ever heard of ORMUS? you will want to have...

I'll post this link again. Check out some of the works listed, I have. Ormus Research

Yeah...just looked at those and fail to see any reference to "ormus". I see some interesting studies from the past two decades regarding radioactivity, superdeformation, etc., but nothing related to the healing powers of "superconducting particles" in my water.

Please post some sources, for real.

Originally posted by Uplifted

Now that I've been enlightened on this, I can at least sleep well in knowing that I learned something today. Thank you Uplifted, I had forgotten that little bit. I truly thank you.

Wow. Totally didn't mean to offend you.

You misunderstand Uplifted. I AM truly thankful for being corrected on that. It's not often that I find myself being wrong. So when I am, I'm willing to take that hit to learn something new, or in this case to relearn something I'd forgotten. I am genuinely glad that you informed me of it. There was no offense taken from your statement. As a matter of fact, I thought it was eloquently put.

TheBorg

So there have been no medical studies on Ormus, it said on the first post that todays food has been manufactured to have a very low if not any ormus in it...if this is so then how come they now that there are small amounts of ormus in food if they haven't done any studies.

Well, to be fair here, we've yet to get any significant evidence to even suggest that any such elements exist, let alone whether they are good for us or not. I'm guessing that the jury's still out on this one.

TheBorg

just checked out www.whitepowdergoldreviews.com . good stuff.

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HI Lorcan,

How are you doing? Do you still use Ormus ? I'm planning on doing so but find it hard to find the "correct"one.

Could you, or somebody give me advice on what ORMUS is good and safe?

Greets,
Chris (holland)

Originally posted by Uplifted

Originally posted by bigsage
The ORMUS materials may be the substances which have been called manna, shewbread, chi, prana, the Philosopher's Stone, shemanna and the Fountain of Youth.

Chi is actually orgone energy.

Orgone

Orgone energy is actually chi

Ch'i

I saw Byrd posting on the previous page about how she didn't see where they explain this new state of matter, or why no one else has discovered it, etc., as if this information isn't available.

The information is out there and I have actually read it. Whether or not to believe the experimental data is your choice because of the controversy but I personally find nothing outrageous about it. The "new state" they are talking about is a state for metals in which they have characteristics of noble gases in that the electron energy required to form a bond is too great (noble gases actually have their outermost valences filled with electrons) and the individual atoms are essentially inert and do not bond to one another. The noble gases are also known as inert because of their filled outer valences and thus their inability to bond.

Atoms of metals have only traditionally been examined that are bonded (many atoms). It has been explained that the equipment traditionally use to test for the presence of metals tests for them by testing the bonding between atoms (the number of bonds determines the kind of atom). This is how the machines are electronically built. So trying to detect individual metal atoms in an inert state is automatically out of the question with these devices; they effectively are nothing to the machine.

Ever wonder why gold is the revered metal? Jim Hayden, who re-discovered monatomic gold found it in black sun scorched land in Arizona. I remember something about egypt knows as the black land or something to that effect. Modern alchemist have admitted that thier purpose was not to turn metals to gold but to turn gold into its purest form, A white powder. I say mix the studies of monatomic gold with Cymatics and see what we get. 8)

Interestin indeed.. So where do I get my hands on some of this "Ormus"? without paying money for it.. If it is a part of organisms, gold, water and all.. Where do I begin?

If it repairs DNA and makes u feel good, i surely would want sum

GOLD CHLORIDE is not TOXIC

en.wikipedia.org...

It is rumored to be the Elixir of Life

Here are the lab results on lab mice that show it cures cancer without hurting the body.

www.wipo.int...

Gold Chloride is same manna in the bible.

The Elixir of Life is thought to be some kind of drink related to the key to immortality. Perhaps Alchemist were on to something. There has been some discussion about Gold being this manna to life. In reality it is true. I can not say how I found this website (my methods were not exactly legal. wb.) but here it is. It is public for now but the top of the page cites that it will be moved soon.


www.wipo.int...

FACT : Gold Chloride other wise known as auric chloride was thought and held to be harmful to the body and inorganic. When ingested:
Gold(I) chloride may be irritating to the skin and eyes, damage kidney function and reduce white blood cell counts. If touched, flush skin with soap and water for 15 minutes.

But I discovered this website that reveals the secret that gold chloride can be used to cure tumors and fight cancer in the body, effectively.
This invention relates generally to the field of using compositions comprising aurum muriaticum for ameliorating cancer. More specifically, the invention provides methods and compositions comprising auric chloride and/or hydrogen tetrachloroaurate for use in prevention and therapy of cancer, preventing the metastasis of cancer and arresting cell growth. In one aspect, the invention provides methods and compositions used to treat solid tumor cancers such as a carcinoma, melanoma, lymphoma, or sarcoma by administering an effective amount of compositions comprising auric chloride or hydrogen tetrachloroaurate.

In short, Gold Chloride is the Elixir of Life. The article goes on to explains:

[0062] In certain instances the gold(III) chloride compositions and methods of the invention may replace existing surgical procedures or drug therapies. In other instances the gold(III) chloride compositions are useful in improving the efficacy of existing therapies. Accordingly combination therapy may be used to treat the subjects. For example, the agent may be administered to a subject in combination with another anti-proliferative therapy. Suitable anti-cancer therapies include surgical procedures to remove the tumor mass, chemotherapy or localized radiation. There may also be a delay of several hours, days and in some instances weeks between the administration of the different treatments, such that the agent may be administered before or after the other treatment.

Apoptosis is a key path of cellular death for most cells in the human body. This mechanism is often dysfunctional in cancer cells. However, hydrogen tetrachloroaurate and auric chloride are capable of inducing apoptosis in malignant cells that would otherwise remain dysfunctional (lack of apoptosis).

The present invention discloses GoId(III) chloride formulations capable of inducing profound apoptosis in cancer cells. The invention relates to a pharmacological anticancer activity of the formulation that displays at least equivalent and/or superior apoptotic effects in comparison to major oncological drugs including methotrexate, cisplatin and doxorubicin. This breakthrough invention enables a novel class of anti-cancer drugs that should clinically elicit low to very low toxicity in normal cells while actively inducing apoptosis in cancer cells.

I will simply that above. Gold Chloride sparks apoptosis in cancer cells. I will simplify that further. Gold Chloride destroys cancer cells.

Even if one is not well versed in chemistry, anyone can use control F and search to find what i point out. But read the article from the start, it explains the history of Gold Chloride and how it was discovered and used in past civilizations for medicine and how it was used for cures for TB, In some cases the disease can be permanently cured, in others it is at least possible to reduce the size of the tumor, thus extending the patient's lifetime. It is even a cure for leukemia:


A bifunctional antitumor agent, Au(III)-streptonigrin complex, with gold in the trivalent state and having the ablity to inhibit glutathione reductase activity, has been shown to exhibit antitumor activity against leukemia. (Moustatih A. et al. J Med Chem. 1989 Jul;32(7): 1426-1431). Anti-angiogenic properties of gold nanoparticles formed from tetrachloroauric acid have been reported.


The article continues to talk about possible human doses.
The dose of the inventive composition administered to an individual (such as human) will vary with the particular composition, the method of administration, and the particular disease being treated. The dose should be sufficient to effect a desirable response, such as a therapeutic or prophylactic response against a particular disease or condition. For example, the dosage of gold(III) chlorides administered can be about 1 to about 1000 mg/m2, about 1 to about 500 mg/m , about 1 to about 300 mg/m

Gold Chloride matches up with the biblical account of manna
Exodus 16:21
21 Each morning everyone gathered as much as they needed, and when the sun grew hot, it melted away.
The article matches the bible description and discusses how Gold Chloride should be kept:

[0178] Step 2: After grinding, the mix is called Gold Powder Stock Mix and it is placed in a capped bottle (dark ambar bottles or other glass light protective bottles should be used) that protects the product from the light, this precaution should be included in the rest of the procedures since the product is light sensitive.

Gold Chloride must stored away from light. Coincidence?

Also the method for making this matches the biblical description

[0184] Step 1 : 0.5g to 175g of GoId(III) Chloride (Gold Trichloride, Acid or Hydrogen tetrachloroaurate (HAuCl4) or Gold Trichloride or Auric Chloride (AuCl3)) are placed in a mortar grinder with 5g to 25Og of lactose granules. These two ingredients are then crushed and grinded together in such a form that a uniform and a finely homogenized powder is accomplished. The grinding period may range from 2 to 180 minutes. Proceed to step 2.
Lets see if that matches what Mosses did.

Exodus 32:30

Exo 32:20 And he took the calf which they had made, and burnt it in the fire, and ground it to powder, and strawed it upon the water, and made the children of Israel drink of it.

What? Mosses ground up gold and fed it to the Israelites?
The Hebrew word for ground or to grind is special and this verb is only used in referring to grinding of gold.


This article continues to explore the use of the Gold Chloride in tumors in lab mice
The mice are monitored over a 28-day period for signs of stress following drug administration,………………….The data show that a daily dosage of the gold(III) chloride compositions is not toxic.

I think this is coming a long way from saying that Gold Chloride is harmful,

The company is named Black Lion Pharmaceuticals

www.wipo.int...

The above link here and in the beginning is the link to the lab mice experiment and the information on Gold Chloride.

Here is the link to the company information and patent findings.

www.wipo.int... Desc&maxRec=9

THE VERY FACT THAT IT USED TO BE TOXIC TO YOU!!

AND NOW IT IS THE CURE FOR CANCER?
IS THIS NOT EPIC! or I think my english is terrific yes?

reply to post by xvxershadowx


I have something to add to the ORMUS discussion taking place here for the past 4 years. I tried ORMUS inadvertently via spring water and came home feeling more positive than I have been in a long time. After several WEEKS the feeling faded but I continued to search for the reason why I felt the way I did. I stumbled onto ORMUS subject accidentally 4 months later. I decided to try it and after 1 week I realized I felt just like I did after my trip to Hot Springs, AR. I did some research and discovered ORMUS is prevalent in spring water near large geological mineral deposits (like mount Manataka). ORMUS is not a placebo, I don't have cancer so I can't say it saved my life but it has resurrected my soul. I don't worry about who contrived 911 false flag any longer, my goal is to spread the good news God has graced us with in ORMUS and uplift the hearts of humanity. Positive vibration achieve positive results my friends. Don't let big PHARMA pacify you any longer with disease management. Get ORMUS into your diet and get your vibrancy back!

Namaste

TheBorg

Originally posted by Uplifted
I just sent an e-mail to an expert on ormus, Barry Carter, and I'll try to get some links backing up actual scientific research.

Please do that, because I'm just having a hard time believing any of this stuff is even realistically possible. In almost every case where Ormus elements are mentioned, some sort of extraction method is needed to get enough of them that they are beneficial. If they are elements that help us, we call those vitamins. Vitamins are an essential part of our health, as they allow our bodies to effectively fight illness, as well as keep our bodies fit.

To suggest that there is some mystical means to gain more from nature than is normally allowed requires more than just mere supposition and half-hearted personal experiences. If you want to get anyone else interested in these "Ormus elements", perhaps your best method of communicating would be to provide the burden of proof that we've all asked for, so that we may make an educated decision.

I just find it incredibly narrow-minded of anyone to just assume that we'll just believe anyone's word without proof. In the effort to "Deny Ignorance", I must seek the truth, whatever that may entail. I'm willing to admit that there MAY be some sort of elements out there that we know nothing about; hell, I'm willing to bet on it. What I'm not willing to bet on, however, is that there's a reason why I should be paying some shady character huge sums of money for something that they say will work. Their word means squat to me, as I don't know them, NOR do I know what they claim.

Please, see my skepticism for what it truly is, an unwillingness to blindly accept anything on face value. You want me to believe you? Prove what you claim.

TheBorg

You know, I'm sure a bottle of the stuff doesn't cost THAT much. If you're a scientist, why don't you just buy a bottle and do some tests on it, maybe even take a sip or two, and report back with your results. You could also test it out on plants as well. You could have a few control plants, a few on ormus, and see what the results are. I think you would be doing all of us a favor, and possibly end the debate once and for all.