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Originally posted by Wizard_In_The_Woods
I admire your self- confidence jfj123. But you’re so far from the truth it’s not even funny. I don’t want to bore other ATS readers with a ‘squabble’. You’ve stated your position and I’ve stated mine. So we’ll just leave it at that.
The advances in bunker buster penetration depth come from directional nuke technology. The device you’re describing has been around since World War II.
Greetings,
The Wizard In The Woods
Originally posted by Haroki
Were you aware that there were a few firefighters - in stairwells that are, coincidentally, in the cone of the directed nuke blast - that survived?
Originally posted by jfj123
reply to post by Griff
Except for the fact that the WTC's were not underground.
Originally posted by SteveR
reply to post by jfj123
Have you read the thread? There is seismic data here.
Originally posted by jfj123
The seismic report from Lamont-Doherty includes a number of graphs showing the seismic readings produced by the planes crashing into the two towers as well as the later collapse of the two buildings.
On the first graph, the 8- and 10-second collapses appear — misleadingly — as a pair of sudden spikes.
Originally posted by bsbray11
The conclusion that's led to is that the initial seismic data was not for the plane impacts (which presented a shear force onto the columns which could only reach the ground by oscillating downwards through the columns like a vibrating tuning fork
Originally posted by SlightlyAbovePar
This thread is an excellent example of how the "truth" movement operates.
Wild speculation, physics-defying explanations, a clear lack of context, and when all else fails.....(essentially) name calling. Oh, and ignoring rational, knowledgeable explanations.
I understand one of the points of ATS is to discuss possibilities. I am also of the opinion that discussion of topics that are (come on, honestly now) beyond the pail of anything approaching reality undermines that very goal. That goal being truth.
However, there has to come a time when we just shake our heads and move on. Hydrogen bombs? Holograms? Thousands upon thousands of people involved in a secret plot to destroy the World Trade Centers for oil/profit/war profiteering/?
Originally posted by Wizard_In_The_Woods
reply to post by SlightlyAbovePar
Beyond the pale, eh?
SlightlyAbovePar, the world will not conform to how “you want to see it”. And reality will not adapt to our leaders wishes either.
9-11 was not about profiteering — no matter how many ruthless creeps did indeed make loads of moohlah of the event. It was executed as part of an overall U.S. energy policy to secure the world’s last remaining petroleum reserves for our ‘strategic national interests’.
Here are the absolute facts about the 9-11 occurrences in NYC; three buildings, WTC-1, 2 and 7 were turned to powder. And WTC-6 was left with a giant cylindrical hole in the middle. Now we need to ask ourselves how did this happen? The easiest approach is to guesstimate the amount of energy required to do such a thing. Jim Hoffman conservatively calculated 14.4 million kWh would have been needed per tower. That’s the equivalent of 12,350 US tons of TNT — per tower.
The only device I can think of that can do this relatively quietly and invisibly, as in 85% more quiet and invisible than TNT, is a hydrogen bomb, triggered with antimatter. Antimatter gets produced daily at the CERN in Geneva so please don’t protest that this is a fantasy.