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Originally posted by Regenmacher
"Some here" is a generalization, if you feel that statement is a threat to your ego, then it's up to you to figure out why that is.
originally posted by Waiting2awake
There are many ethnic people that simply do not even attempt to fit in, and I agree with what you are saying about "those" ones. However, this clearly ignores the largest percentage that do try to fit in, and do fit in, and still get treated like a second class citizens. You are right though, off topic, but IMO a bigger worry.
What he did was warn a group of nations not to support a zionist regime that is historically every bit as ruthless and terroristic than anything mentioned in the axis of evil speach.
BTW, judging by recent American battles - I'd say taking away air power(Which the US clearly has on anyone probably) it's a far fight. Judging by the way some rag tag militia and a few trained officers are holding their own against the Americans in Iraq, I'd say it is a good thing that air power is there.
Originally posted by grover
Despite arm chair warriors like freedom who has a war-on and is all excited and foaming at the mouth...to attack Iran would be the height of stupidity, would drag in at least the Chinese and confirm in every Muslim's mind that we are out to destroy their culture and religion, true or not.
Originally posted by Freedom_for_sum
we'd all likely be speaking German and shouting Hiel Hitler toady
Godwin's Law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
There is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically "lost" whatever debate was in progress.
Originally posted by Regenmacher
Maybe you better read it again and show us were anyone said we should not defend allies?
Originally by Freedom_for_sum
It is my sincere hope that the nutjob in Iran makes an aggressive move on anyone in Europe. We, along with most of Europe, would then be abliged to anihilate that country. Freedom_for_sum
Originally posted by grover
Stop being such a fool sum...if Iran actually attacks somebody, that is one thing...to want them to do something just so we can attack them is response is ignorant and stupid.
Originally posted by grover
You weren't anticipating jack...you were gleefully looking forward to it. Talk about unseemly. To hope, which is what you did, for war is vulgar at best and at its heart, ignorant.
Originally posted by jsobecky
Some people treat others as second-class citizens. The problem is, there is a theme here that says that they belong to a particular political party, which is grossly untrue.
Originally posted by jsobecky
He has the "right" to warn other nations because of the notion of free speech, but it is pure arrogance to suggest that he will determine who they can and will support. When the USA says something similar, we are quickly accused of being imperious.
Originally posted by jsobecky
I don't see any difference between Iran's statement and Bush's statement that "You're either with us or against us."
Originally posted by jsobecky
BTW, judging by recent American battles - I'd say taking away air power(Which the US clearly has on anyone probably) it's a far fight. Judging by the way some rag tag militia and a few trained officers are holding their own against the Americans in Iraq, I'd say it is a good thing that air power is there.
You forget to mention that the Americans are subjected to a higher standard than the terrorists. Untie the hand that is tied behind their back and see what happens. Better yet, have the terrorists play by the same rules as we do, including wearing identifiable uniforms and not hiding among civilians.
Originally posted by Freedom_for_sum
So what's your problem Regenmacher?
Originally posted by grover
If we either attack Iran unprovoked or diliberately provoke them into attacking us so we can reltilate...we prove once and for all that we are not the world's number one superpower, but its number one stupid power.
Originally posted by Regenmacher
Some will have us believe if we bomb and kill the Iranians like dumb animals, the remaining Persians will magically bow down, start kissing Ronald McDonald's feet, and welcome an Iraq style corporate plundering. Meanwhile, Russia and China will sit on the sidelines and sing Kumbaya as their lucrative contracts go poof.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Israel -Wiki
Juan Cole, a University of Michigan Professor of Modern Middle East and South Asian History, translates the Persian phrase as:
The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad).[8]
According to Cole, "Ahmadinejad did not say he was going to wipe Israel off the map because no such idiom exists in Persian" and "He did say he hoped its regime, i.e., a Jewish-Zionist state occupying Jerusalem, would collapse."
Originally posted by Freedom_for_sum
Originally posted by grover
You weren't anticipating jack...you were gleefully looking forward to it. Talk about unseemly. To hope, which is what you did, for war is vulgar at best and at its heart, ignorant.
From dictionary.com:
Anticipate:
1. to realize beforehand; foretaste or foresee: to anticipate pleasure.
2. to expect; look forward to; be sure of: to anticipate a favorable decision.
You seem to have some problems with written communication.
Gleefully? Maybe in the same way a police officer enjoys his job of removing criminals off the street; I, as a member of the military, enjoy my job and look forward to doing my part to remove insects like Kim jung Ill and Ahmadinejad to make the world a better place and ensure that your freedom to spout your vitriolic lib-speak remains intact. You wouldn't have that freedom in an Islamic society.