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astronaut says"alien space craft under observation" ??

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posted on Aug, 29 2006 @ 12:43 AM
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I think this a real event..problem NASA will denied like prank or that astronaut was joking..or some mispelling word... NASA have been caught with their pants down many times..and this time is going to be the same..denied...and move on...

Sorry folks good piece of evidence..but against nasa words you cant do much to prove and nasa spokeman said " yes the ship was folllowed by an alien aircraft..ups sorry did we mention before alien do exists???"...

nice evidence..long fight...until who knows when...



posted on Aug, 29 2006 @ 05:08 AM
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I made a clip where you hear the sentence repeated several times and then time stretched. To me it sounds like it's doctored. You clearly hear some sort of beep excatly at the beginning of the word "alien". It sounds like it was compiled out of several words, or they cut out a part - to make it sound like "alien spacecraft"

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posted on Aug, 29 2006 @ 08:11 PM
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instead of lookling for the owrd alien this the word orbital, after a couple more times hearing it thats what i think it says



posted on Aug, 29 2006 @ 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by errorist
I made a clip where you hear the sentence repeated several times and then time stretched. To me it sounds like it's doctored. You clearly hear some sort of beep excatly at the beginning of the word "alien". It sounds like it was compiled out of several words, or they cut out a part - to make it sound like "alien spacecraft"

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hmmm thats the way to do it! maybe it was cut down from another word? what words could they have said that could be cut down to sound like "alien"?

actually after a while it almost sounds like "indian" space craft. did india have any kind of space program going on at the time? satelites?


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[edit on 8/29/2006 by homeskillet]


RR

posted on Aug, 29 2006 @ 10:56 PM
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I put this EXACT topic up a few days ago and got nothing:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I guess clique mentality has COMPLETLEY taken over this once great site, see ya around...



posted on Aug, 30 2006 @ 01:35 AM
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Im a sound engineer in my spare time, after work i will clean, EQ, maximize and Dehiss the audio so we can better study it.



posted on Aug, 30 2006 @ 03:29 AM
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Originally posted by RR
I put this EXACT topic up a few days ago and got nothing:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I guess clique mentality has COMPLETLEY taken over this once great site, see ya around...


Personally, the reason I didn't bother posting in that thread (or posting earlier in this thread) is nothing to do with cliques but instead is related to the fact that the same audio clip has been posted repeatedly on ATS in recent weeks.

The other relevant threads recently posted on ATS in relation to exactly the same audio clip include:

Recording Of Astronaut UFO Encounter.

and
Astronaut heard saying "We still have the alien space craft under observance"**Audio Only**.

As I mentioned in those threads, the relevant audio clip was released to the UFO community by Donald Ratsch (see the July 1989 issue of the MUFON Journal). Ratsch stated that he recorded the relevant audio via his audio scanner "from the space shuttle Discovery through WA3NAN, the club station of the Goddard Amateur Radio Club at Greenbelt, Md, transmitting on 147.450 MHZ".

Ratsch has subsequently stated that he heard the same voice saying something similar a year later (when the shuttle crew was different).

Thus, Ratsch concluded that "the target voice was a hoax probably from an amateur radio operator".

In other words, the person that recorded the audio clip does NOT believe that it was the voice of an astronaut or a transmission from a shuttle mission. Instead, he believes that it is a hoax.

See, for example, James Oberg's email on Updates here.

All the best,

Isaac Koi



posted on Aug, 30 2006 @ 03:59 AM
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SPACE SHUTTLE DISCOVERY 03/14/89 6:42 EST "Uh Houston, this is Discovery. We still have the alien spacecraft under (observance)????" (note
last word difficult to make out on tape).The previous statement was recorded by Baltimore resident Donald Ratsch (MUFON member) from a HAM radio
rebroadcast between the space shuttle Discovery and Houston ground control. The HAM broadcast was direct from the shuttle without going through the
delayed filter used on the official NASA public feed. The NASA select audio channel did not contain this one way broadcast from the shuttle to ground
control. The HAM station making the rebroadcast was WA3NAN Goddard Amateur Radio Club in Greenbelt, MD transmitting on 147.450 MHZ. Preliminary
analysis shows that the voice could be either Michael Coats (Commander) or John E. Blaha (pilot). The recording was sent for further expert voice
analysis the results of which are unknown at this time to the author.



Preliminary analysis shows that the voice could be either Michael Coats (Commander) or John E. Blaha (pilot).



This quote was introduced in probably more than one thread, but there is a compulation of a lot of quotes in a thread entitled:

The most Credible Quotes concerning UFOs. Astronauts, World Leaders, Scientists ...








[edit on 30-8-2006 by Esoteric Teacher]



posted on Aug, 30 2006 @ 01:07 PM
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Can anyone try to get a clearer audio clip by running it through an equalizer?


TrentReeznor to the Rescue!!!, But don't ever call me a DJ


I'll run it through some Multiband compressors , De-ess Hi-pass filters and Clean it up.

stay tuned



posted on Aug, 30 2006 @ 01:24 PM
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This one comes up all the time.

The reason regulars wont respond to it anymore is that it has been pretty well demonstrated that the man who ORIGINALLY documented the incident heard the same voice make the same statement on two shuttle flights with different crews. He concluded it was a hoax from somone out there transmitting with their ham radio.

I can't back that claim up with proof, though. You would have to see the posts the guy made on the old BBs and then talk to him yourself. You decide if it is worth pursuing. But be aware that the original claimant withdrew his claim and declared it to be a likely hoax.



posted on Aug, 30 2006 @ 01:58 PM
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Since this is the ATS web site...

Lets assume that the military recovered advanced technology back in the late 40's.
That is not to much of a stretch for most people here to believe.
Now when confronted with this frightning possible threat, just after completing a Major World War, and some scary stuff the Germans were investigating, It's not a stretch to understand that our military would have a strong need to Centralize this new intelligence into a super secret organization. Then within this organization, subdivide and create a ultra secret BlackOps section, tasked with learning, reverse engineering and discovering all the knowledge possible about this new technology/threat.

Now lets look at the timeline from when the US publicly decided to join the space race till we landed on the Moon. (1963-1969) Six years!

Now lets look back at the Black Ops section exploring their task. Do you think its possible that they could have suceeded in uncovering some amazing technology for extremely high speed travel in the atmosphere and beyond, inside of 10 years? Say 1957?

Assume this is our first space program (ultra secret) and they are busy exploring this new technology, funneling less critical tech to the new NASA organization, Now our public organization is task with a space race and will be piercing the boundry previously being explored by our Primary Space Program. All the astronaughts are military men. Men which could have been instructed to ignore anything they see in high earth orbit. Men prone to excitement at seeing something new and unexpected.

After one or two such incidents it would them become important no to have any "live" transmissions, but tape delay. In order to avoid any accidental disclosures. Any that did get out could be shuttled to the fringe of UFO sighting and typical mis-information techniques. Tapes can be lost. Video footage that may have caught something can be lost or sanatized. Live footage presents the largest problem.

This is all just conjecture, but the idea of having a Primary Space Exploration program that preceeds NASA would go along way towards explaining many odd things. Not the least of which is why we never returned to the moon after 1972.

Can you just imagine the level of technology we would have in releation to space travel if the Public Program (NASA) kept pushing the envelope outwards after 1972? We would have at least 3 times the tech and expertise we had back in 1969!
Then think..."what if we do have another high tech space program?" How far could they have come since 1947?

Just a thought



posted on Aug, 30 2006 @ 02:14 PM
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Its true. We could be doing a lot better in space expertise than we are. But if you believe NASA and some military stuff is really the forefront, we just haven't been dedicated to it enough to push ahead, as you say.

On the other hand, this makes absolutely no strategic sense to me, so I assume the military is far more advanced in this field than we know. Why would they just sit around and wait for some other nation to develop space supremecy? They wouldn't.

Anyways, I'd share rocket technology with China if it was now effectively irrelevant! GO IRIDIUM! Go BEJING!



posted on Aug, 30 2006 @ 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by Ectoterrestrial
On the other hand, this makes absolutely no strategic sense to me, so I assume the military is far more advanced in this field than we know. Why would they just sit around and wait for some other nation to develop space supremecy? They wouldn't.


What makes you think they are just sitting around?


If our technology is much more advanced that what is publically percieved, then where is the threat?

If I follow this idea out a ways, I'd feel safe in predicting that NO OTHER NATION will ever make it back to the moon.



posted on Aug, 30 2006 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by Ectoterrestrial
But be aware that the original claimant withdrew his claim and declared it to be a likely hoax.



Additionally, I'm surprised that no one here has seen the big words "OASIS" in the mish briefing.

Someone mentioned right at the beginning of the word there was a beep. That would have covered the "Oh" sound, leaving the hard "wAy" sound followed by "sIs"...

Now what other word has those same two exact vowell sounds?

"Ay"-(lee)-"In" ...Alien.

Though I haven't listened to the audio, it's pretty clear from the replies that the sound quality is poor, and it would be very easy to mistake an beep-interrupted "Oasis" for "Alien". Especially if you're someone who really wants to hear "Alien".

Try listening to it again (I'm at work, so I can't). Is there any possible way they were saying "Oasis" and got the first part of the word beeped out by an instrument panel?



posted on Aug, 30 2006 @ 02:46 PM
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I don't think so. The audio is clear. There is no way that he is saying anything else.

The claim is that the audio source is a terrestrial ham operator playing a prank. This has been known to happen from time to time.

The question is, is it? The only way to know would be to get comments from the original observer. Supposedly, he figured out it was a prank and withdrew the claim. But it has continued to circle the Internet ever since, anyways.

Red_Dog, I think I must have just got confused by your post. I think we are both saying the same thing.

What I was saying is that it "appears" that we have advanced little in space technology in 30 years. Yet for some very odd reason we arranged business and government to allow the Chinese to learn rocketry some rocketry secrets through their business/managerial participation in the Iridium system (now owned by the US government after they went broke.)

Assume keeping on the forefront of the space tech is of US National Security Interest.
Given that Congress said that giving the rocket tech to China was no big deal, we can only assume therefore, that the rocket tech is no longer of national security interest.

So the military probably does have extensive capabilities beyond what we know about.

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posted on Aug, 30 2006 @ 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by Ectoterrestrial
The claim is that the audio source is a terrestrial ham operator playing a prank. The question is, is it? The only way to know would be to get comments from the original observer. Supposedly, he figured out it was a prank and withdrew the claim.


An email from the "original observer" (i.e. Donald Ratsch) was the source of most of the information I gave above (and in other recent threads about the same audio clip) about why Donald Ratsch concluded that this was a hoax.

My post also included a link to a copy of Donald Ratsch's email.

All the best,

Isaac



posted on Aug, 30 2006 @ 02:57 PM
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What's so hard to accept. There are aliens, and we were observing an alien space craft.



posted on Aug, 30 2006 @ 03:19 PM
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Thanks Isaac.

I'm too lazy to go get the sources. But that's the basic story as the community knows it. So you all can follow up on it and draw your own conclusions.

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posted on Aug, 30 2006 @ 03:20 PM
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we are surrounded by clowns and most of them are here on ats
this only shows we hear what we want send in the clowns!



posted on Aug, 30 2006 @ 06:40 PM
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Maybe for someone that do not have english has his native language, understending the tape could be easyer, i am portuguese, and i listen with out a doubt "Alien". if ti is a prank our not, that i don't know!



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