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Originally posted by minimi
Here is a quote from the book 'Future Fighters' by Bll Gunston, Salamander Books, 1984, ISBN 0 86101 163 5
"Lockheed F-19?
Not illustrated because it is highly classified (as most of the 'Skunk Works' projects are in their early years), this fighter is a stealth technology design with 'near-zero' optical, radar and IR signatures. A number, looking rather like a Shuttle Orbiter in plan and powered by two 12,000 lb (5443kg) engines, are said to have flown since 1977. The designation is a mere guess, since official DoD numbers jmped from 18 to 20. Questioned on a recent crash, a DoD spokesman said " I can tell you it wasn't an F-19." "
This would appear to contradict other information I have read F-19 info
Other Info
Originally posted by Shadowhawk
Classified aircraft have received anomalous "F" (usually "YF") designations even when the aircraft were not fighter planes (i.e. YF-117D TACIT BLUE). Until recently, these were always three-digit designators (such as YF-117A and YF-113G). In the late 1990s, however, a classified prototype was flown as the YF-24.
Originally posted by waynos
What about the RAF and their 'Desert Pink' camouflage applied to everything that flew in the Gulf War?
Everyone knows the RAF are the best, most macho real men pilots there are
[edit on 26-10-2005 by waynos]
Originally posted by Shadowhawk
A-12 was a Lockheed designation that was never part of thge official MDS designation system. The "A" stood for Archangel, Kelly Johnson's name for the successor to his earlier Angel (U-2).
Originally posted by Shadowhawk
Yes, the CIA did use Kelly Johnson's A-12 designation. It doesn't change the fact that it was never part of the DoD Mission/Design/Series (MDS) designation system in which the letter "A" stands for "Attack."
If you read Johnson's personal logs (or any decent history of the Lockheed Skunk Works) you will find the origin of the Archangel name and his designs for the new recon aircraft (designated by him as A-1 through A-12).
The AF-12 was originally intentionally misidentified as the A-11 when the program was surfaced, but became the YF-12A to conform to the MDS system. The Q-12 became the D-21 and the M-12 became the M-21. The R-12 became the RS-71 and then the SR-71. It's enough to drive a historian mad.
Originally posted by ghost
What if the F-19 really is a Northrop Project and had nothing to do with Lockheed? Think about it, if they had two simular projects but for slightly different missions going at the same time. Maybe small peices of each leaked out and we put the info together wrong. If my estiments are correct, the F-19 and the F-117 might be close to the same age. If the F-19 is still classified, they might have used the F-117 to cover it!
Maybe it''s time to do some research!
Tim
Its probably fake like but i heard from the video game it has a vulcan gun and it can land on carriers!!!!!!!!!! well that was the so called lockheed F-19 that starred in it.
Originally posted by ghost
What if the F-19 really is a Northrop Project and had nothing to do with Lockheed? Think about it, if they had two simular projects but for slightly different missions going at the same time. Maybe small peices of each leaked out and we put the info together wrong. If my estiments are correct, the F-19 and the F-117 might be close to the same age. If the F-19 is still classified, they might have used the F-117 to cover it!
Maybe it''s time to do some research!
Tim
Originally posted by matej
I wrote many times that F-19 is only aviation fans made mystery, but lets play this game....
Interesting idea but I found some difficulties. Firstly - is it good to cover top secret plane by another top secret plane? When you said that they should be the same era, it means, that both F-117 and F-19 needed to have independent cover. And because people usually do not know nothing about really top secret planes before they went public, how can be one secret plane covered by another?
Secondly - last time I collected much of information from Northrop including Senior Citizen SOV, ATA proposal, Switchblade proposal and many more. There is absolutely nothing about any F-19 or similar plane.
Thirdly - think about purpose of this plane. If it really exist, do USAF need it? For what missions?
Originally posted by MarkLuitzen
I found a model kit in a toystore magezin. with says lockheed F-19 stealth fighter. What about this plane does it really exist or is doesn't it. Need some info on this plane and specifics.