Next Attack Soon?:(

Meanwhile there is at least one country in the world which the US has plunged into a very real state of terror.

At least two you forgot Afghanistan. All the things that happens in Afghanistan, the REAL things, doesn't go to the medias. A little exemple... every day 700 childs and about 50 womens die because they lack of medical assistance. Another exemple... Karzai, worked at the RAND corporation a government propaganda agency, and in october 2001, he was brought in Afghanistan to join a few tribes against the Talibans to obtain the power later. Another exemple, in the ``congress`` a lot of talibans are there, some are mens of a chief on the FBI terrorist list. Ect... ect... From the people own words, the present ``government`` is worse than the Talibans! Mission Accomplished?

I would wish harm on no one why would you

Originally posted by rich23
I am getting so sick of these paranoid threads that I'm actually starting to hope that a real attack comes soon and wipes out some of the posters. It would actually give you something to bleat about.

The war on terror is a hoax and a fraud, and - of course - the war in Iraq is simply making matters worse. The people of Iraq have to face REAL terror every day, and all you lot can do is bleat aboout the next attack. Pathetic.

As i once said, it's better to contribute to a thread and prove them wrong, instead of merely visiting to voice your personal disbelief about it, saying that its an hoax and that it will never happen, just like all other predictions.

Lets just say, i'm sure you people didnt come here to provoke the believers, but it appears such things are easily accomplished. So why not come up with some articles?

Yeah i know, i've seen it all, Bible codes, rapture dates, cults, there's no end to it... And thats ATS, people.

Originally posted by Essedarius

Originally posted by behindthescenes
Wow...you should run for the next Pope. It amazes me that so many moral watchdogs on this system most likely live in just as much hypocrisy as the rest of us. Tell us to remove the splinter from our eye, yet the beam in yours is blinding, as one great prophet stated.

Clearly my sarcasm has led to a misunderstanding. Here is my point nice and clear:

Telling someone who is worried about something that they are a bleating jackass because they are afraid is absurd. Better yet, telling someone that their fear is DUMB because it is not as legitimate as someone else’s fear is senseless.

I am sorry Essedarius; the sarcasm, written out as it was, was misinterpreted by me. I apologize for my attack.

Originally posted by behindthescenes
I am sorry Essedarius; the sarcasm, written out as it was, was misinterpreted by me. I apologize for my attack.

No apology necessary, bts.
I was aggressively unclear, you called me on it.
I respect that.

Originally posted by rich23
That is a country where living in fear is actually rather reasonable. That someone on this board should attempt to brush this off is predictable but lame nonetheless.

If someone is concerned for their safety, why do you assume that they are automatically dismissing the tribulations of others?

I don't see anywhere on this thread where someone has said "Those wussies in Iraq think they have it bad, but if you want REAL terror you've got to come to North America." Not even close.

I would venture that there is not one single person living outside of the Middle East war zones that would want to trade their living situation with someone in that region. I feel for those people. My heart goes out to those people. I sympathize with their situation, but I can't empathize. And...you know what...I don't WANT to empathize.

I think it's cool that you can shrug off your bomb scare experience like that. You are way tougher than me, I guess. Some friends and I were escorted out of a London pub in 1992 so that a bomb could be removed from under one of the tables. Are you kidding, I practically soiled myself. Hell with that! I would never want to live like that day to day. Who would?

So don't get on people who are vigilant...even if you think that vigilance is silly...the bottom line is that they want to retain a safe and secure way of life. Their vigilance is a symptom of deep respect for the horrors that are going on elsewhere, not the other way around.

Actually, I didn't forget about Afghanistan. That's why I said "at least" one country - but the horrors visited on Iraq are probably more egregious.

And I make no claim for my own toughness. I was trying to explain why having some perspective on things can enable one to step away from one's own fear. Some fears are rational, some are not. Fear, for someone in Iraq, is entirely rational. Vigilance, for them, is very likely to make the difference between life and death. For the average American, this is not the case. And yet, sustained by a culture in which [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxxAIwU5htU&search=colbert%20jon%20stewart%20daily%20show%20geraldo%20oreilly%20fox%20news%20funny]fear-mongering[ /url] is prevalent, threads like this crop up endlessly on ATS.

The line between vigilance and paranoia is pretty thin, and I think a case can be made that what George Carlin would call the "owners" of the US want the populace walking that line 24/7. If you can apply critical thinking to what's going on around you you're less likely to be prey to that kind of generated fear.

Originally posted by rich23
The line between vigilance and paranoia is pretty thin, and I think a case can be made that what George Carlin would call the "owners" of the US want the populace walking that line 24/7. If you can apply critical thinking to what's going on around you you're less likely to be prey to that kind of generated fear.

Well stated, rich23.
People shouldn't dismiss their fear, but ask themselves what it is they are really afraid of...what is the source of their anxiety?

Much easier to digest than...

Originally posted by rich23
...all you lot can do is bleat aboout the next attack. Pathetic.

But then, I'm not really in a position to throw stones regarding clarity on this thread.

Cheers.

Anticipating an upcoming attack doesn't necessarily have to be about submitting to fear or paranoia. To some it is simply speculation based on observations regarding what can be described as hints, warnings, threats & 'chatter'.

Perhaps accurately predicting such events may actually help deter them by calling it, or maybe you alter your life slightly enough to avoid being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Perhaps such avoidance behaviour may even put you on a collision path with danger. Who's to say?

Whatever's coming up, I sure ain't expecting a sudden outbreak of peace anytime soon.

Originally posted by Essedarius

Originally posted by rich23
The line between vigilance and paranoia is pretty thin, and I think a case can be made that what George Carlin would call the "owners" of the US want the populace walking that line 24/7. If you can apply critical thinking to what's going on around you you're less likely to be prey to that kind of generated fear.

Well stated, rich23.
People shouldn't dismiss their fear, but ask themselves what it is they are really afraid of...what is the source of their anxiety?

Source of anxiety?!

How 'bout the fear of my skin bubbling and melting off my bones before I am incenerated to ash in a nuclear fire. Or worse -- being that's relatively quick -- sucking in a high dose of radiation and finding myself literally melting from the inside out over the course of days....

Why would the "terrorist's" stage an attack before the midterm elections?. This would not further the "terrorist's" cause,I cant imagine Osama sitting in his batcave cooking up some terrible deed to be commited before the election.An attack before an election would simply play into the american regime's hand's,.The american people will however get to see some of Osama's or some other high ranking "terrorist's" home movies. Saddam is to be convicted two days before the election! how convenient!.The "terror threat" will be raised to orange or polkadot or whatever.
If the "terrorist's" do strike before the election then who are the "terrorist's"?

Keltoi: The terrorists have never been Ben Laden nor Al-Qaeda. 9/11 was an inside job, 7/7 too. Look it up.

I have a feeling the pope may be assassinated, considering he is over in turkey at the moment.

It is ignorant to believe that a terror attack won't happen again in the US, it has happened before and it will happen again, fact. But we shouldn't really dwell over it.

Fact of the matter is, the whole thing started with Alex Jones' prediction, and the hordes of people, like him, who think the Government did 9/11. Not from those that really believe there are radical islamists waging jihad on the west.

[edit on 29-10-2006 by Peyres]

Originally posted by Vitchilo
Keltoi: The terrorists have never been Ben Laden nor Al-Qaeda. 9/11 was an inside job, 7/7 too. Look it up.

Duh, that was the point I was makeing.