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“Early confusion over who was in charge of the [WTC collapse] site and the lack of authority of investigators to impound pieces of steel for examination before they were recycled led to the loss of important pieces of evidence that were destroyed early during the search and rescue effort. ... Some of the critical pieces of steel—including the suspension trusses from the top of the towers and the internal support columns—were gone before the first BPAT [Building Performance Assessment Team] team member ever reached the site”(see September 12-October 2001). Furthermore, “The building owners, designers and insurers, prevented independent researchers from gaining access—and delayed the BPAT team in gaining access—to pertinent building documents largely because of liability concerns.” Regarding the decision to rapidly recycle the WTC steel, Rep. Joseph Crowley (D) says, “I do believe that conspiracy theorists are going to have a field day with this,” and says this loss of important physical evidence “is not only unfortunate, it is borderline criminal.” In his statement before the committee, Glenn Corbett, a science professor at John Jay College, claims that the “lack of significant amounts of steel for examination will make it difficult, if not impossible, to make a definitive statement as to the cause and chronology of the collapse.” He also complains, “we are staffing the BPAT with part-time engineers and scientists on a shoestring budget.” [US Congress, 3/6/2002; Associated Press, 3/7/2002]
Originally posted by Astygia
If you've got a source that can clear this bit up for me, I'd appreciate it.
The provenience of the WTC dust sample is an apartment at 113
Cedar Street in New York City, NY.
A monument constructed primarily from structural steel from the
WTC Towers located at Clarkson University in Potsdam, New York,
is the source of previously-molten metal samples. Results from
these studies were presented at the 2006 meeting of the Utah
Academy of Science followed by the American Scholars
Symposium (Los Angeles)… The research continues.”
Originally posted by denythestatusquo
Annother diversion here and I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet..
What if the steel used to build the towers was not up to grade in the first place? The towers were unique in their day requiring special steel that was not that common nor used much before that time. What if Davey Rock(efeller..) had buddies produce weak steel for a greater profit knowing that the towers would have to come down later on anyways?
Just a thought.
Originally posted by denythestatusquo
What if the steel used to build the towers was not up to grade in the first place? The towers were unique in their day requiring special steel that was not that common nor used much before that time. What if Davey Rock(efeller..) had buddies produce weak steel for a greater profit knowing that the towers would have to come down later on anyways?
Originally posted by Griff
Why does everyone get afraid when a moderator comes in? It's funny...we are haveing a great discussion...let's keep it up.
On topic: I can't wait till this paper is reviewed and published in a real paper by his peers.
Originally posted by esdad71
www.ksdk.com...
Here is 20 tons of steel to test from the WTC. Conspriacy and cover up, nope, just go to Kentucky. I mean, even Steve Jones has google, right? it did not ALL go to China, but alot did. They are the largest user of steel in the world right now. I seem to also remember one made into a warship.
Originally posted by esdad71
You believe he did (got a link?). C'mon now, I am jsut supposed to believe you.
There is no chain of evidence needed if the city asked for it, it was shipped, and it has sat there. Are you now trying to say the steel that was shipped is not from the WTC?
[edit on 8-9-2006 by esdad71]
Originally posted by Slap Nuts
why won't you address the 1,3-diphenylpropane WHICH DOES have a reliabel chain of custody as it is right out of the mouth of the EPA?
Originally posted by Griff
Is athermitic reaction the only thing that will produce this? Real question.
Originally posted by Griff
I'm probably the worst at searching the web for info. I can't find anytype of source for this compound. Not even what you said Slap Nuts. Anyone a chemist out there?
Originally posted by Slap Nuts
Howardroark will try to say that it is a by-product of burning plastic and this is NOT TRUE. LAbtop set him straight in an old thread on here... For some reason 'search' sucks for me on this site so maybe if you search "diphenylpropane" you can find it.
[edit on 11-9-2006 by Slap Nuts]