John Lear's Moon Pictures on ATS

John,

To get back on the subject here that was discussed 3 pages ago...

What do we need to know about the Endymion Crater? Is there supposed to be something around the rim?

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Originally posted by SearchEngine...To get back on the subject here that was discussed 3 pages ago...

Sorry. Didn't mean to derail the thread. Please carry on

Originally posted by SearchEngine

John,

To get back on the subject here that was discussed 3 pages ago...

What do we need to know about the Endymion Crater? Is there supposed to be something around the rim?

Yes. Tried to post the pictures last night but had a problem. While I am doing that you should go to Lick001, rotate the picture 70 degrees ccw then carefully zoom in on the Agarum Promentory. What is that? An Elephant? On the moon?

Having some trouble finding that. Is it southeast of Mare Crisium?

Sorry for the one-liner

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LOL are you talking about this?



Thats the only thing i've found in that area so far.

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Originally posted by johnlear
An Elephant? On the moon?

your not serious, are you???

please post that picture and let's see

one question:

if this is a giant cover-up / conspiracy, then why do we have these pictures???

did nasa accidentally let some pictures out

I've noticed something about the first lick photo. If you want to find anomalies there, OK, go ahead, but be aware that the photo is a composite one. So there are areas where you can find that the light is coming from right and some areas where light comes from left.
And almost all the surface of the moon in pictured at a low sun angle...wich is imposible on a full moon picture. If fact, if you look at the fool moon you'll see that there are fewer surface features visible.
Full moon picture
Half moon picture
See what I mean?

About the lick picture:


Different colors are different light direction / different sun angles


If you look close you'll notice some differences in surface texture. These are because of the image compositing.

Here's the original image


So...if you want to find anomalies...you will sure find them.

edited to fix the links

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Originally posted by SearchEngine

LOL are you talking about this?

Thats the only thing i've found in that area so far.

No, you need to go to the left until you come to the shoreline of Mare Crisium (thats the black area) and then go west (up) until you come to the Promontory which is a high land mass jutting out into the sea (dry). There you will see the elephant/elephants.

Originally posted by they see ALL

your not serious, are you???

please post that picture and let's see

one question:

if this is a giant cover-up / conspiracy, then why do we have these pictures???

did nasa accidentally let some pictures out

That, my friend, is the million dollar question. Who sent me these photos? I have said that they were ordered from a NASA contractor which they were. But they usually come from the contractor in airbrushed prints. Who sent me an unairbrushed negative? And why did they include the Lick photos? I didn't order them. I didn't even know about them.

Cool. This thread is going to take a long time to analyze. Its full of interesting assertions. John, how much time would you estimate that you have spent studying these photos?

Originally posted by Ectoterrestrial

Cool. This thread is going to take a long time to analyze. Its full of interesting assertions. John, how much time would you estimate that you have spent studying these photos?

In the ten or so years I've had them apparently not as much time as Zorgon has in the past 2 weeks! His webite on these photos is incredible. I can't even imagine how much work he has put into these photos.

Originally posted by johnlear

No, you need to go to the left until you come to the shoreline of Mare Crisium (thats the black area) and then go west (up) until you come to the Promontory which is a high land mass jutting out into the sea (dry). There you will see the elephant/elephants.

Not knowing where the Mare Crisium is located, to make it easier, can you just say which quadrant of the image it is in? Lower left? Upper right? I'm having difficulties loading the large image into view on my comp.

Also, the Lick images have blackened out areas in the dark outer parts, that look like the Photoshop Burn tool was applied to them. Were they just given to you this way?
Thanks

Violet,

Mare Crisium is located in the upper right quadrant. A good source
for finding locations on the moon can be found here:

www.oarval.org...

Mare Crisium is #8 on the list.

can anyone post a great quality pic of these "elephants"???

many thanks in advance...

to tell you the truth, i can't believe i am typing this stuff (no offence)...

Originally posted by SearchEngine
Violet,

Mare Crisium is located in the upper right quadrant. A good source
for finding locations on the moon can be found here:

www.oarval.org...

Mare Crisium is #8 on the list.

Thanks. This makes things much easier.

I can't see an elephant yet though !

Originally posted by violet

Also, the Lick images have blackened out areas in the dark outer parts, that look like the Photoshop Burn tool was applied to them. Were they just given to you this way?

I have asked Zorgon to post the pictures which I seem unable to do of Endymion in 1946 and the other photo of Endymion. Whoever did the 'airbrushing' work did it with a crayon so it must have been before airbrushes were invented. As soon as he gets the Endymion photos posted I will show you what I mean. If he gets them posted before I get back look at the 1 o'clock and 4 o'clock postion on the 1946 photo. You will see remnants of what appears to be dome structure. Then look at the undated, probably more recent photo of Endymion and see how they have obscured that structure at the 4 o'clock position with 4 black vertical marks. Also, for some reason, the have obscured the 'face' of the interior portion of the crater extending from about the 12 o'clock to 1:30 position with a black mark. Possibly to obscure mining operations. These marks are very crude, but then we are talking about photos that were made in 1946 and another probably in the late 40's or early 50's. When you consider what they were obscuring from the public this early, someone had to know in the 1940's what was going on on the moon very early on.

You have voted zorgon for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have two more votes this month.

You deserve this Zorgon for all of your work putting these pictures together in some type of coherant matter

That's why I am going to wait for zorgon to post the picture of the Promontorium Agarum. I finally found it, but no "elephant(s)" from my point of view.

And yes, John, I definitely see the strange brushing on the Endymion Crater. Maybe it was trying to be passed off as a shadow, but if it is it's an odd looking shadow to me.

Elephants!!! Seriously elephants??? Is there any chance of some pics of them at all???

Yep...here
From the lick pictures I expect only black and white specks and some imagination.
Like this one here. Can you spot what's in these spots? ()

I see a couple of elephants here...



at least two at the tail end of perhaps 4 or 5 of them?