Tactical Nuke Explodes in Iraq??

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At precisely three minutes, fifty-six seconds (3:56) into the video clip, the tactical nuclear explosion appears to happen. It can't be missed and there's no mistaking what it is.
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[edit on 18-10-2006 by kinglizard]

First thing I thought; was that one of ours going off or not. I seem to recall in recent reading that there is alot that needs to be done for a nuke to actually go off. Wow, I just remembered watching this take place on the news but they didn't actually show the nuke footage....hmm

CSIDE

holy crap! that sure was bright!

I doubt the US would nuke anyone though, there's no point. They probably just hit a munitions bunker.

I saw a thing on the Science Channel I think (some edu channel), and it was about a plant that makes hydrogen for the space shuttle. It caught on fire and an explosion so immense happened that it knocked out windows for miles, and knocked everyone on there asses for miles, including tipping over cars and pulverizing nearby houses. And a mushroom cloud rose above the plant.

So that kinda power doesn't come from just nukes. Sure did look like one though.

I dunno what to say other than that.

Absolutely NOTHING about any detonation accidental or otherwise from the region.

I did say it would go to Heck over there within four months didn't I...

If it is a smaller nuke...wow. Anyone else have an opinion...I have no expertise in the matter of bombs...looked like a typical nuke as far as I can tell...

Hope this bumps it enough to get more insight

Well Arcane Demesne, that just reminded me of the Pepcon explosion here in Nevada, Las Vegas area. It had a mushroom cloud and the explosion was felt and seen for miles. Pepcon was a manufacture of specilal jet/rocket fuel out here. It could have been alot of TNT that was in the armory as well.

Here's that footage I was talking about. It says Nitro Glycerin, I thought I remembered Hydrogen, oh well.

youtube.com...

That's not a nuke, just a factory. So The explosion in IRAQ could have just been a fuel factory (or gas station) that was bombed, or anything like that. Or it could have been a nuke, either way.

Edit: Exactly Cside702. That's what I think it was anyhow. There'd be no reason to nuke a place while our soldiers are still on the ground.

[edit on 10/18/2006 by Arcane Demesne]

Yeah thats the one, here is another place to see it from our local news.
www.reviewjournal.com...

This site has a video as well.

It seemed they were using a very sensitive night capable camera and it just made the brightness appear much stronger then what it really was. It was an Ammo dump that was on fire right?


Pie

Pretty unlikely that it was a nuke. Perhaps enough munitions went up at once to equate or even surpass the power of a small tactical nuke, but it's real easy to tell that it wasn't one.

Just watch the city lights closest to the detonation. They stay on the whole time. The EMP would have shut them down.

Whew!

Didn't know what to think when I saw it...thought maybe a munitions fire and maybe a forgotten or stray nuke went off... LOL...

It was darn bright huh? Likely the camera lens/film...

No it doesn't make sense to nuke when there are boots on the ground...

Whew again.

Originally posted by Cside702
Yeah thats the one, here is another place to see it from our local news.
www.reviewjournal.com...

This site has a video as well.

Yeah, that's the place. Man, that was intense...And I was only watching it on TV. I can't imagine what you guy's thought when you saw it, being so close to it and all.

I think it's perfectly possible that that is what happened in Iraq, except it wasn't a Pepcon.

Nope, I just downloaded the video and it most certainly isn't the explosion from Nevada.

Thats why I love the internet forums like ATS, you have people that see and hear what you dont have readily available to you all the time. Our local news just showed clips of the amory on fire but seemed to have edited out the big explosion. I understand that it would freak alot of people out to show it; ie. Mothers & fathers with sons and daughters over there right now.

CSIDE

[edit on 18-10-2006 by Cside702]

Have to agree with the majority here it wasn't a nuke. Here is another video that shows both a moab and I think they call it a b88 that was used in Nam that has a similar effect when it explodes

Video

It is the just before the MOAB goes off near the end

I think is is just propaganda passed on by that Islamic news station in support of radicals: "well now the americans have nukes here so the Iranians should have them too" is the point I think some want to make of this. The explosion was not that big, and the fact is this was a forward munition depot, with lots of artillery and tank munitions sitting around. The US army probably doesn't even have tactical nukes in the region, let alone keep them at a forward munition base in a hot zone where it could be accidently detinated, or, worse yet, stolen by insurgents. If a situation called for a nuclear retaliation, there is enogh warships in the region with nuclear armed cruise missiles. It doesn't take much to make a mushroom cloud even a garbage bag full of oxygen and acetylene, heavy on acetylene, can produce mushroom clouds from my experience, anyway. All it takes is for a fuel to keep burning while being forced up by the explosion and rising heat. I believe its just the oxygen in the air buring in a nuclear explosion.

Hi,

Agreed, no Nuke. for one thing, even if there was a few Tactical shells in that dump--they would not have been armed--something done just before the shell is loaded and fired. They would have, therefore, been missing at least one of the spherical conventional explosive segments ( the Trigger) required for creating a hypercritical mass that causes Fission. Tactical weapons are fision devices, and not "thermonuclear" devices. What you get when a Tactical Nuke "cooks off" is a coventional explosion equal to the amount of casement explosives that suround the "pit"--and a lot of highly radioactive debris. 10 or 15K POUNDS of C-4--RDX--Destex -- or even Amonium Nitrate will cause an equal blast.

Another thing that is a factor in the overall brightness of the flash you see in the video is that it was shot at night using a Low Lux camera. A lot of the flash is due to optical overload to the camera itself, and not the actual explosion.

I have serious doubts that we have any Tactical Nukes actually on the ground in Iraq. To have them in-country would be an incredibly stupid move, as it would give terrorists a sterling opportunity to have it ALL in a neat little 155mm package.

This, imo, appears to be nothing more than a sensationalist’s attempt in creating “news”.

There is absolutely no reason to store or house TNW’s in an urban ammo dump (or any ammo dump in Iraq for that matter) with the more than nuclear capable US navy and US navy air wings just off shore.

Also, the nuclear components (capsules) are not stored in the TNW when warehoused which is one among the many safety protocols in place.

mg

The ammo dump attack took place at night. Here's the video of it, pretty amazing... (that someone submitted it to Google and it's still there)

US Army AMMO DUMP ATTACK with secondarys
video.google.com...
"THis is a good quality home video from the troops over iraq. The explosions are defening as the ammo dump burns up and bombs start going off with the intense heat. The Fight For Democracy is worth the kaos."

(check the date, Jan. 15, 2006. I wonder why it says that though if this happened just last week?)

Daylight pics here:
A Major American Ammo Dump Explodes - Not a Peep Out of the Press
www.rense.com/general73/falcphotos.htm

News here:
www.foxnews.com...

news.yahoo.com...

Amazing stuff, cheers for the links guys.

That was not a tactical nuke cooking off. The explosion was too big. The flash of the explosion was probably exaggerated by the light gathering capability of the camera's lens. Granted that was a pretty good size blast. In order to have a nuclear detonation, many things have to happen in the correct sequence. A nuclear weapon can have it's conventional explosives detonate without creating a nuclear blast. In the 60's, a B-52 collided with a tanker near Spain. The B-52 was carrying several hydrogen bombs. One of these bombs hit the ground near Palmeras and it's conventional explosives detonated. All that happened was a small crater in the ground and some radioactive debris. It may suprise you to find out that the surest way to DISARM a nuclear bomb is to blow it up.