The Democrats keep on LOSING...

and, what's wrong with that Colonel???

republicans are the reason this country is falling apart

Originally posted by JamesMcMahn
republicans are the reason this country is falling apart

LMAO!I like your one liners.

Originally posted by Bob88
and, what's wrong with that Colonel???

You see nothing wrong with this?

Bush fund-rasing machine relies on Big
Dollar Donors, as New Names Swell the Ranks of Rangers and Pioneers

The Bush-Cheney re-election campaign�s unprecedented $84 million fundraising effort over four months shows a dramatic reliance on super-donors � 285 contributors who attained elite status with the Bush organization. Analysis of newly released Federal Election Commission (FEC) data reveals that the campaign raised more than 80 percent of its funds via large individual donations mostly raised at exclusive, big-ticket events across the country.

The 2004 Bush campaign named 217 Rangers and Pioneers in the most recent three-month reporting period, adding to 68 individuals who were identified in July. In the 2004 campaign, 178 Rangers or Pioneers are completely new to Bush�s list of big-money bundlers, while 107 were Pioneers in the 2000 election cycle. For a fully updated, searchable list of Rangers and Pioneers, click here.

Read the fact sheet Great Expectations: How Bush Pays Back Big Donors.
See the number of 2004 Rangers and Pioneers by state.
See which 2004 Rangers and Pioneers received appointments from Bush.

www.whitehouseforsale.org...

[Edited on 5-11-2003 by Colonel]

republicans are the reason this country is falling apart

that pales in comparison to how the Dems are raising money (the non-Dean dems, that is).

Take for example www.americacomingtogether.com...

since these wealthy types, like Soros and the Hollywood elites cant give all that much to the DNC, because of campaign finance reform, they start 'ACT' which is basically a money arm of the DNC, laundering 'soft' money and skirting campaign finance laws.

more on these silent partners:

In fact, the disparity was not nearly as lopsided as McAuliffe suggested. As a new Center for Public Integrity analysis shows, Democrats and their allies funneled hundreds of millions of dollars through backdoor committees designed to influence key elections. In the 2002 race, the Democratic Party's silent partners spent more than $185 million�more than double the money spent by Republican organizations.
www.publicintegrity.org...





[Edited on 5-11-2003 by Bob88]

[Edited on 5-11-2003 by Bob88]

Hundreds of millions of dollars were funneled but they spent 185 million for the 2002 Dem RACES (nation-wide, state by state). There's a flaw in the logic here (read LIE). On the other hand, Bush has 175 million for HIMSELF!

There's a problem here and I'm not surprised you don't see it. You're a repugnant.

[Edited on 5-11-2003 by Colonel]

the only flaw I see is the dems and their ROI!!!!




[Edited on 5-11-2003 by Bob88]

lol...


[Edited on 5-11-2003 by Zion Mainframe]

the democrates keep on losing....



thats the way it needs to stay!

When there is nothing to be said in defense of the indefensible, a great tactic is to get together and say nothing loudly together...

www.tvnewslies.org...

Inferior Right Angles
The Empty Argument of Bush Supporters.
TvNewsLies.org - 03-Nov-2003

Listen to the argument from the right. Listen closely. Listen carefully. Do you hear anything? Probably not. There are sounds, there are words, and there are even complete sentences. But there is also something similar about all their proclamations: There is no logic. There is no substance. There is no reasoning. There is never a coherent defense of the madness that is this administration. To paraphrase the bard, the debating angles of the radical right are, ��full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.�

In an attempt to bring contrasting viewpoints to TVNL Radio Live, I ventured into the nether world of conservative and right wing political Internet forums. As a relative newcomer to the battleground between the left and the right, I tried to have an open mind and vowed to listen to what Bush supporters had to say. I really tried. I really, really did. Simple as that.

What I encountered, however, was a wall. It was not a clearly defined wall, - not a palpable wall that shut me out as a member of any forum. I posted, people responded, - but there was no debate. I posted, people responded, but there was no discourse. I posted, and people responded with the same, almost identical methods: labeling, name calling, generalizing, and being in a stark state of denial. The wall that went up excluded any rational exchange of views. Any criticism of the Bush administration was discredited without explanation. It wasn�t true. I was wrong. They were right. Simple as that.

As I wandered from forum to forum, the methods were frighteningly similar. Opinions were posted with no supporting evidence and were totally devoid of details. The primary exchange among the regular members consisted of liberal bashing, pronouncements of right wing patriotism, and mutual admiration for supporting the President. Requests for clarity went unheeded, - documented facts were discredited as left wing propaganda, and the large majority of the posters were there to reinforce one another�s views. Most minds were made up and closed. Simple as that.

I am not suggesting that this means that the left is correct and the right is wrong about any issue under discussion. What I am suggesting is that there seems to be no foundation on which the right can build a case for supporting the President�s policies. The people on the right seem to be at a loss for any concrete reasons for their opinions. They cannot seem to point out the weakness or fallacy of a criticism presented by the left. Rather, one after another, across the board, and across the nation, responded to documented challenges of this administration with dismissive insults. A favorite was the �liberal rag� accusation against any news source to the left of FOX. Nothing, absolutely nothing critical of the Bush administration had any credibility. Simple as that.


(I am so glad that does not describe ATS!!!)

There are NO SOLUTIONS, NO IDEAS, NO REAL TIME POSSIBILITIES, NO NOTHING eminating from the LEFT side of the floor... THere is nothing BUT HOT air, inuendo, hyperbole, and now, TRUE country RISKING political BULLSHYTE coming form THAT side of isle... Go read CNN.Com and have your MIND BLOWN! They had some poor assed staffer write and LEAK a memo that will probably cost him his JOB (when unemployment is at 6.1% THANKS to slick Willy) that ATTEMPTS to indite the current administration of bull#ting the nation into war... HOW many times are they going to TRY THAT ploy(?!) which has come full 360 degrees and bit them SQUARE in the honyauks! NOW the Senate is looking for this poor kid's head and John Rockefellar wants his azz too! NOT good.

You propagandists may say what you will (I have most ALL of you on IGNORE now, YOU know who YOU are, so it WON'T phase me a lick that you who do NOT live in this country, can't VOTE anyways spew your crap to your heart's content!) BUT the TRUTH is the American PUBLIC (they COUNT... YOU DO NOT) has REJECTED your insane arguments in such a RESOUNDING MANNER it's (States going REPUBLICAN accross the BOARD in TRUE elections!) embarrassing to see you "CLING" here on ATS, BUT, it's YOUR RIGHT as a member to do as you see fit! So CLING! CLING! To your lost dreams of the darkness!

Checking into Hotel Reality leaves you with NOTHING but the FACTS, America has REJECTED your twisted thinking and low Human Moral Fibre in favor of HIGH Moral beleifs and REAL LEADERSHIP!

PEACE...
m...

its like a poker game, one side has a deck of 54 cards and the other 52 with no jokers...

at least they are loosing the right way...

the people will have to intervene if the 2 party system cannot intervene the injustice in the white house...

Originally posted by Springer
You know based on what I read on this website, Thomas Crowne, Springer (that's me), Goregrinder and Fury are the ONLY non Democrat US Citizens around this BBS (If I missed anybody I appologise)... Bear with me here I am getting to something...

Taking the number of registered users, that equates to less than .03% of the population. Darn near every political post I read is all about how crooked the Republicans are and how "Most" of America is against the Republicans...

Well kids it shows me that YOU ALL are as OUT OF TOUCH with society as your favorite politicians are. This makes sense because you lap up their drivel and beleive the hyperbole and propaganda...

I say this because yesterday was an election in day places. The Republicans WON two MORE Governor's mansions! This combined with California would foreshadow a HUGE Republican victory in November if history is to be beleived...

I personally, am an independant and a centrist on social issues and a staunch conservative on fiscal issues. The biggest problem I have right now with the Democratic candidates is they have NO PLATFORM. THe ONLY thing I hear eminating from their jowels is how rotten and stupid Bush is. NO solutions, no fresh ideas, no nothing...

Damn shame if you ask me...

PEACE...
m...

[Edited on 11-5-2003 by Springer]

Dont forget me too! I hate the LEFTESTS! I AM A REPUBLICAN

but i lived is an area of california that had a large russian population, and most that i worked with that were russian were very conservative...

i think the russian immigrants that i worked with previously were more loyal to their previous dictators, rulers so in transition to america they had great faith in the powers that be inasmuch not to even question actions...

this is very damaging to the structure of democracy...

the funny thing is without the contribution made in the past with the civilrights movement and the democrats there would not be a russian influx to converse about...

GOOD, maybe they take some of the damn gun laws away. So we can arm up and take are damn country back and tell the republicans/democrats/and whoever to go f*ck off

Originally posted by Springer
You know based on what I read on this website, Thomas Crowne, Springer (that's me), Goregrinder and Fury are the ONLY non Democrat US Citizens around this BBS (If I missed anybody I appologise)... Bear with me here I am getting to something...

Taking the number of registered users, that equates to less than .03% of the population. Darn near every political post I read is all about how crooked the Republicans are and how "Most" of America is against the Republicans...

Well kids it shows me that YOU ALL are as OUT OF TOUCH with society as your favorite politicians are. This makes sense because you lap up their drivel and beleive the hyperbole and propaganda...

I say this because yesterday was an election in day places. The Republicans WON two MORE Governor's mansions! This combined with California would foreshadow a HUGE Republican victory in November if history is to be beleived...

I personally, am an independant and a centrist on social issues and a staunch conservative on fiscal issues. The biggest problem I have right now with the Democratic candidates is they have NO PLATFORM. THe ONLY thing I hear eminating from their jowels is how rotten and stupid Bush is. NO solutions, no fresh ideas, no nothing...

Damn shame if you ask me...

PEACE...
m...

[Edited on 11-5-2003 by Springer]

because you may be pro money and your cronies may be pro money does not mean those that are democratic are not pro money too...

You two MADE MY DAY!!!!!

Here's how...

Russian: YOU know what it's like to live in a LIBERAL, SOCIALIST Failure of a society and YOU have my UTMOST respect! You see it for what it is and REJECT IT. Do NOT listen to Bigsage's B.S. about your point of view being "harmful to a Democracy"! He has NEVER lived under tyranny (that I know of or he has EVER written of) and wants socialism here in the U.S. because he is OUT OF TOUCH with America just like his political heroes...

Glan: GUNS ARE GOOD! U R Da Man! For thinking about THAT part of our FOUNDING FATHER'S MANDATE!!!! Keep the population ARMED so they can deal their own cards any day they need to! Hell Yeah! Guns are NOT subversive in the hands of a PATRIOT but they SCARE the HELL out of NANCYBOY liberals! That's GOOD TOO!

PEACE...
m...

I live in CA, not sure where your from. But my Dad owns a gun shop here, and you would not believe the laws that are being passed damn near daily. There is a handfull that stand up and fight in a political way, but it does no good.

We have all this BULL# advertisement saying "Anyone can go to a Gunshow and purchase a gun" IT'S 100% complete bull#. If my dad sold a gun without the O.K from DOJ he would be out of business.

Furthermore I agree our founding fathers thought about a corrupt Gov't taking over and that's where our second amendment right comes from. I don't know what these people that keep passing these gun laws are thinking. There is more people killed by space heaters than by guns.

I can go on forever, but I just wanted to say I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this way......(or am I) hehe.

Glan

I live in Dallas but spent 7 years in Granada Hills (L.A. suburb) I KNOW f what you spek my man, it's infernal B.S.

PEACE...
m...