Iran's President To Visit UN!

Why would we let this person into our country. Even if he is the elected official of a foreign country, our president declared along time ago that the country was part of 'the axis of evil. What's wrong with video conference? I don't think we should give him the satisfaction of being treated like other foreign dignitaries that visit our country.

www.iranfocus.com...

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Iran is a member of the UN.
so they have the right to visit the place

Originally posted by infinite
Iran is a member of the UN.
so they have the right to visit the place

I understand that they belong to the UN, but so was Iraq. Would we have let Sadam speak to the general assembly in NY?

Originally posted by 2PacSade
Why would we let this person into our country. Even if he is the elected official of a foreign country...

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Pretty simple realy, he's the leader of a country that has a seat in the UN, therefore he is alllowed to come to the UN meetings.

The fact that your president thinks it's one of the countries of the "Axis of evil" doesn't have ANY value in the UN, this might be a suprise to some, but the USA doesn't "OWN" the UN. It's HQ just happen to be located in the USA...

Would we have let Sadam speak to the general assembly in NY?

I think so yes, i mean, your president let Collin Powell come present his fables about WMD's in Iraq, and what a great threat it posed to the world right there, right ?



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At the height of the Cold War, when the Soviets had thousands of nuclear warheads targeted at our cities, ready to launch at a moment's notice, Soviet leaders were visiting the UN.

No disagreement with Iran or it's President even comes close to that kind of threat.
So yeah, it's no big deal. It comes with the job of being host nation for the UN.

The post 9/11 hysteria over threats from the Middle East is almost comical, considering the very real threat of total destruction we faced during the Cold War.

Originally posted by XyZeR

Originally posted by 2PacSade
Why would we let this person into our country. Even if he is the elected official of a foreign country...

[edit on 7-9-2006 by 2PacSade]

[edit on 7-9-2006 by 2PacSade]

Pretty simple realy, he's the leader of a country that has a seat in the UN, therefore he is alllowed to come to the UN meetings.

The fact that your president thinks it's one of the countries of the "Axis of evil" doesn't have ANY value in the UN, this might be a suprise to some, but the USA doesn't "OWN" the UN. It's HQ just happen to be located in the USA...

Who would want to own it! (LOL) I agree with all these reasons, and the theory behind them. I question with what's going on right now, and the fact that he speaks of a world without Israel & the west, why we should let him in our country for any reason. He could do his business with the UN without coming here. He just wants a stage, which I think will be used as a tool to unite terrorist groups. Plus- He's gonna be a couple of streets over from a big hole in the ground that 5 years ago, had some buildings standing there. . . I just don't think it's right.

Would we have let Sadam speak to the general assembly in NY?

I think so yes, i mean, your president let Collin Powell come present his fables about WMD's in Iraq, and what a great threat it posed to the world right there, right ?

He didn't "let" him go, he was specifically "sent" because of his credibility. I think the prez thought that those "fables" would be much more believable coming from him. I think he was so embarrassed it caused him to quietly ride off into the sunset. Too bad- I thought he was gonna run for the presidency.

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Originally posted by xmotex
At the height of the Cold War, when the Soviets had thousands of nuclear warheads targeted at our cities, ready to launch at a moment's notice, Soviet leaders were visiting the UN.

Yes, but what good did it do? The climate was so "cold" that all that got accomplished was the banging of shoes and threats of "burying us"! Again- I think it's gonna be a stage for something like that again. He hasn't even complied with the recent requests of the UN, and like always, the UN is back peddling & totally passive in its response.

No disagreement with Iran or it's President even comes close to that kind of threat.
So yeah, it's no big deal. It comes with the job of being host nation for the UN.

They don't come close to that kind of threat? Again, he wants a world without us.

The post 9/11 hysteria over threats from the Middle East is almost comical, considering the very real threat of total destruction we faced during the Cold War.

If this guy gets nukes, he gonna use them, or give them to someone that will. IMO

Originally posted by infinite
Iran is a member of the UN.
so they have the right to visit the place

I agree they have a right to be there. But I do not have to listen to him or his rantings about the world better become muslim or die crap. Its just a political move by a mad man. You know what other country would let the person of hate into there own country. There is nothing to fear except fear itself.

Yes, but what good did it do? The climate was so "cold" that all that got accomplished was the banging of shoes and threats of "burying us"! Again- I think it's gonna be a stage for something like that again. He hasn't even complied with the recent requests of the UN, and like always, the UN is back peddling & totally passive in its response.

It's not a matter of "what good it will do"... the US is obligated to host these people, that's part of our responsibilities as host nation of the UN.

As far as what good it actually did, well we did manage not to have a global thermonuclear war. That might be seen by some as a good thing.

They don't come close to that kind of threat?

No, they certainly do not.
Call me when they've got thousands of mutimegaton warheads mounted on ICBM's like the Soviets did. Hell, call me when they've got one...

Again, he wants a world without us.

He's a demagouge and a religious zealot, on the other hand, I've seen no evidence he has any plans to create a "world without us", and certainly he has no means to do so.

Why do you people all feel the need to exaggerate the threat to ridiculous proportions? What desperate psychological need does it fill for you?

During the Cold War we faced a far more capable opponent, and one that was ideologically commited to our overthrow. The worst thing Iran seems to want is us out of the Middle East, if even that.

Originally posted by zman

Originally posted by infinite
Iran is a member of the UN.
so they have the right to visit the place

I agree they have a right to be there. But I do not have to listen to him or his rantings about the world better become muslim or die crap. Its just a political move by a mad man. You know what other country would let the person of hate into there own country. There is nothing to fear except fear itself.

I don't think many countries would be rolling out the red carpet if he specifically stated that he wanted them outta the picture. . . Let him go to the European HQ in Geneva. I just don't think its right for him to wine & dine in NYC right after the 5th anniversary of 911, and have the whole world see it also. He's a terrorist!

Originally posted by xmotex

Yes, but what good did it do? The climate was so "cold" that all that got accomplished was the banging of shoes and threats of "burying us"! Again- I think it's gonna be a stage for something like that again. He hasn't even complied with the recent requests of the UN, and like always, the UN is back peddling & totally passive in its response.

It's not a matter of "what good it will do"... the US is obligated to host these people, that's part of our responsibilities as host nation of the UN.

As far as what good it actually did, well we did manage not to have a global thermonuclear war. That might be seen by some as a good thing.

I know there were events leading up to it that had a bearing on the outcome, but I thought the reason we didn't have global thermonuclear war was that the Russian ships turned around at the last minute & didn't try to breach the US naval blockade?

They don't come close to that kind of threat?

No, they certainly do not.
Call me when they've got thousands of mutimegaton warheads mounted on ICBM's like the Soviets did. Hell, call me when they've got one...

Why should we wait till they have even one!!! If they do get one I don't think they'll have it for long though. It will probably be given to Hezbollah, and then sent via air mail to Israel.

Again, he wants a world without us.

He's a demagouge and a religious zealot, on the other hand, I've seen no evidence he has any plans to create a "world without us", and certainly he has no means to do so.

Why do you people all feel the need to exaggerate the threat to ridiculous proportions? What desperate psychological need does it fill for you?

During the Cold War we faced a far more capable opponent, and one that was ideologically commited to our overthrow. The worst thing Iran seems to want is us out of the Middle East, if even that.

If there's any desperate psychological need it is one of concern. History has proven that some of these people go on to become quite infamous. . .

If you got bit by a shark, wouldn't you be afraid of baby sharks? Because you know what a threat they can turn into someday. Just a thought. I do appreciate your input. thanx-

How do you know that the Iranian President is a terrorist. Coz bush told u or coz hes a muslim? Israel attacked lebanon and killed thousands. Who's the terrorist?

I say good for the Iranian President. It shows character in what he does, and if the Us was to sit down and actually have civil conversations with him things would be a helluva lot better than they are now. Matters would be solved. Even enemies could become friends if no real first blow was landed. And we should get the hell out of Iraq, and let Iran, and the rest of the middle east countries restore order. I'll bet anyone, anything that Iraq would be stabilized and showing immediate recooperation within 3 months. But, well hang out and take charge. (That's a joke)

2PacSide, stop the trolling, it's ridiculous. Seriously. Iran's president is a terrorist because Bush said it! Iraq had WMD because Bush said it!

Even if all the rhetoric wasn't rhetoric, I mean, with bases to stand on, like REAL nuclear weapons, they wouldn't be able to wipe out USA. It's just plain ignorant.

And they should move the UN headquarters elsewhere... and Bush/Ahmadinejad should have a real debate, it would be great.

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I'm not gunna go as far as to say Israels a terrorist. I think it might be a good thing hes coming here. MAYBE he can talk and explain the situation. These people arent madmen. They havent bombed the US, they havent even mentioned how much they like al queda, hell they might even hate them. So what if he's said some stuff. Bush called the war on terror a crusade. Bush is a religious man too. I personally think we should stop worrying about all of this middle east bullcrap and take a look at some domestic issues. If these people want us out so bad fine, we'll leave and we can help our own people out.

Baring the President of Iran from coming to the UN is like the Republicans baring the Democrats from attending a vote in Congress. The Republican's may not like the Democrat's policies, but they are entitled to a voice.

. But I do not have to listen to him or his rantings about the world better become muslim or die crap. Its just a political move by a mad man. You know what other country would let the person of hate into there own country.

Sorry mate, but that statement seems like it's cloaked in ignorance.

Please supply any sources where Iran's president has said "the world better become muslim or die"

You say "There is nothing to fear except fear itself." Yet you stoke the flames of fear with your unfounded claims. Be careful there..

Pretty sure that there is someone worse visiting the UN we just dont pay much attention to them via "media".

hmmm....i wonder who you are referring to...*cough*...bush...*cough*

Originally posted by half_minded
How do you know that the Iranian President is a terrorist. Coz bush told u or coz hes a muslim? Israel attacked lebanon and killed thousands. Who's the terrorist?

By his own words. Look at the previous posts. He is quoted as stating that he wants to get rid of Israel. . .

BTW- Israel didn't attack Lebanon, they went into Lebanon to get their soldiers back from Hezzbollah. The Lebanese government knows they're there, and does nothing about it. ( Probably due to the fact that some of the government officials belong to Hezzbollah. ). Why don't they clean up their own house and rid their country of this terrorist group? Then they won't be crossing the border & kidnapping Israeli soldiers.

I don't think Israel would be in Lebanon at all if this was taken care of.