John Lear's Moon Pictures on ATS

It appears I don't have enough credits to edit posts or reply to u2u's, but thanks for the html repair advise, Imposion. I guess I'm still going to need to use an outside source to link to images.

Here's a link to my recolored "steam shovel" which I've titled Excavator:

northstar-autoparts.com...

Also, still on Copernicus2, I've found more oddities:

The Shute:

northstar-autoparts.com...

It's a pixal coordinates:

x-7.966
y-17.585

And something I've titled Peek-A-Boo City at pixal coordinates:

x-14.889
y-14.632

northstar-autoparts.com...

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by JohnnyAnonymous
Because of my first being drawn to this area because of what appears to possibly be to impact collisions above one other (conjecture), I decided to crop and zoom in a bit on the area of interest.

Welcome to the "Hunt"

You are the first to mention that the images are mirrored LOL So much for powers of observation huh?

[even though one of the sphere posts has the 63 in it reversed]

You have found one of the cave/tunnel openings

Of the top of my head there are 5 more that qualify...

Maybe you could tweek the enhancement a little because it looks like there is a row of them in the dark looking at your sepia one.

Sorry it took so long to get back. I've attempted as you suggested to bring a bit more detail out on the area I found curious. I'm no where in the caliber of your photo expertise, but I did my best.

ORIGINAL


Contrast and Gamma


Colorized


I would tend to agree with the thought that this is an entrance (or outlet) to something as the dark area (if it were solely a shadow) should be illuminated from this angle of view.

(The original post on this area with larger section photos is on page 20)


Keep up the good work.

An associate said that he thought he might bring a bit more detail out... So here is
his enhancement of the same area..

Originally posted by johnlear
Originally posted by violet

I can't see any cranes or excavators ! Can a pic be posted just of this machinery?That way I can look at my big copies.
Thanks.

Btw, I'm confused again, which original image is this from? The Lick or Lunar orbiter ones?

The large lunar mining operation is on the north interior face of the Copernicus crater taken by Lunar Orbiter II exposure 162H.

Ok I finally am able to view these large images. Before they wouldn't load, and when they did it took ages to zoom, and move across the picture. I opened them in Photoshop and zoomed in that and didn't have to wait. Much faster!

I admit now that I can see some of the things you and Zorgon have pointed out. Being able to scan across the image, allowed me to see things as a whole, then zoom on each part.

The tunnels, are definitely not naturally occurng formations in the landscape. Someone put them there. However, as for the cranes and machinery, etc, that is a bit harder for me to see clearly. I will keep trying !
Thanks

Originally posted by zorgon
And here is the other one.... Locations will be on the grid map when its done, but you can hunt them yourself... both of these are on C#1



[edit on 12-10-2006 by zorgon]

I saw sonethng like this on the far left of C#1. I thought it was a shadow of an overhead craft or the oribitor? Also, there is another image, again on the very left near the frame numbers, that looks like a airplane, or shuttle that has a nose like a Concorde jet. Kind of looks like a bird!

Sorry, I can't post a crop of it, since I don't have enough points to do so.

Originally posted by papajake
The Shute:
northstar-autoparts.com...

You missed one of the other "cranes" in your clipping... look again...




Pages have been updated... Info page and 6 pages with found items...

Moon Anomalies Collection

Seems we are on a roll now...

Oh almost forgot... The grid ones will take a while... I am waiting for the .bmp images before I make that, but I do have the three pics done with outlines and markings that match the closeups on the webpage... but I promised a large version with areas marked...

landoflegends.us...
landoflegends.us...
landoflegends.us...

[edit on 15-10-2006 by zorgon]

Originally posted by zorgon
landoflegends.us...
landoflegends.us...

Thanks Zorgon, this made it easier for me to locate these "anomalies" on my own copy of this image Admin edit: Removed childish comment and FALSE INFORMATION. Here's what some of the more popular "anomalies" look like for comparison...

"building"


"crane"


another "crane"


and finally, my favorite "peekaboo"


And just so you know, I asked Springer if he would be interested in hosting my copy of this image (it’s HUGE) here on ATS but he isn't.

Admin Edit #2 The reason we aren't interested in hosting these NASA images is because they are easily found on NASAs website.

If the images don't show up just wait an hour and try again... it's a bandwidth limiting thing sorry. Hah, just noticed this is the 666th post in this thread... coincidence?


Admin Edit#3: Access Denied is BANNED, this member has been repeatedly cautioned about his "issues" and obviously hasn't been able to get past them. The comments I deleted were disgusting and hugely immature and certainly NOT ATS material.



[edit on 10-15-2006 by Springer]

As I was searching through the numerous anomalies that you've amassed my attention was drawn towards an area on the Cap-1 photo in the top right region. This area appears to may be possibly comprised of 45 degree angles and is in between (and just to the lower left) of an area you've marked out with a sphere and a bit lower, a crane.

I searched thruout the pages to see if anyone else had made a reference to this area yet, and if it has been mentioned before my apologies for missing it.

I find it interesting that there would be any square-shaped craters on the moon in the first place. All my attempts at trying to reveal any detail of this square area were met with failure (perhaps someone with better expertise can present their findings). Perhaps this particular area was 'air-brushed' out, I really don't know. But it's around the square that as I was filtering seem to reveal perhaps some objects/anomalies that didn't seem to belong. Of course this could be as one poster saind many pages back, just my brain trying to associate a 'real world' object to what might be nothing more than the actual moonscape. With that in mind, please understand that I make no claims at all except that I find these areas curious. My hope is that you (Zorgon) can lean your geological background to the areas and tell me that i'm either imagining things, or have maybe found a few anomalies.

I'm including a photo of the area, and then below some links to a sequence of filtered photos that are zoomed and cropped. My decision was to try and save the bandwidth here rather than post/publish the larger photos...




And here are the zoomed and cropped photos:


Original Zoomed.. No filters...

Curious Areas

Curious area in Sepia

Curious areas with slight colorization

What my 'mind' is trying to convince me is that the area to the bottom left of the square is either another mine/cave entrance or something similar to a large quonset-like structure. The area located to the right of the square appears to be some lengthy perhaps mechanical device that may be cross-fitted that stretches downward (POV). The last few could certainly be nothing more than some 'particulate that was on the photo negative/film, but to me (again in my mind), it certainly has the appearance of either a cylinder or some other object that doesn't seem to be associated with the landscape as there is no shadow being cast. The location of this anomaly is lower right and is quite bright (or reflective). The last anomaly/object is directly mid-bottom and is simply circular or spherical in appearance.

There are other areas that also caught my attention for instance the long "T" shaped area just next to the structure I thought was similar to a "quonset-hut". It appears to be a top-smoothed out area. Perhaps a "T" is the wrong word, maybe "crescent-like" would be more appropriate. I didn't colorize that area, but it should be easy to see as it starts near the 'mouth-entrance' of the quonset area and extends towards the 'square-area'. It also seems to jet out towards us (the viewer) or downwardly in a strange perspective type of view.

So again, being that I'm no expert in topography I'm hoping someone else can share their views whether they be pro or con. I'm enjoying "the hunt" as Zorgon exclaimed earlier and look forward to hearing or seeing perhaps better graphical renditions of what I thought was curious in this area..



[edit on 15-10-2006 by JohnnyAnonymous]

Greetings lost_shaman.

As a child I always liked to play with the red ant hills. I always got stung multiple times, even once when they ran up my pants and got in my underwear. But my curiosity always got the best of me, so I always returned to repeat the experience. Here my post about lost_shaman is sure to illicit dire consequences, but my curiosity is getting the best of me again. I know I'll live, it only is a matter of fighting through the pain.

So, shaman, are you real or in my head?

Originally posted by lost_shaman Especially if your getting some small reward for "seeing it" like a bit of ATS Fame , then your more likely to simply "believe" what your "seeing" in order that you no longer need to lie to be inadequately rewarded.

One would hope to lie to get an adequate reward. But why would knowing not be reward enough?

For instance if this thread was not popular , I highly doubt that you would have made hundreds of posts about "Faces" and "buildings" , and "graded roads"as you have to date.

Indeed, if Zorgon didn't have this thread to vent his discoveries my email would be crammed to the hilt. Thank the good blessings of ATS for that!

No one can say for certain we will not need a shrink to debrief us loonies after our return from the Moon.

Originally posted by JohnnyAnonymous
I find it interesting that there would be any square-shaped craters on the moon in the first place. All my attempts at trying to reveal any detail of this square area were met with failure (perhaps someone with better expertise can present their findings).

Yes you have certainly found an anomaly. To my knowledge there has never been a square crater. Good find. The stuff beside it looks odd, but as yet I have not been able to bring anything out...

The square hole matches the cross by the "Box" building. No meteor I know makes a square or a cross shaped hole

I am having the same problem... there are MANY square areas that defy natural explanation. I have collected several but have not posted them yet because I have not been able to get something others can easily see... One method is going over the "suspect" areas and zooming in on pixels... the rocks etc are blended and feathered, the anomalies stand out as angular...

John spotted one today while looking at the "venting pipe" I am going to post it here in a minute... I will have a closer look at the area you pointed out. But there are so many objects that draw the eye that look "wrong" Its going to take a while to track them all down...

Good thing I don't need to sleep



Johnny... I want you to study this next one... look at it from a distance and close up... Give me your impressions... I won't say anything about this one for now






[edit on 16-10-2006 by zorgon]

Well I've been up for the past 19 hours without sleep working on another project that has to meet a deadline, but while I'm eating breakfast I guess I can take a look-see..

(10 minutes later)

OK.. I'm dead tired but there were three areas that jumped out at me.. (probably my brain cells exploding). I've just grabbed the three areas without my usual filtering and thrown them together. After I get some sleep I'll denote some more time to the image and see if I even really saw anything at all..

(1) far right area appears to be either a large plume of dust/dirt or particulates of some form, almost acting like a fogbank. There is one particular 'plume' that jets upward rather unusually. To the right of that 'plume' is a extremely dark teardrop shaped area. To the left of that 'plume' is an almost flattened-like 'jewish-star of david' like something or another that seems to be also wrapped within a 'mist/dust.
Plume of dust/mist
Plume area in Sepia

(2) The next was is to the left of that area (nearby) and to looks almost like a rock shelf with some form of road. In fact when you look at it really filtered with gamma, it gives the illusion of being a bridge being supported by some structure in the middle below it.

Road?, bridge?, rock-shelf?

(3) the last one is very interesting as it looks to be either a plowed area, or some massive structure lying close to the ground perhaps by another structure to the top of the lengthy anomaly..

Plowed area or something else close to the ground
Plowed area or.. Enhanced

As I said, probably just my sleep deprived mind playing tricks on me... Going to get a bit of a nap and will come back later to see if I made any sense at all or was just seeing "Ghost in the Machines"..

Not sure if anyone has posted this one yet, so I apologize in advance if it has. This image appears to me as a sphere with windows. It also looks to be in front of a cave entrance. You can actually see the shadow of the sphere. And there’s also what appears to be a bridge just to the left.

It located on Copernicus2. The pixal coordinates are:

x-40.768
y-23.417


northstar-autoparts.com...

Originally posted by JohnnyAnonymous
Well I've been up for the past 19 hours without sleep working on another project that has to meet a deadline, but while I'm eating breakfast I guess I can take a look-see..

HA! See? your hooked now... be careful you might become a "loony". I mean seeionf MIST on the Moon? LOL

Not bad for being asleep on your feet though [sleep is highly overated anyway]
(10 minutes later)

(1) far right area appears to be either a large plume of dust/dirt or particulates of some form, almost acting like a fogbank. There is one particular 'plume' that jets upward rather unusually. To the right of that 'plume' is a extremely dark teardrop shaped area.

Yes.. very noticable "fogbank" there are three other areas that look the same on the whole picture... quite easy to distinguish from white out rocks

To the left of that 'plume' is an almost flattened-like 'jewish-star of david' like something or another that seems to be also wrapped within a 'mist/dust.

That is part of the watermark... if I am looking at what I think you mean...

(3) the last one is very interesting as it looks to be either a plowed area, or some massive structure lying close to the ground perhaps by another structure to the top of the lengthy anomaly...

I am going to try to find a far view in black and white of a town on Earth for comparison, but that whole area left of the mist "gives the impression" of a town. Terraces fields, hint of rooftops and other structures barely there... but zoomed out the impression is uncanny

In the next post I am going to give details on how these images are made. I think there is a misconception here of "negative strips" being joined together...

As I said, probably just my sleep deprived mind playing tricks on me... Going to get a bit of a nap and will come back later to see if I made any sense at all or was just seeing "Ghost in the Machines"..

LOL perhaps it is lack of sleep that frees our subconscious mind to see clearer?

Here is what I had before I sent you the raw image...




More Mist to come....

PAGE SEVEN

Well, I guess the sleep deprivation worked towards my favor then catching 3 out of 4 of the same areas that you found interesting too!

Now that I've had a little sleep, I gravitated back to the one area that really sparks my interest. I've taken the liberty of colorizing an area the seems to have a significant amount of 'spires' (or tripod legged) that seem to jettison from the ground upward. I've colorized these in green and afew other anomalies in a light blue. The other area that I also found a bit compelling was the spheroid shaped object that sit ontop of the 'plowed' or 'road' that leads to what appears to be an entrance to another structure. There also is a small area outlined in yellow below the 'spires' that is curious.

I like to call this one a 'settlement' because there are
housing and/or buildings and/or strucures all over the
place. Copernicus 3.

Originally posted by papajake
Not sure if anyone has posted this one yet, so I apologize in advance if it has.

No need to apologize, its a long thread... just glad you are spotting things. That one is what John says; "Looks like the cockpit section of a Douglas DC-6B. Do you think the Weekly World was right?"

I am surprized that no one has picked up on the odd shadow though...




Now here is the kicker... Here is the SAME spot on C#5 and it still has the weird shadow. In this one you can see the cave much better, and an object in front of it. You can also see a sphere with three smaller spheres in a triangle around it, connected by thin lines. This object is HOVERING as you can see the matching shadow beneath it...

Hi John,

Great find. It looks more like a boneyard than a settlement to me, though. Check out my colorized version:

northstar-autoparts.com...

Also, look at the intricate shadows under the craft which I've colored blue. It really outlines the cone of the thing, plus it looks like it's sitting on legs. And take a close look at the "broken machine". It almost looks like it was broken in half, almost like a egg. In the front section you'll also notice an almost paw-like section.

Very cool.

Zorgon,

Call me crazy, but I don't think that's a shadow, but possibly a very old and out-of-service spacecraft. Check out my colorized version of your pic. If I'm correct, that cave is actually the shadow of the cockpit.

northstar-autoparts.com...

I really wish I could figure out how to edit these posts. I forgot to mention to look at the similarities between your shadow craft and the spacecraft on the boneyard, the link on my previous post.

Excellent work on the boneyard papajake. See what you can do with this.
Go directly behind the mountain of the boneward, its the first, dark, large area you come to. This looks like some kind of facility. (top, right of center).