then they show film footage of the battle!!! The planes being shot down... and the UFO's... One disk flies swiftly between the camera and the smoke stack of the ship... then they capture one slowly crossing the entire scene...

The secret report by Admiral Byrd to Secretary of the Navy Forrestal,
has it been declassified yet?

Guess not if we need this Russian film.

Here is just the hot stuff, I hear Forrestal mentioned:




The media always asked Forrestal about putting aliens in his memoirs like they knew what he couldn't talk about.
So the US got Von Braun to make our own in New Mexico in time for the Korean war. Looks like weapons were on board the saucer aether craft by the time Adm. Byrd got to Antarctica. That opened a can of wupass and we been towing the line ever since. Yeah you can say 911.

Hi,

This video The Legend of Atlantis also talks about Antarctica and Byrd and is in English, others parts in Google Video.

The Legend of Atlantis (part 5)

Google Video Link

brotherthebig.

Russian translation


Hi,

MastaG is working on the translation or summary of the 2 Russian videos about Operation High Jump, thank you! Any more ATS Russian Members could help MastaG?

To help with your slow modem here you have 2 tools to download the videos for offline analysis:
. downthisvideo.com... - to download videos from YouTube and GoogleVideo
. www.freedownloadmanager.org... - a good free download manager

Google has also a translation tool here www.google.com... .

Hope this will help you.

brotherthebig.

[edit on 7-5-2007 by brotherthebig]

I think the Russians will be more matter of fact than the mystic dis information given in the Legend of Atlantis 5 1 hr 12 min 21 sec - May 14, 2006,
didn't see it yet but hope to soon.

I have some info or dis info about saucer technology and Tesla.
What I found in Tesla's notes:
What determines the rigidity of a body? It must be the speed and the amount of moving matter. In a gas the speed may be considerable, but the density is exceedingly small; in a liquid the speed would be likely to be small, though the density may be considerable; and in both cases the inertia resistance offered to displacement is practically nil. But place a gaseous (or liquid) column in an intense, rapidly alternating electrostatic field, set the particles vibrating with enormous speeds, then the inertia resistance asserts itself.
Tesla's Notes

According to a theory of electrical workings for UFOs this would mean that
air is made rigid for the craft to move in.

Now more in the conspiracy of Operation Paper Clip that predates the
Operation High Jump but perhaps is a main cause, that are Tesla
being ripped off by his accountant, perhaps selling rigidity secrets to
Germany in time for the end of WWII, the saucers, the Paper Clip, the
High Jump and cannons in the saucers to mess up Adm. Byrd.

Hold you hats on this one.

Thanks for the good vids, have some good reads.

This Mr. Hurtau, in this series of youtube videos, he covers the Antartic mission in one of the sections.

See #6 of the series.



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