The World's Most Accessible Nuclear Facility

Dirty bombs are definatly a terror weapon... made up by the mass-media/administration to cause fear in the population (thus making them easier to control):

The term dirty bomb is primarily used to refer to a Radiological Dispersal Device (RDD), a radiological weapon which combines radioactive material with conventional explosives. Though an RDD is designed to disperse radioactive material over a large area, the conventional explosive would likely have more immediate lethal effect than the radioactive material. At levels created from most probable sources, not enough radiation would be present to cause severe illness or death. A test explosion and subsequent calculations done by the United States Department of Energy found that assuming nothing is done to clean up the affected area and everyone stays in the affected area for 1 year, the radiation exposure would be "fairly high". However, recent analysis of the Chernobyl fallout seems to show that many people in the surrounding area (although not those in close proximity) were hardly affected.

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Dirty bombs are not a serious threat, but were made out to be catastrophic weapons of mass destruction by FOX, CNN, etc at a time when the Bush administration needed the population to be as scared as possible.

Just to back up what others have said a "suitcase nuke" is so unlikely as to be pretty much ruled out.

Even if such things were actually made by the USSR, they would have had be constantly maintained to just keep them viable due to the natural breakdown of the fissile material. Unless the Russians still have some from the Soviet-era, have been maintaining them all this time, and just gave one to North Korea within like a year ago, I think it's impossible.

Of course old units could still be sold to terrorists for use in dirty bombs.

Henri Paul was the driver of Diana's car when she died. It turns out Henri was involved in some dirty business. MI6 have discovered that Henri Paul was acting as a broker between Mogilevich�s gang and Arab arms dealers for two years. Mossad tried to recruit Henry Paul in Paris, and he was apparently fearing for his life on the night of the fatal car crash.

djohnsto77
Suitcase nukes are very rare and it's questionable are there any operational examples left, there were, i'm sure about that... seen some old 80's intel reports on them

How about a 152mm nuclear artillery shell? It's a very compact weapon, does anyone have any info how long those can be maintained?

The "Bad Guy of the Week" is apparently Mogilevich. I thought he was still living in Budapest, but according to this he now lives in Moscow.

Bad Guy of the Week: Semion Mogilevich

January 03, 2007


the latest on Mogilevich suggests he and his pals may be bigger than ever.

Now 60, Mogilevich is under scrutiny (free preview available) by the U.S. Justice Department for his role in billion-dollar natural gas deals involving Russia and Ukraine, law enforcement officials confirm. His involvement is raising alarm among Russia watchers here in Washington, already worried over Moscow's growing use of energy as a political weapon against gas-hungry Europe and former Soviet states. Even putting the political stakes aside, the prospect of "the world's most dangerous mobster" reaping windfalls in the energy biz is worrisome at best.

After being targeted by an FBI task force, the reputed mob boss fled Budapest for Moscow, where he's lived comfortably for years–and where Russian officials show no interest in handing him over.

Just thought I'd point out that it's not really that hard to make a nuclear bomb. I asked my physics teacher about this years ago and he said you could pretty much destroy London with a plutonium/uranium lump the size of a tennis ball. The basic principle, he said, would be to split the lump in half (actually you would need to lumps where the combined mass is enough to go critical) and place the parst in opposite ends of a tube with conventional explosives behind them. When the explosives are set off, the two lumps fuse and reach critical mass.... Hey presto, London is gone, and Bob's your uncle...

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The bomb I just described would be a "gun-type assembly"... Drawings for this kind of bombs are widely available online...

Regarding the North Korean nuclear test.

Russia are going to write off 80% of some 8 billion dollars owed by North Korea. I wonder if any suitcase nukes might be included in this deal? Maybe Kim has to return them (sell them back) to Russia? Or maybe the Russians are just being nice to them? And (pretend to) stop the North Korean "nuclear programme" in the process?

Originally posted by djohnsto77

"suitcase nuke"

they would have had be constantly maintained to just keep them viable due to the natural breakdown of the fissile material.

Why would they have to maintain them constantly? Wouldn't it be possible (and cheaper) to just add the polonium later, when they needed to use them?

I've heard rumours that the polonium which killed Litvinenko was meant to be used to arm some suitcase nuke(s) in the UK. Maybe to be used as a terror weapon. I hope this is not true, of course...

There seems to be a very high risk of a nuclear terror attack by Al Qaeda in the US. FBI Director Robert Mueller said that the threat is so real he lies awake at night thinking about it. They are worried by possible simultaneous attacks on 7-10 US cities. Mogilevich has sold nukes from the former Soviet Union to Bin Laden.


Chertoff's ‘Gut Feeling' Could Be a Nuclear Detonation


Suitcase nuke + Polonium = Armed suitcase nuke...

According to Richard Marcinko who claims to have handled suitcase nukes on a few occasions has described them being about 40LBs can fit in a backpack look like (the older ones) a thick baseball bat sized rod about 18 inches long. on one side is the warhead which looks like a stack of weights. On the other end is something about the size of an oil filter that I guess holds the detonator. they need to be assembled on sight but that it only takes a few seconds to do that. He says that the things were strong enough to take out major highway interchanges or level a block or so.

It's coming from Richard Marcinko (good or bad) so for what it's worth.

Originally posted by BASSPLYR

It's coming from Richard Marcinko (good or bad) so for what it's worth.

Thanks, that was very interesting.


Richard Marcinko - Wikipedia

Yeah the guy talked about how he infiltrated a nuclear weapons facility with his team on the east coast by simply walking in using the rail road track that went ungaurded with no fencing right through the middle of the base.

Snuck onto nuclear missile subs by either stealing at the local hangout bar the night before a drunk tech worker's ID card for the docking facility, walked right in holding his thumb over the picture and flashed the ID. he said if anybody challenged him he told them that he worked for general electric or any one of the other contractor companies that worked on the subs. It worked he got everything he needed from the inside of the sub to make the CO of the base look like an idiot.

"Blew Up" Air Force One in a mock terrorist assult at Point Magu, outwitting the Naval Police, Local Police, Feds, The Secret Service, Renta Cops, various other base security, and the local fire department. Even snuck in a Mock terrorist on Camp David 3 LBs of C4 within 15 feet of President Ronald Regan personal cabin there.

Says that decades later the security at just about every base including the nuclear ones are every bit just as vulnerable as it was when he tested it. Including the exact same faults he found way back in the day. He thinks our homeland security really sucks.

Al Qaeda Expert: Bin Laden Has Suitcase Nukes

Just in:

A Pakistani journalist, Hamid Mir, who is said to be one of the world's top experts on Al Qaeda, has held an exclusive interview with norwegian media TV2. He has met Bin Laden personally on several occasions. He said that Bin Laden has suitcase nukes and is planning on using them in the US and/or Europe within 2 years. He said Bin Laden bought these on the black market in the former Sovjet Union.


Source:
Bin Laden har bærbare atombomber (in Norwegian...sorry

Thanks Hellmutt

Here is a (poor) english translation of Hellmutts link in the post above.

Mr. Mir has been saying that OSB has nukes and chemical weapons since at least 2001.

Ah, here it is. I thought I remembered reading a very in-depth interview with him. Al-Qaeda's Hidden Arsenal and Sponsors: Interview with Hamid Mir



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Apparently we hid secret caches of portable nukes all through out eastern europe. Our plan was to have some SF guys from unknown departments or detachments live simple alter ego lives in the respective country where the US hid one of their secret caches, and in the event of WW3 or a Warsaw invasion of nato territory, blow up the nukes.

the plan was to let the first invasion force come through into eastern europe from the then USSR. once they got through blow the nukes to destroy the chosen highways interchanges bridges etc so that they would be cut off from the main force. NATO allies could then surround the initial invasion force and take them out while cutting off the USSR from invading anything any further than that point.

I'm explaining this quick so hopefully it makes sense if not I'll reexplain. But basically we still have those caches. the ussr had a similar strategy and have similar hidden caches. according to some , a few of those caches have been found raided and portable nukes have shown up missing. where they are now and who took them is another issue all together.

If Aleksandr Lebed was right, there might be more than 100 Russian suitcase nukes on the loose. These nukes were originally ordered by the KGB, are now allegedly missing and probably for sale on the black market. Al Qaeda no.2, Zawahiri, said that such devices can be bought on the black market by anyone with $10 million. For some reason, I believe him. And consider this: Litvinenko's assassination with Polonium might have been a clear message to those who know, that such portable nuke devices might have been armed with Polonium and are now ready for use, if they are to blackmail someone. Otherwise, no such message or warnings would be given. The blackmail could i.e. be something like: "Pull your troops out of Iraq, or we'll blow up a couple of suitcase nukes in your city!". They might have already tested and verified that these devices work, in North Korea. It's amazing what some people (like Mogilevich) would do for money. Do such people expect to live forever or something? What's the point having unlimited amounts of money on your bank account if/when you're dead? Nobody lives forever. I can't see the point of having more money than you can spend in a lifetime. But what do I know? Nothing at all. Just connecting the dots and speculate. I hope I'm wrong.

Lebed And The Missing Nukes


At the beginning of this video, you can see and hear Lebed telling about the more than 100 missing suitcase nukes from Transnistria.

This is a bit interesting. From October 10, last year. It was apparently sub-kilotonne explosion(s). And as we now know, it was indeed nuclear...


US detects second N Korea 'blast'



And Russia's defence minister tried to make us believe that it was a bigger explosion.

Russia: Nuke Test Greater Than Reported


550 tons of TNT... And check out this post regarding the foiled terror attack in Germany. The terrorists had materials to put together a bomb "with an explosive power equal to 550-kilogrammes of TNT" and an attack appeared imminent...

The suitcase bombs have long since been accepted as being genuine.
Many Russian defectors who had access to them and had obvious knowkedge due to their command positions verified it.
Whats remained unclear is whether they would still be useable (which most observers thought not ) and exactly who had them.
I remember this subject being discussed here quite deeply about 3 years ago but have been unable to find the thread.
Since then of course more information has come to light and more people have confirmed their existence.
Moscow has continued not to get drawn into discussions about them and even claim they were never made.....but they are hardly likely to admit that they had them and now they dont know where they are.
Just the same as they claim their Yam evil mountain projects are a figment of everyones immagination.
Their possible reason for remaining their calm is maybe because they know exactly who has them and that they dont pose a threat to Russia.
These babies are destined for the West......just as they were originally designed for back in the old days.

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Exactly! These devices do exist. And it's of course an advanced and intelligent design, so why make the stupid mistake of making a device that'll be useless within a few months? Better design them so they can be armed on demand, like adding the trigger (Po-210/Polonium) whenever you want to use them. They claimed that Polonium was so hard to get. Litvinenko was killed by Po-210...