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Originally posted by delldesktop5566
The Photon belt is a band of light which the earth pases through every 11,000 years.Every being on this planet is changing at the moleculer level.Yes,your dna is changing as is does every 11,000 years. im not going to ramble on.. but do your own reasearch on "the photon belt".In the year 2012the photon belt will it us at fullforce.NASA reasearcher know of this its even on their website but they state that they really do not know the outcome of this bandof energy.I would like to know others thoughts on this issue!
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
www.geocities.com...
or simply google search "photon belt"
life seems to be becoming more surreal every day,dreamlike almost.
Originally posted by delldesktop5566
the photon belt hitting us is not a gradual thing,it will happen withi the blink of an eye.2012 has not hit yet-
Originally posted by denythestatusquo
Is it possible that our controllers also play with our timeline? Maybe the date isn't what you think it is and 2012 is valid but they keep moving the starting gate.
Actually, there are theories that there has been some manipulation of the timeline. I don't know if your a believer in the bible code thing,I personally think the jury is still out on that, but there is supposed to be a nuclear war this year. Now,if the powers that be have manipulated the timeline for that "holocaust," then it also stands to reason that they would manipulate it in regards to 2012. After all, 2012 marks the fall of the present world system; the powers that be would certainly want to delay that for as long as they could.
Originally posted by etshrtslr
I can see possibility of the timeline being manipulated on earth.....however if 2012 is about the earth moving into the photon belt which is far out in the galaxy I fail to recognize how the timeline could be manipulated......that would imply the orbit of the solar system would have to be either slowed down or speeded up....but then again given the discussion on the other thread that all matter is just a creation of the mind so given that anything is possible
Of course, any acceptance of the digital theory of the universe throws "free will" directly out the window because it implies that we don't do what we want to, but what we have been programmed to do.
Originally posted by etshrtslr
Anytime you take freewill out of the equation I get uncomfortable with the notion. With that being said and I do belive that on this plain of existance we could have limited freewill and on a higher plain or our spiritual selfs outside of these bodies have total freewill.
Well,to be honest, I am not really a big believer in "free will". I will tell you why. I can not think of a circumstance where one can do whatever he/she really wants to do. Too many of our decisions hinge on circumstance for there to really be a such of a thing as "free will". That has been my take for quite some time now. Now I am not implying that we are mindless robots roaming around,I'm just saying our choices are too limited for "free will" to really be much of a factor.
Originally posted by etshrtslr
I believe you and I both believe in reincarnation.....As I was trying to express in my previous post I believe the true freewill comes from our our spirit in its plain or more correctly density or vibration of existance... our trueselves.
When we reincarnate freewill here on this density is limited or nonexistant simpily because we decided in the higher density before we reincarnated what this experience was going to be.
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Well,to be honest, I am not really a big believer in "free will". I will tell you why. I can not think of a circumstance where one can do whatever he/she really wants to do. Too many of our decisions hinge on circumstance for there to really be a such of a thing as "free will". That has been my take for quite some time now. Now I am not implying that we are mindless robots roaming around,I'm just saying our choices are too limited for "free will" to really be much of a factor.
[edit on 11-10-2006 by SpeakerofTruth]
Originally posted by denythestatusquo
I see you are a follower of Christ.
True. However, doesn't it seem to make sense that we make our decisions over there because of the way the universe is actually designed?
Originally posted by etshrtslr
I agree we do make our decisions over there....could you please elaborate on how the design of the universe necessitates us making our decision over there? I think the over there is the real there and where we are at now is the illusional there we created from the real there....make sense?
It makes perfect sense. Let's say physicality is illusion,as I suspect it by and large to be. Now, in order for one to operate in this illusion that we participate in, there are certain guidelines. One of the guidelines is that the decisionss granted to us have already been determined before we were even born.
Originally posted by etshrtslr
to many indigenous socities have had similar beliefs going back 1000's of years about somthing happening on or about 2012.