k of c

you know there is alot of talk about the masons, why is it no one cares what the knights of columbus are up to?

KFC is a catholic order, and so has the blessings of the Vatican.

But you're right. No one asks about exactly what their "17 herbs and spices" include.

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Originally posted by doggmann
you know there is alot of talk about the masons, why is it no one cares what the knights of columbus are up to?

pbrez and chief counsellor are two members of ATS who are also Fourth Degree Knights of Columbus. I imagine they're up to pretty much the same thing the Masons are: pancake breakfasts, black tie banquets, and raising money for sick kids.

so why slam the masons? im sure if one were to look in to it , one would find kofc is many levels of government ,religion,and business, in fact they are more selective than the masons. does this constitute a conspiracy??

Originally posted by doggmann
so why slam the masons? im sure if one were to look in to it , one would find kofc is many levels of government ,religion,and business, in fact they are more selective than the masons. does this constitute a conspiracy??

I think probably because the KofC is under most people's radar. Masonry has been around centuries, is international, so there's a lot of history and controversy that been built up over time. KofC exists in America only, is much younger, and is much smaller in membership. If it were to become bigger and get more publicity, I'm sure it would start making detractors too.

but it was established to counteract the masonic lodges, just for fun ask a kofc what the initiation rite is for the degrees and see what he says

IM A KC and your right:

Prayer, Service projects, Pancake breakfasts, bingos to rais money for kids, hurrican rebuilding projects. Thats about what we do.


And its a secert society thats why we cant tell you what the inniation rites are. WHen they are done right though its verry powerful.

no consparicy in the KC's

I don't know about the K of C but I can defineately reveal that the SMOM were involved with the CIA and also the Opus Dei.

I hate christian's just as much as I loathe the Papist One Money One God Conspiracy.

I hate liberalism that is liberalism for big money's sake. If god is all about money then we can throw it away, biggest land owner's in history full stop.

Just a buncha men meeting in secret.

but the question remains if the kc is just a bunch of pancake eating card playing nice guys, why are the masons concidered secret rulers of the world? what good for the goose is good for the gander

Originally posted by doggmann
you know there is alot of talk about the masons, why is it no one cares what the knights of columbus are up to?

But don't forget the Catholic Knights of America, the Ancient Order of Hibernians, the Catholic Order of Foresters, the Knights of Peter Claver.

Seems the Catholic Church isn't so much against secret fraternal organizations after all. Perhaps this is a Vatican-organized plot. Perhaps orchestrated by high-level Masons who've secretly infiltrated the RCC (like I did some years ago)

As for non-Catholic Orders, don't leave out the Independent Order of Odd Fellows, or the Grand United Order of Odd Fellows, the Knights of Pythias, the Grangers, the United Order of Druids, the Woodmen of the World, the Modern Woodmen of America, et cetera.

Why ISN'T anyone overly interested in these groups? Sure Masonry is older, but perhaps these groups are up to something while the Masons are used as a diversion.

(removing tongue from cheek)

good point but even then you had to throw in the term high ranking masons, how about high ranking knights of columbus infiltrating the masonic order and causeing coruption through out the world??????

Originally posted by doggmann
good point but even then you had to throw in the term high ranking masons, how about high ranking knights of columbus infiltrating the masonic order and causeing coruption through out the world??????

Well, we'd have to define "high ranking Knights of Columbus" There are only Four Degrees and the Fourth Degree is given with wives and non-members present, so I guess the "highest" would be the Third. Unless there's a Fifth Degree that no one except those who oppose the Catholic Church know about.

im not following you, there is no higher degree in masonry than the first three but no one seems to listen to that answer.like wise you seem to pass off the kofc as harmless. maybe they are and maybe so are the masons

Originally posted by doggmann
im not following you, there is no higher degree in masonry than the first three

Well, technically there's no "higher" degree than the third (Master Mason) Master Mason is indeed higher than Fellow Craft (second) and Fellow Craft higher than Entered Apprentice (first) but I do understand what you meant. Just because someone is a 32nd Degree, a 32nd Degree K.C.C.H. or even a 33rd Degree Scottish Rite Mason he is NOT a "higher" degree (despite the higher number) than a Master Mason.

but no one seems to listen to that answer.

Well, people who are adamanty against the Masonic fraternity have already made up their mind and typically do not wish to be confused by actual facts. 'tis a sad comment on human nature.

like wise you seem to pass off the kofc as harmless. maybe they are and maybe so are the masons

Well, I've never HEARD anything evil about the Knights of Columbus. Have you? They seem like a nice enough bunch of guys, I've considered joining them myself, but really do not have the time to do it. Who knows, they might be an evil, subversive group, but it's yet to be seen, so I see no reason to consider them anything BUT harmless.

I mean, really, my next door neighbor seems like a pretty nice guy, so I see no reason to suspect him of axe-murdering.

Do YOU know something sinister about the K of C? I'd be interested to know.

As for Masons, I'm sure there are some who are bad. I've met several that I truly do not like, but it doesn't make the organization itself bad, just the individual. Same could probably be said about the K of C.

Originally posted by Appak

Originally posted by doggmann
good point but even then you had to throw in the term high ranking masons, how about high ranking knights of columbus infiltrating the masonic order and causeing coruption through out the world??????

Well, we'd have to define "high ranking Knights of Columbus" There are only Four Degrees and the Fourth Degree is given with wives and non-members present, so I guess the "highest" would be the Third. Unless there's a Fifth Degree that no one except those who oppose the Catholic Church know about.

How disappointing. You mean there's no such thing as a 33º KOC?

It's a cover-up/conspiracy... I don't believe you... etc... etc...

Didn't the KOC assassinate Kennedy because he learned to much about the Higher Ranking Knights?

And what about the gtdgjfjksdh?

fzzzzz... pop

*Brain explodes with conspiracy overload*

To clarify a few things about the Knights of Columbus, it is in fact an international order with just over 1.7 Million members worldwide. It is comprised of practical Catholic men over the age of 18.

Our first principle is charity, which is the bulk of the work we do. Raising money for the various local charities within our cities. We also have donated money for Katrina, and Sept 11th, and help when there is a national disastor like that.

You can learn a lot more on Supreme Councils website www.kofc.org...

The 4th degree exemplification ceremony is only attended by 4th degree Knights. There is a dinner that the wives can come to after the ceremony, but the actual degree is only for members. There is also a program for the wives while the degree is going on.

John F. Kennedy was a 4th degree Knight of Columbus, and the Knights did not assasinate him.

The Knights of Columbus are about living out the Catholic ideals and corporal works of mercy, especially towards charity. We donate hundreds of millions and more worldwide, and also millions of hours of volunteer work orderwide.

I don't think you hear of people talking about conspiracies in the K of C because there are none.

However, here is a list of important men who are KNights

en.wikipedia.org...


[edit on 1-9-2006 by chief_counsellor]

Originally posted by chief_counsellor
The 4th degree exemplification ceremony is only attended by 4th degree Knights. There is a dinner that the wives can come to after the ceremony, but the actual degree is only for members.

chief_counsellor

Sorry to correct you but I have attended the conferral of the 4th Degree along with the wife of the member receiving it. It was the degree itself, not a program for wives or a dinner. It was explained that the degree was given publicly to give wives and potential members an idea what the Knights of Columbus is all about.

This is not a new idea, the Shriners started doing this a while back. The Shrine Ceremonial is also given in the presence of wives and prospective Shriners.

I don't think you hear of people talking about conspiracies in the K of C because there are none.

I think it's because they're too busy talking about the non-existant conspiracies that the Masons are involved in myself. Keep a close eye on the anti's, they might get bored with Masonry (or "masonary" as Pepsi calls it) and turn on 'ya!

Originally posted by Appak

chief_counsellor

Sorry to correct you but I have attended the conferral of the 4th Degree along with the wife of the member receiving it. It was the degree itself, not a program for wives or a dinner. It was explained that the degree was given publicly to give wives and potential members an idea what the Knights of Columbus is all about.

(or "masonary" as Pepsi calls it) and turn on 'ya!

I attend the 4th degree exemplification almost every year. In Canada, the 4th degree ceremony is strictly for members. Maybe they do it differently in your part of the US.

[edit on 1-9-2006 by chief_counsellor]

Originally posted by chief_counsellor
John F. Kennedy was a 4th degree Knight of Columbus, and the Knights did not assasinate him.

Hmph. That's just what a 4th degree KoC assassin WOULD say!

Obviously, you're up to no good, and whatnot!

Originally posted by Masonic Light
pbrez and chief counsellor are two members of ATS who are also Fourth Degree Knights of Columbus. I imagine they're up to pretty much the same thing the Masons are: pancake breakfasts, black tie banquets, and raising money for sick kids.

Shhhhhhhh, Those are cherished secrets!

Knight of Columbus, 4th Degree as well.