NTSB Released animation.... Im speechless.(Pentagon hit)

www.freespeechwar.com...


OK watch that clip, and then tell me what the hell was going down that day! Is there any way that this could wrong??? This is from the black box recordings, and this is their demo of the flight....

So is it a whistle blower trying to get the word out??



(Click the play button on the animation)

[edit on 29-8-2006 by D4rk Kn1ght]

Hmmmmm it seem a little to good you know, it very possible. I think it real but why something like this would be released?

Uh, why WOULDN'T it be? Hasn't everyone been screaming for the information from the black boxes? Well here it is. Too bad it had the idiot comments put in it. I'd hardly call that a "smooth" flight that everyone claims it was. That control yoke was all over the place the entire time.

Zaphod ..............


Dude.......


Im speechless at what you just said... Your complaining about the yoke movements?? its like descended nice and smooth, ok needs a little correction now and again, but if it was a human on board why not just dive right at it like they could of?? That long sweeping curve, final adjustments...and then bang hits the pentagon.... That was real smooth nice control...

AND MISSES ALL THOSE LAMP POSTS............

What's the altitude where the Pentagon is located?

Don't forget to add 15-20 feet for the impact point.

That wasn't smooth. I've seen smooth, I've FLOWN smooth. He was correcting constantly the entire way down. As for diving straight down, I've said it before, that's one of the hardest manuvers to make, especially in a big plane like a 757.

That was no amature with no flight experience flying that plane - no way on Gods earth was it.

That was a good, well controlled descent into the Pentagon - who ever was flying or what ever was in control had that covered all the way in. Yes he did use the yoke, but he did also do what no untrained person could do - turn that baby round, dead reckon his area, and still hit the pentagon. Any amature would of lost it on the first turn in a multi engined craft. That was a good manual professional turn.

OR it was guided in by a remote unit. Which ever it was, that was nice flying.

Doesn't seem to jive with this statement:

www.ntsb.gov...

The terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 are under the jurisdiction of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The Safety Board provided requested technical assistance to the FBI, and any material generated by the NTSB is under the control of the FBI. The Safety Board does not plan to issue a report or open a public docket.

NTSB Related Releases

Research people... Research.

So thats all made up? Nice find Mod!

Is there actual proof that this was released by the NTSB?

I just would like an actual source other than someones website, cause someone could have made that on some computer prgm.

I would like an actual news source or their site if possible.

Originally posted by D4rk Kn1ght
but if it was a human on board why not just dive right at it like they could of??

Again and again...
Dive run was considered rather hard thing to do even in a specialised aircrafts back in times when divebombing was the only known means of delivering bombs precisely on target.
Even in these specialised aircrafts, when novice pilots flown them, they were advised or ordered NOT TO dive and rather to perform either low-level attack or attack from a slow descent.
Want examples? Henderson's green pilots at Midway or Japanese Kamikaze.
And that was with dive bombers. With aircrafts NOT designed for dive runs only elite units used to attack - on special occassions - in a dive run.
Dive attack isn't as simple as it seems. At least according to military flight instructors from times when dive attacks were much more frequent than today.

Btw does the author of that animation think F-15's and F-16's have hyperdrive? Otherwise he doesn't have a clue about intercept times

Flight paths of three of the flights have been released according to this site.

www.rawstory.com

Mod Edit: Truncated Link Of Great Length.

[edit on 29/8/2006 by Mirthful Me]

Firefox can't find the server at www.freespeechwar.com.

And neither can IE.

Works for everyone else I presume?

But then again, what's all that about NTSB not releasing anything at all? (Thanks mirthful me)

The fact that the plane was 2 high to hit the light poles is still the most important part of this vid. Can any one think of an explanation that would explain this, other than the obvious (the official story is a lie) theory?

911research.wtc7.net...
Authorities have claimed that all but the voice recorder on Flight 93 were either not recovered or too damaged to yield data. The black boxes of Flight 77 were allegedly found on September 14th, but yielded "nothing useful" according to FBI director Robert Mueller. 1 Â 2 Â

If we read this then data from flight 77 is to damaged for recovery and what has been recovered? Yielded Nothing Useful. Strrange remarks from the FBI.

As the not confirmed data from the NTSB and why would the NTSB give pretty vital information out to a conspiracy site and not to the 911 commission to include into its report. There has to be a Freedom of Information release letter to get this type of film, yet there it is free to everyone.

The storage medium of each recorder is located in a protective capsule, which must be able to withstand an impact of 3,400 Gs (3,400 times the force of gravity). Additionally, each must also survive flames at 2,000 F for up to 30 minutes, and submersion in 20,000 feet of saltwater for 30 days. Typically, to increase their chances of survival, the recorders are located in the tail section of the aircraft, which usually sustains the least impact in a crash.

Know lets look at the requirement of blackboxes, we see that they are typically placed in the tails of planes. Yet, we find no trace of a tail section of flight 77 inside or outside the pentagon. We also have no indication of a tail section imacting the pentagon unless one thinks catscratchers metal to liquid to metal theory is real.
The socalled video on that site showing the movements prior to impact can only be considered as information to move people away from real answers. Until it is proven to be released by the NTSB along with letters and I might add the envelope it came in!!!

I still would like to know if this is real. So far I havent heard anything. If this video is real as they claim it to be, this should be in ATSNN at least, and on mainstream news.

In either case it isnt. So what is it.. Real or not??

Originally posted by Nightmare0
The fact that the plane was 2 high to hit the light poles is still the most important part of this vid. Can any one think of an explanation that would explain this, other than the obvious (the official story is a lie) theory?

Yeah, right off the top of my head a second explanation would be...this is a lie? It's the Yooks and the Zooks argument, until we get more information.

Originally posted by tuccy
Btw does the author of that animation think F-15's and F-16's have hyperdrive? Otherwise he doesn't have a clue about intercept times

No, they do not need hyperdrive. The plane hit the pentagon 50 minutes after the first plane hit the world trade center. and almost 40 minutes after the second plane hit. And well over an hour after the first one was hijack confirmed.

Since andrews airforce base is 10 miles from DC, the planes wouldnt have needed to break the sound barrier to get over washington dc.

After two planes had crashed into the world trade center, the air force had almost 40 minutes to get some protection over DC, which is pretty standard when possible disasters or threats hit US soil. Hell, even if they had dispatched them from langley down in Virginia, 170 miles to the south, the F-16s would have had more than enough time to get to DC.

Flight 77 first started behaving strangely right about when the first plane hit the world trade center.

They had over 40 minutes to react.

I would like to see the source of this paticular video, however. from my understanding, wasnt it said that the black box from the Pentagon had been too wiped out for use?

And the planes at Andrews AFB were not armed on 9/11. The alert force had undergone a MAJOR reduction in the 1990s, with Andrews being one of them that was removed from the force. There were 21 planes armed that day, with two over NY from Otis AFB, Langley would have been the nearest base, but they would have had to have a target to launch them. They don't just launch them and have them loiter over an area just in case.