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Originally posted by curme
So whether it's a Christian God, or an extremist Muslim man, any religion where death and eternal suffering is the consequence for not believing should be mocked and scorned. IMHO.
Originally posted by DJMessiah
Believe it or not, Muslims do not believe in eternal damnation. The Quran says that even those with an ounce of kindness and love in their heart will go to heaven, even if they're not Muslim, Christian, or Jewish.
Originally posted by curme
Originally posted by DJMessiah
Believe it or not, Muslims do not believe in eternal damnation. The Quran says that even those with an ounce of kindness and love in their heart will go to heaven, even if they're not Muslim, Christian, or Jewish.
Wow, that is cool! Sounds like a common sense religion! Too bad about the whole alcohol thing! It's too bad that we don't hear more about the good, instead of the xenophobic bad.
Originally posted by DJMessiah
Originally posted by curme
Originally posted by DJMessiah
Believe it or not, Muslims do not believe in eternal damnation. The Quran says that even those with an ounce of kindness and love in their heart will go to heaven, even if they're not Muslim, Christian, or Jewish.
Wow, that is cool! Sounds like a common sense religion! Too bad about the whole alcohol thing! It's too bad that we don't hear more about the good, instead of the xenophobic bad.
Thanks. Alchohol is allowed, only for medical purposes. The Quran forbids any intoxicants and inhibitors not used for medical purposes.
Originally posted by DJMessiah
I'm sure there's a medical benefit to them, such as inhibitors will numb the body from feeling certain levels of pain. But the question would be if the person really needs the "medication." An example would be, Chemotherapy is used for treating cancer cells, and holds great medical value, but is it really needed for those who don't have cancer?
[edit on 19-9-2006 by DJMessiah]
Originally posted by hogtie
Both books are incredibly similar. They share a cultural history as well as the same god of Abraham, along with the Jewish peoples.
The call for violent opposition of non-believers is universal in all three as well. The difference is that Islam has not undergone a period of reformation, which is essential for it to co-exist peacefuly in the modern world.
There are reformers, but they are met with stiff opposition because the old-school hardliners do not want to give up thier power to a more personal God. Julaladin Rumi was a 14th century mystic who believed that a religion with divisions was no relegion at all. His head was mysteriously cut off, and these hundreds of years later, some Muslims just see him as a mediocre scholar, instead of the spiritual genius he was.
Originally posted by Rockpuck
The fact is this though. How many people now-a-day declare themselves the voice of god, how many pat robertsons are there in this world.. well 2k years ago someone made such a claim the ignorant masses followed in flock to these guys, much like many do to the modern day self proclaimed prophets and holy men.
Some day I hope the world wakes up from their mythology and realize how ignorant the whole concept truly is.