Carmakes must tell comsumer about "black boxes"

Safety experts contend 2/3 of automobiles contain these so called black boxes. GM have these boxes in all new vehcles.

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The rules governing auto recorders, which are similar to the "black boxes" that store information about mechanical flight systems on commercial airliners, are intended to give law enforcement, emergency medical personnel, auto companies and safety regulators a minimum set of mechanical measurements in the seconds leading up to and during a crash.

Under the new rules, auto recorders must track vehicle speed, acceleration, and deceleration, braking, steering and some air bag functions. In some cases data on vehicle roll angle, steering inputs, and passenger safety belt use will be recorded.

In my own opinion, I am surprised how the automakers and insurance companies where able to keep this secret for so long. I feel this is just another tool for Big Brother to watch us,(or watch over us).

[edit on 22-8-2006 by Master_Wii]

wait until you drive to fast and they can lock your doors and auto-drive you right to the police station. you know its comming! anyone know what the law is about removing the boxes?

btw, i heard all these little black boxes are supposed to blow up on Aug 22.

insurance companies in the uk have been trying to get younger drivers to have these retro fitted claiming it will reduce their insurance cost's , didnt know they were being fitted as standard though, what with all the cctv cameras snooping on e-mails and similar it really is becomeing more like 1984 every single day

my favorite thing to ever come out of Canada are Bait Cars. if any americans dont know what these are, they are cars left out to be stolen. the catch is they are wired with video, audio and gps recording equipiment as well as automatic locks. its really funny to see the looks on these kids faces when they realize they just stole a bait car.

www.baitcar.com...

theres the link, watch the videos, dont steal cars.

[edit on 8/22/2006 by bokinsmowl]

Keep a large magnet in your glove box, if you get in an accident, erase the blackboxes data if you were disobeying traffic laws by placing the magnet on the box.
The coppers & insurance companies will get zero data.

so where do they usually locate them? im assuming it taps into the cars ecu, but the ecu is in a different locations on most cars and its usually not easily accessible. im sure they're not going to just be out in the open to readliy be mag-wiped, not to mention they would probobly be put into special boxes to keep this from happening inadvertantly during a crash.

One of the arguments put forward for GPS enabled black boxes in new cars was to enable insurance companies to tailor peoples individual premiums, based on mileage and style of driving. Of course, anyone with the correct access software could aslo track us everywhere we go.

Just another step towards total control and monitoring where we are all presumed guilty of something and must be treated like criminals every minute of the day.

I really cant see any benefits other than the usual invasion of prvacy concerns.
These black boxes should be for child pedophiles and the likes, not your everyday American citizen.

all part of the socialist drive to the new world order.

We will watch your every move - no dissent will be tolerated, you will comply.

Or die.

It will be that simple in the very near future.

Oh and by the way, the no dissent will be tolerated is a direct qoute from a US Marine during exercise within a civilian population with America. They wanted to suprise the locals, and did so by having armed troops and roads blocks...

See prison planet for the whole story - its a gas of a read if your into martial law.

Originally posted by Master_Wii
I really cant see any benefits other than the usual invasion of prvacy concerns.

Oh really you can’t huh? Well then to all that are paranoid let me give you one example.

You get in a car crash and the other driver dies, some people say you were speeding or that you didn’t brake etc… And if found guilt you could be facing some serious prison time. However because your car and the other drives car both have these "black boxes" investigators find out that he was the one speeding and that you couldn’t avoid the accident even though you tried. And now you won’t go to prison and you might not have to pay higher insurance fees since the accident wasn’t your fault. But according to some it has to be the ever evil "Big Brother", it has to for tracking and spying, oh my NWO… gees. I swear, some people.