The lost Word.

You're very welcome interestedalways and Esoteric Teacher.


Much of it is admittedly based on intellectual learning though(my writing that's not from 'external sources' that is). So I've been refining and re-editing my last two posts for the last few minutes(so you may want to observe the corrections/additions I've made if it has been a few minutes since you read the posts).


Observe your personalities, remember your Divine Mother, and see if what I've proposed based on what I've learned and shared, can help to bring you your own Gnosis of your Inner Elohim.




Regards




[edit on 23-9-2006 by Tamahu]

Originally posted by Tamahu

"what you are looking for is what is looking".

Not necessarily.

It is possible that the "I"(such as an "I" of fear) is looking for the Infinite Primordial Consciousness.

But the "I" cannot comprehend the Consciousness that is trapped within it.

what happens when this concept no longer exists?

what if the first "i am" who created "love" to battle "lonliness" and "sadness" did not acknowledge the first 2 fears of "fearing being alone" and "fearing sadness" until the first "i am" created "love" and then saw the third "fear" along with the first 2 fears of lonliness and sadness, but the first i am felt guilty and shamefull for not knowing all 3 until the creation of "love".

then, what if the christ gave the first love consciousness?

and the first son of man gave consciousness to "fear" when the third fear killed able?

and then cain was not permitted into heaven until he or any of cain's decendants took a conscious fear to a consciously self aware "lovingfully forgivingfully knowingfully".

so, what if fear itself is / was / or shall be self aware, conscious, intelligent, and not fearing for just 1 moment?

would people want a god of "truthingfully lovingfully knowingfully fearingfully losing only lovingfully knowingfully forgivingfully .. . .. ... . . "

in short if " truth" did not fear losing love?

would you want a god who was "truth fearing losing love", or would you choose to have a god that does not comprehend fear?

"The Light Shineth in darkness and the darkness comprehendeth it not"

would you have a light that comprehends the darkness of fear and all it's masks of deception?


it is just a question, just words of my truth that i hold up for you to see if they are compatible.

thanks in advance for your time.

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher

i am just a silly odd man named "som".
i thank you for your time.

I have not quoted the complete post to save some bandwith...

I don't seem to be able to be as esoteric as that, so, unfortunatly I do not understand what you are saying.
You may have something interesting to tell but you should not assume that by typing words you will telepathically transmit a deep knowledge to others.

I am in favour of esotericism but I think it should be accompanied by good examples and explanations otherwise you are just hyper exciting and spinning your own mind.

Tamahu, you said:

-"Well IAOH is an Esoteric Gnostic Mantra related to the Divinity YHWH.
IAO or IAOH is considered to be the name of the God of the Gnostics.
Many Ancient words are ended with the letter "H"(as to why, I'm not exactly sure to be honest, but it could very well be related to the final H of YHVH)
Mantras and words in general, form specific Geomteric Shapes(God is the Word).
The Greek, Indian and Hebrew Mysteries aren't as exclusive of one another as many assume... "-



Thanks for your words,

I suppose I respect rather than envy your eclecticism..
(the last H is definetely wrong).

In occultism there is no consensus on Cosmonogy and the heavenly personnel. Often the basic experience is of dualism in the manicheic sense of Good and Evil ex nihilo. Sometimes Evil is deemed to have been created by Man himself.
Angels are mostly designated as heavenly doctors, Demons are responsible for the acquisition of Gold.

-Last words of Gotama Buddha, in Theravada tradition
Doubt everything. Find your own light.

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher

Originally posted by Tamahu

"what you are looking for is what is looking".

Not necessarily.

It is possible that the "I"(such as an "I" of fear) is looking for the Infinite Primordial Consciousness.

But the "I" cannot comprehend the Consciousness that is trapped within it.

what happens when this concept no longer exists?

When the "I" is eliminated, the concept of an "I" separate from everything else is dissolved.

what if the first "i am" who created "love" to battle "lonliness" and "sadness" did not acknowledge the first 2 fears of "fearing being alone" and "fearing sadness" until the first "i am" created "love" and then saw the third "fear" along with the first 2 fears of lonliness and sadness, but the first i am felt guilty and shamefull for not knowing all 3 until the creation of "love".

From what I've learned, the "I AM" has always known Love and has never known fear.

The "I AM" creates the Universe and all of it's beings in order to gain experience through them.

Fear is a result of sparks of God's creations becoming identified with the apparent dualism of the themselves and the Universe.

But all the sparks are part of a single Fire whether we as apparent Individuals comprehend it or not.

then, what if the christ gave the first love consciousness?

and the first son of man gave consciousness to "fear" when the third fear killed able?

Love and Consciousness are the same thing are they not?

Where there is no Love, there is only sub, un, and infra-consciousness.

and then cain was not permitted into heaven until he or any of cain's decendants took a conscious fear to a consciously self aware "lovingfully forgivingfully knowingfully".

If you're saying that in order to transcend fear, we("cain's descendants") must first become Conscious of it(by extracting Consciousness from the ego of fear through comprehension), then I agree

so, what if fear itself is / was / or shall be self aware, conscious, intelligent, and not fearing for just 1 moment?

Fear is due to ignorance.

As long as we have not fully comprehended it's origin and how it manifests at any given time in all the levels of the mind, it will always be somewhere within our subconsciousness until it is rooted out and destroyed through meditation and Conscious Comprehension(all with the aid of the Transmuted Sexual Fire and faith in the Divine).

Fear is all in the mind, and is a result of shirk, or belief in separate existence.

Tauhid or Tawhid(Oneness of God) is fully Comprehended when the "I" is eliminated no?

would people want a god of "truthingfully lovingfully knowingfully fearingfully losing only lovingfully knowingfully forgivingfully .. . .. ... . . "

in short if " truth" did not fear losing love?

Now you're losing me.

Will you clarify this?

would you want a god who was "truth fearing losing love", or would you choose to have a god that does not comprehend fear?

How could God(Truth) fear losing Love, when Truth and Love are synonymous?

This is a really tough mystery though, that if God is One and within All, that we humanoids(symbolised by "Adam" or Tiphereth) could forget our true origins.

God has always known Love and Truth at His/Her level; however within us sparks of God, a part of that Truth Consciousness is divided up into the confines of the various kleshas or psychological aggregates(hate, fear, lust, greed, envy, etc.).

Fortunately, due to the grace of Christ, not all of His Counsciousness within us is trapped.

That spark of Christ within, or the seed of self-less Compassion not trapped within ignorance, is called in the East Buddha Nature, Tathagatagharba, Buddhata, etc.

And this seed is the free-Consciousness that is capable of freeing the rest of the trapped Consciousness in order to attain Buddha-Christhood.

How did it become trapped in the first place?

Only YOU(with the help of God) can find that out.



I have heard and realized that bondage and salvation are both within yourself.
- Acarangasutra 5.36


If you wish to untie a knot, you must first understand how it was tied. - Buddhism. Surangama Sutra.

"The Light Shineth in darkness and the darkness comprehendeth it not"

would you have a light that comprehends the darkness of fear and all it's masks of deception?


it is just a question, just words of my truth that i hold up for you to see if they are compatible.

thanks in advance for your time.

Would I have a light that comprehends psychological darkness and fear?

"I" would sure hope so.

But the question is finding who this "I" is, and if it exists as "I" think it does.

But is it not safe to say at the least, that the false concept of a separate "I" is somehow related to the Three Poisons of ignorance, hate and lust, the three antithesis' of CHiram Abiff?

That to see these aggregates with a quite mind, through direct meditative Comprehension and not just mere intellection, might reveal the origins of things?

When the mind is silent, the Consciousness can be active, and with an active Consciousness comes the silence of the mind.

But silence is not something 'arrived at' per se'; as to exert oneself to arrive at something already latent there, is of the movement of the mind, the very thing one is to negate through meditation.


Samael Aun Weor has stated something regarding this(paraphrased):

"Any unnecessary movement of the mind, is of the psychological "I""



Only our Inner Being truly knows when to utilize the mind and when not too, all under the direction of Intuition.



“If your mind is empty, it is always ready for anything; it is open to everytihng. In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few.” -Shunryu Suzuki





Regards










[edit on 25-9-2006 by Tamahu]

Originally posted by Belinquest
Thanks for your words,

I suppose I respect rather than envy your eclecticism..
(the last H is definetely wrong).

The last H is wrong?

You mean that putting it at the end of IAO is not based authentic Occultism?

In occultism there is no consensus on Cosmonogy and the heavenly personnel. Often the basic experience is of dualism in the manicheic sense of Good and Evil ex nihilo. Sometimes Evil is deemed to have been created by Man himself.
Angels are mostly designated as heavenly doctors, Demons are responsible for the acquisition of Gold.

Well there certainly is no consensus, when conclusions are only based on intellect as opposed to direct Comprehension.

-Last words of Gotama Buddha, in Theravada tradition
Doubt everything. Find your own light.

Indeed.

My last post, if you haven't read it, is related to this and even contains similar quotes by Lord Buddha from the link provided.




Regards

Originally posted by Tamahu

The last H is wrong?

You mean that putting it at the end of IAO is not based authentic Occultism?

Well there certainly is no consensus, when conclusions are only based on intellect as opposed to direct Comprehension.

Regards

I detect a sense of impatience coming from your quarters; I only mean to discuss Tamahu, we all have beliefs which we hold valid ...

I believe that the last H is wrong and not based on correct Gnosticism in the sense that odds are wilder than even; a rough diamond has always more potential and genuinity than a squared and tamed diamod. Intuition happens before analysis, flux is for ever, knowledge must chase it.

You see what I mean by saying there is no consensus, I am not sure where your intellect ends and your direct Comprehension begins, but I know that if I were able to achiev Comprehension and Identification with something Beautiful, I would not be typing these words, I would be There.

I have direct Comprehension on the notions I put forward, do you have direct Comprehension of all the concepts and words you use?

Originally posted by Belinquest
I detect a sense of impatience coming from your quarters; I only mean to discuss Tamahu, we all have beliefs which we hold valid ...

If that seems to be reflected in my writing, I apologize.

If it is there, it is not intentional.

I believe that the last H is wrong and not based on correct Gnosticism in the sense that odds are wilder than even; a rough diamond has always more potential and genuinity than a squared and tamed diamod. Intuition happens before analysis, flux is for ever, knowledge must chase it.

Not to argue..., but just to explore some of the points you've made here...

I would not say that analysis and Intuiton come one before or after the other.

They (should)go hand in hand no?


It is interesting that you utilize the Diamond to illustrate your statement.

Yes, potential is good; because without it, God couldn't experience and have full Cognizance of Her/His Perfection(Paranishpanna) within His/Her Creation.


About the Diamond Soul(Vajrasattva):

The Gnosis of Easter


...Therefore, those who want to comprehend the mysteries of Easter must reach the High Initiation; they have to live the tragedy of Golgotha in their bodies of bones and flesh. They will have their own Judas, their own Pilate and their accusers when they decide to climb up to their own Golgotha. The seven chakras of the astral body, the endocrine glands and their correspondent ethereal and mental wheels are only the purely animal exponents of the Seven Suns of the Innermost. These Seven Suns of the Innermost reside within his Diamond Soul. Therefore, when we state that the Kundalini opens the seven churches under the guidance of the Innermost, we are talking about the Christification of the Diamond Soul. This soul has to light her Seven Suns and to totally Christify herself so that she can become fused with the Innermost. The eye of Brahma has the shape of a white and glowing star that the Master carries on his divine forehead. The ear of Brahma is a marvelous white sun that the Master carries on his creative larynx. The heart of Brahma shines with the divine white and blue colors within the heart of the Master. The solar fire resplendently shines in the navel of Brahma and finally the other three centers of Brahma shine as ineffable suns. The Innermost has his Seven Churches in his Diamond Soul and the astral chakras are just his animal exponents; they are something like the shadow of the Seven Suns of the Innermost. Gnostics are neither interested in inferior psychism nor in the astral chakras of the animal soul. We are concerned only in the Diamond Soul and the Innermost. We are concerned only with superlative powers of the consciousness. We must put to an end onto the process of the animal soul and extract the psychic extracts from our inferior bodies with heroism in order to assimilate those psychic extracts within our Diamond Soul, for each one of us to become Self-realized as a Brahmin or as a Dhyan-choan or as a Solar Pitri. The Diamond Soul is the Buddhic or Intuitional body, it is the body of the spirit of life, it is the “soul-spirit;” it is Buddha, the superlative consciousness of the Being, and even when the astral chakras rotate and shine, they are nothing but simple and mere weak wax candles when compared with the ineffable radiance of the seven churches that the Innermost has located in his Diamond Soul. Joyful be the ones who liberate themselves from the bodies of sin!...

Anyway, about the "H"; if you look at the Principles that IHVH, the Tetragrammaton represents, we can see a correlation to the IAOH:

Arcanum 3: The Empress


Remember that the Sepher Yetzirah marvelously describes all the splendors of the world and the extraordinary play of the Sephiroth within God and the Human Being through the thirty two paths of Wisdom. The entire science of the Sephiroth is hidden within the sexual mysteries.

The soul has three aspects:

Nephesh, the Animal Soul.

Ruach, the Thinking Soul.

Neshamah, the Spiritual Soul.

The Sephiroth are the substratum of these three aspects of the souls. The Sephiroth are atomic. The Zohar insists on these three “principle elements” which compose the world. These elements are: Fire (Shin), Water (Mem), Air (Aleph). These elements are the perfect synthesis of the four manifested elements. The powerful Mantra I.A.O. encompasses the magical power of the triangle of these principle elements:

I – Ignis – Fire

A – Aqua – Water

O – Origo – Principle Spirit

I…. A… O… is the Supreme Mantra of the Arcanum A.Z.F.


Whosoever wants to raise the soul of the world through the medullar canal must work with the Sulfur (Fire), with the Mercury (Water) and with the Salt (Philosophical Earth). It is only in this way that one can be born in Spirit and Truth. The Twelve Secret Keys of Basil Valentine (Basilius Valentinus), the Benedictine of Erfurt are found within the Arcanum A.Z.F. The entire secret of the Great Work is enclosed within the ‘Azoth’ series of Basil Valentine. AZOTH is the sexual creative principle of Nature. The Magnum Work has been performed when the Rose of the Spirit blooms upon the Cross of our Body. The three Principle-Elements are the Three Mother Letters of the Hebraic Alphabet. When one is practicing the Arcanum A.Z.F. one is working with these three ‘principle-elements’ within the Great Laboratory of Nature. One works with Mercury, Sulfur and Salt when one practices the Arcanum A.Z.F.; this is how the lead of the Personality is transmuted into the Gold of the Spirit; this is how we create the Golden Child of Alchemy within us. These three ‘principle-elements’ become manifested within the four elements of Nature. There exists the heat of Fire and Air, the humidity of Air and Water, and the dryness of Fire and Earth. These are the three ‘principle-elements,’ the I.A.O., the Sulfur, Mercury and Salt contained within the four elements of Nature. The Elemental Paradises of Nature are found within these ‘principle-elements.’ The Kabbalist-Alchemist must learn how to use Sulfur, Mercury and Salt. The larvae of the Astral Body (incubi, succubi, basilisks, dragons, phantoms, etc.) are destroyed by putting sulfur powder inside of our shoes. Sulfur originates invisible vapors that rise in order to disintegrate these types of larvae. Malignant forms of thoughts and larvae enclosed within any room are disintegrated when one burns sulfur upon a flaming piece of charcoal. Mercury serves in order to prepare Lustral Water; the Great Astrologer Nostradamus spent many nights before a copper container filled with water. This is how, by looking within these Waters, this great Seer saw the future events that he left written in his famous prophesies. If we add Mercury to water and place a mirror at the bottom of the copper container, a marvelous ‘Clairteleidoscope’ is formed. We advise the use of any copper container with the exception of the so called cauldron (a symbol of Black Magic). Copper is intimately related with the Pituitary gland and has the power of awakening Clairvoyance. Salt is also used often in White Magic. Salt must be combined with alcohol. If alcohol and salt are placed within a container and if this mixture is then ignited, a marvelous smoke offering is obtained. This type of smoke offering is only done when invoking the Gods of Medicine, when a sick person needs to be healed. Thus, they will assist your call. The sulfur (fire) totally burns without leaving any residue. Sulfur is the Shin of the Zohar. The Water (the Ens Seminis) is the Mem of the Zohar. By means of successive transmutations, Fire and Water are reduced to the Kabbalistic Aleph (which the Alchemist calls Alkaest). This is how the I.A.O. is performed, and this is how the twelve faculties of the soul are opened. The Soul is Christified, “the Kundalini blooms upon our fertile lips made Verb.” The ternary is the Word, plenitude, fecundity, nature, the generation of the Three Worlds. The third Arcanum of Kabbalah is that woman dressed with the Sun, with the Moon under her feet, and crowned with twelve stars. The symbol of the Queen of Heaven is the Empress of the Tarot. She is a mysterious, crowned woman, seated with the Scepter of Command in her hand. The globe of the world is on top of the Scepter. She is Urania-Venus of the Greeks, the Christified Soul. The man is Arcanum number one and the Woman is Arcanum number two of the Tarot. The Christified soul is the outcome of the sexual union of both (the secret is the Arcanum A.Z.F.). The Woman is the Mother of the Verb. Christ is always the child of Immaculate Conceptions. It is impossible to be born without a mother. When the Initiate is ready to incarnate the Verb, a woman appears in the superior worlds as if with child, having labor pains in delivery.


When Jesus therefore (on the cross) saw his mother and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he said unto his mother: Woman, behold thy son! Then he said to (John) the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home. - John 19:26, 27


The word John can be rearranged as follows: I.E.O.U.A.N., the Verb (the Dragon of Wisdom). Indeed, the Woman is the Mother of the Verb and the Woman officiates upon the altar of the Blessed Goddess Mother of the World. Now Brethren, know that the Venerable Priestess of your Divine Mother Kundalini is your spouse...

Arcanum 21: Transmutation


...The Ain Soph is that unknowable and invisible Seity, whose latent presence and power (within every Monad) becomes dynamic through its outer triple flame “Shin”. The latent power of the Ain Soph acting through the letter “Shin” (Holy Trinity) is the secret of Elijah’s Burnt Sacrifice, whose trench is filled with four barrels of water (Iod, He, Vav, He) three times, because the power of Jah and Havah (Iod-Havah or Jehovah) is in the waters (Schamayim) that becomes active by means of “Shin” (the Three Primary forces) in Daath-Yesod. El-Shaddai is the name of the everlasting Essence of Elohim in Yesod-Sex before revealing its beauty, but after the Ruach Elohim’ s dynamic power becomes active in any Monad it becomes Iod, He Vav, He Elohim or Iod-Havah Elohim or Jehovah Elohim.


Exodus 6: 3: And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of El-Shaddai, but by my name Iod-Havah was I not known to them.



IAOH


The action of the “Shin” (Fire) within every Monad endures until these three flames (Kether, Chokmah and Binah) become one within the invisible flame the Ain Soph by means of the Self-realization of the Being. Then the invisible flame becomes visible to the outer flames and become an Elohim with a Mercabah or four flames (Iod, He, Vav, He), a living Iod-Havah Elohim. Iod-Havah Elohim, which is the name of Binah in Atziluth, works in Yesod, the Nine Sphere, Sex as the Ruach Elohim: The invisible power of the light of the Ain Soph (the Ain Soph Aur) of any Cosmocreator is hidden within its Ruach Elohim which manifests in Yesod – Sex. This power enters into activity by means of “Shin” fire, sexual love, Tantra. This is how Iod-Havah Elohim by means of his Ruach Elohim enters into the Land of Ish-Ra-El (the letter Vav, the spinal Medulla of the Initiate). So, by means of the force of love the fiery Elohim enters into the Land of Israel, the spinal medulla and through Ida, Pingala and Sushumna “Shin” the “Ruach Elohim” spreads as fire in every land (internal bodies or Sephiroth). So, when the Initiate is Self-realized all the fiery powers of the Sephiroth are activated and integrated in one land (the Land of Ish-Ra-El), which is the Resurrected Body (Eden). All of the Self-Realized Sephiroth shine as precious jewels within Eden, within the Resurrected Body, the body of Adam Kadmon.


Matthew 3: 1-17
In those days came (Elijah) incarnated within the body of) John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judea (where people die of spiritual dehydration like lost camels carrying water on their backs in the wilderness), and saying, Repent (do not Fornicate): for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Isaiah, saying: The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare the way of Iod-Havah, make his paths straight. And the same (Elijah reincarnated within) John (IEOUAMS) had his raiment of camel's hair, and a leathern girdle about his loins; and his meat was locusts and wild honey.


2 Kings, chapter 1: 6-8: And they said unto him, There came a man up to meet us, and said unto us, Go, turn again unto the king that sent you, and say unto him, Thus says Iod-Havah, Is it not because there is not Elohim in Israel, that you send to inquire of Baal-zebub the god of Ekron (Klipoth)? Therefore you shall not come down from that bed on which you are gone up, but shall surely die. And he said unto them, what manner of man was he which came up to meet you, and told you these words? And they answered him, He was an hairy man, and girt with a girdle of leather about his loins. And he said, It is Elijah the Tishbite. Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judea, and all the region round about Jordan, and were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins. But when he saw many of the (hypocritical) Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, Oh generation of vipers, who has warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: And think not to say within yourselves, we have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that (the Ruach of) God (Elohim) is able of these stones (of Yesod) to rise up (within the spinal medulla) children unto Abraham. And now also the (the double fiery sharp) axe is laid unto the root of the trees (of Good and Evil): therefore every tree (in Yesod) which brings not forth good fruit (knowledge) is hewn down, and cast into the fire (of Klipoth). I indeed baptize you with water (of Schamayim) unto repentance (unto chastity): but he (Shin, the Fire) that comes after me is mightier than I, whose (winged) shoes I am not worthy to bear: he (Shin) shall baptize you with the Holy Spirit, and with fire: Whose fan (Aleph) is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire (in Klipoth). Then Jesus (Nazarenus Rex Iudaeorum) came from Galilee (the brain) to Jordan (Yesod) unto John, to be baptized of him. But John (IEOUAMS) forbad him, saying, I have needed to be baptized of you (the Fire, Shin), and you come to me? And Jesus (Shin, the Fire) answering said unto him: suffer it to be so now: for thus it becomes us to fulfill all righteousness.


John 3: 13-15 And (this is because) no man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life. Then he suffered him. And Jesus, when he was baptized (the “Shin” the fire), went up straightway out of the water (of Schamayim): and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God (the Ruach Elohim) descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This (Dove) is (Shin, fire) my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


There are many types of fires: The fire of lightning, the fire that is concentrated within plants, the fire that burns in the interior of the mountains and that is vomited by the volcanoes of the earth, the fire that is utilized in order to cook, the fire that is in each world. But, in synthesis (in Yesod, the Ninth Sphere, Sex), we only speak about two fires, the Solar and Lunar fire. The solar fire is Christic, sublime; it is Devi Kundalini; whereas the lunar negative, fatal Luciferic fire is the Kundabuffer. The solar fire crystallizes in worlds, suns and universes. The lunar fire crystallizes in all of those entities that constitute the animal ego...

The final "HE" of IHVH is in one aspect symbolic of the Eternal Womb of the Divine Mother in AIN SOPH, from which all proceeds from.

So the Triune Logos IOD-HE-VAU, + the HE(of AIN SOPH).

The final "HE" encompasses the entire Tetragrammaton.

You see what I mean by saying there is no consensus, I am not sure where your intellect ends and your direct Comprehension begins, but I know that if I were able to achiev Comprehension and Identification with something Beautiful, I would not be typing these words, I would be There.

I was not directing my statement regarding this to anyone in particular.

Just saying that, in general, the reason there is no consensus for the average masses of the rational mammals, is because their conculsions are usually based on the subjective elements(egos) we carry within our psyches.

The Masters and Prophets of all the Great Traditions(Islam, Buddhism, Gnostic, Tao, etc.) I would say have certainly come to a consensus regarding the Spiritual Principles and shaping factors that form, sustain and dissolve the cosmos within and without.

They only dress these principles with apparantly different symbolism.

I have direct Comprehension on the notions I put forward, do you have direct Comprehension of all the concepts and words you use?

Some perhaps..., but others are based on my learning of the correlations between the "different" systems.


And like I've said, I have no intentional ill-will toward anyone here.

If my frankness is out of place(due to ignorance) in that it causes unnecessary hard feelings; then I, like all of us, shall reap what I sow.




Regards




[edit on 26-9-2006 by Tamahu]

Thanks Tamahu

A very informative and interesting post, a pleasure to read...
I have a "liking" for Iao because it is the Trinity of Yod, Aleph, Vau the number 17, the masculine triad.
Thanks for your thughts.