an experiment: how to notice an agent of the matrix...

your idol threats are senseless...
one cannot open the eyes of disbelievers...

"men are no more fools than they are naturally wise yet the distinction of such can be observed by ones own choices"..bigsage...

here is where faith is necessary for the "system" will attepmt to sway one with fear, dont fear for that is their only power,your fear...
so you want me to explain the method to this worlds madness, comon get real you have eyes...

[Edited on 2-11-2003 by bigsage]

[Edited on 2-11-2003 by bigsage]

hot damn william, you're gonna lock the topic? Why would you do that, I mean, its not like its really hurting anyone here. At least let bigsage have his musings, everyone does that at one time or another. I know you are supreme authority here and I wouldn't want to be stepping on your toes, but have some fun and at least let him say what he wants. It is within context of his topic that he started.

Originally posted by bigsage
people it is not really that difficult to see the truth when you believe...

What is the truth, according to you?

and i am not here to discern whose faith is apparent...

huh?

when one imposes their will uppon another thats an action...

Who is imposing whom's will upon who?


when one allows one to existunder their own free will that is also an action...

No disrespect, but this statement does not make sense. We will need further clarification.

look back and reread the actions taken by many as simple forms of disinformation...

Who have taken what actions?

and just because william is involved that does not change my stance he is man as i...

am..?

just because persons can see my name and stats does not change my stance as well either...

What exactly is your stance?

move with faith not fear...

ats has been infiltrated
posters have been assimilated
Q;.. By what ?
agents" of counterpropoganda
Q:.. dont they make it much more fun ?
peoples you must wake up and open your eyes and use your ears to discren the difference between those who impose their will upon you or those who allow you to make decisions with your own free will....
Q:..Does this envolve some sort of mind controll ?
Q:..Why are you obscuring you name.. if the gov. wants your ass they gocha whenever they want ?

If you have any concrete nF0 id be interested in hearing it
Im shure that Eschelon tracks a lot of posts
here are some words to overload the system

Explosives, guns, assassination, conspiracy, primers,
detonators, initiators, main charge, nuclear charges,
ambush, sniping, motorcade, IRS, BATF, jtf-6, mjtf,
hrt, srt, hostages, munitions, weapons, TNT, rdx,
amfo, hmtd, picric acid, silver nitrite, mercury
fulminate, presidential motorcade, salt peter,
charcoal, sulfur, c4, composition b, amatol, petn,
lead azide, lead styphante, ddnp, tetryl,
nitrocellulose, nitrostarch, mines, grenades, rockets,
fuses, delay mechanism, mortars, rpg7, propellants,
incendiaries, incendiary device, thermite, security
forces, intelligence, agencies, hrt, resistance,
psyops, infiltration, assault team, defensive
elements, evasion, detection, mission, communications,
the football, platter charge, shaped charges, m118,
claymore, body armor, charges, shrapnel, timers,
timing devices, boobytraps, detcord, pmk 40,
silencers, Uzi, HK-MP5, AK-47, FAL, Jatti, Skorpion
MP, teflon bullets, cordite, napalm, law, Stingers,
RPK, SOCIMI 821 SMG, STEN, BAR, MP40, HK-G3,FN-MAG,
RPD,PzB39, Air
Force One, M60, RPK74, SG530, SG540, Galil arm,
Walther WA2000, HK33KE, Parker-Hale MOD. 82, AKR,
Ingram MAC10, M3, L34A1, Walther MPL, AKS-74, HK-GR6,
subsonic rounds, ballistic media, special forces,
JFKSWC, SFOD-D, SRT, Rewson, SAFE, Waihopai, INFOSEC,
ASPIC, Information Security, SAI, Information Warfare,
IW, IS, Privacy, Information Terrorism, Kenya,
Terrorism Defensive Information, Defense Information
Warfare, Offensive Information, Offensive Information
Warfare, NAIA, SAPM, ASU, ECHELON ASTS, National
Information Infrastructure, InfoSec, SAO, Reno,
Compsec, JICS, Computer Terrorism, Firewalls, Secure
Internet Connections, RSP, ISS, JDF, Passwords, NAAP,
DefCon V,
RSO, Hackers, Encryption, ASWS, Espionage, USDOJ, NSA,
CIA, S/Key, SSL, FBI, secret Service, USSS, Defcon,
Military, White House, Undercover, NCCS, Mayfly, PGP,
SALDV, PEM, resta, RSA, Perl-RSA, MSNBC, bet, AOL, AOL
TOS, CIS, CBOT, AIMSX, STARLAN, 3B2, BITNET, Tanzania,
SAMU, COSMOS, DATTA, E911, FCIC, HTCIA, IACIS, UT/RUS,
JANET, ram, JICC, ReMOB, LEETAC, UTU, VNET, BRLO,
SADCC, NSLEP, SACLANTCEN, FALN, 877,
NAVELEXSYSSECENGCEN, BZ, CANSLO, CBNRC, CIDA, JAVA,
rsta, Active X, Compsec 97, RENS, LLC, DERA, JIC, rip,
rb, Wu, RDI, Mavricks, BIOL, Meta-hackers, ^?, SADT,
Steve Case, Tools, RECCEX, Telex, OTAN, monarchist,
NMIC, NIOG, IDB, MID/KL, NADIS, NMI, SEIDM, BNC,
CNCIS, STEEPLEBUSH, RG, BSS, DDIS, mixmaster, BCCI,
BRGE, SARL, Military Intelligence, JICA, Scully,
recondo, Flame, Infowar, Bubba, Freeh, Archives,
> >> > ISADC, CISSP, Sundevil, jack, Investigation,
JOTS, ISACA, NCSA,
ASVC,
> >>spook
> >> > words, RRF, 1071, Bugs Bunny, Verisign, Secure,
ASIO, Lebed,
ICE,
NRO,
> >>
> >> > Lexis-Nexis, NSCT, SCIF, FLiR, JIC, bce,
Lacrosse, Flashbangs,
HRT,
> >>IRA,
> >> > EODG, DIA, USCOI, CID, BOP, FINCEN, FLETC, NIJ,
ACC, AFSPC,
BMDO,
> >>site,
> >> > SASSTIXS, NAVWAN, NRL, RL, NAVWCWPNS, NSWC,
USAFA, AHPCRC, ARPA,
SARD,
> >>
> >> > LABLINK, USACIL, SAPT, USCG, NRC, ~, O,
NSA/CSS, CDC, DOE, SAAM,
FMS,
> >>HPCC,
> >> > NTIS, SEL, USCODE, CISE, SIRC, CIM, ISN, DJC,
bemd, SGC, UNCPCJ,
CFC,
> >> > SABENA,
> >> > DREO, CDA, SADRS, DRA, SHAPE, bird dog,
SACLANT, BECCA, DCJFTF,
HALO,
> >>SC,
> >> > TA
> >> > SAS, Lander, GSM, T Branch, AST, SAMCOMM, HAHO,
FKS, 868, GCHQ,
DITSA,
> >>
> >> > SORT,
> >> > AMEMB, NSG, HIC, EDI, benelux, SAS, SBS, SAW,
UDT, EODC, GOE,
DOE,
> >>SAMF,
> >> > GEO,
> >> > JRB, 3P-HV, Masuda, Forte, AT, GIGN, Exon
Shell, radint, MB,
CQB,
> >>CONUS,
> >> > CTU,
> >> > RCMP, GRU, SASR, GSG-9, 22nd SAS, GEOS, EADA,
SART, BBE, STEP,
> >>Echelon,
> >> > Dictionary, MD2, MD4, MDA, diwn, 747, ASIC,
777, RDI, 767, MI5,
737,
> >>MI6,
> >> > 757, Kh-11, EODN, SHS, ^X, Shayet-13, SADMS,
Spetznaz, Recce,
707,
> >>CIO,
> >> > NOCS,
> >> > Halcon, NSS, Duress, RAID, Uziel, wojo, Psyops,
SASCOM, grom,
NSIRL,
> >>D-11,
> >> > SERT, VIP, ARC, S.E.T. Team, NSWG, MP5k, SATKA,
DREC, DEVGRP,
DF,
DSD,
> >>FDM,
> >> > GRU, LRTS, SIGDEV, NACSI, MEU/SOC,PSAC, PTT,
RFI, ZL31,
SIGDASYS,
TDM,
> >>
> >> > SUKLO,
> >> > SUSLO, TELINT, fake, TEXTA, ELF, LF, MF, SIGS,
VHF, Recon,
peapod,
> >> > PA598D28,
> >> > Spall, dort, 50MZ, 11Emc Choe, SATCOMA, UHF,
SHF, ASIO, SASP,
WANK,
> >> > Colonel,
> >> > domestic disruption, 5ESS, smuggle, Z-200,
15kg, DUVDEVAN, RFX,
> >>nitrate,
> >> > OIR,
> >> > Pretoria, M-14, enigma, Bletchley Park,
Clandestine, NSO, nkvd,
argus,
> >>
> >> > afsatcom, CQB, NVD, Counter Terrorism Security,
SARA, Rapid
Reaction,
> >> > JSOFC3IP, Corporate Security, Police, sniper,
PPS, ASIS, ASLET,
TSCM,
> >> > Security Consulting, M-x spook, Z-150T, High
Security, Security
> >>Evaluation,
> >> > Electronic Surveillance, MI-17, ISR, NSAS,
Counterterrorism,
real,
> >>spies,
> >> > IWO, eavesdropping, debugging, CCSS,
interception, COCOT, NACSI,
> >>rhost,
> >> > rhosts, ASO, SETA, Amherst, Broadside,
Capricorn, NAVCM, Gamma,
> >>Gorizont,
> >> > Guppy, NSS, rita, ISSO, submiss, ASDIC, .tc,
2EME REP, FID, 7NL
SBS,
> >>tekka,
> >> > captain, 226, .45, nonac, .li, Ionosphere,
Mole, Keyhole, NABS,
> >>Kilderkin,
> >> > Artichoke, Badger, Emerson, Tzvrif, SDIS, T2S2,
STTC, DNR,
NADDIS,
> >>NFLIS,
> >> > CFD, quarter, Cornflower, Daisy, Egret, Iris,
JSOTF, Hollyhock,
> >>Jasmine,
> >> > Juile, Vinnell, B.D.M., Sphinx, Stephanie,
Reflection, Spoke,
Talent,
> >> > Trump,
> >> > FX, FXR, IMF, POCSAG, rusers, Covert Video,
Intiso, r00t, lock
> >>picking,
> >> > Beyond Hope, LASINT, csystems, .tm, passwd,
2600 Magazine,
JUWTF,
> >> > Competitor,
> >> > EO, Chan, Pathfinders, SEAL Team 3, JTF, Nash,
ISSAA, B61-11,
> >>Alouette,
> >> > executive, Event Security, Mace, Cap-Stun,
stakeout, ninja,
ASIS,
ISA,
> >>EOD,
> >> > Oscor, Merlin, NTT, SL-1, Rolm, TIE,
Tie-fighter, PBX, SLI, NTT,
MSCJ,
> >>MIT,
> >> > 69, RIT, Time, MSEE, Cable & Wireless, CSE,
SUW, J2, Embassy,
ETA,
> >>Fax,
> >> > finks, Fax encryption, white noise, Fernspah,
MYK, GAFE,
forcast,
> >>import,
> >> > rain, tiger, buzzer, N9, pink noise, CRA,
M.P.R.I., top secret,
> >>Mossberg,
> >> > 50BMG, Macintosh Security, Macintosh Internet
Security, OC3,
Macintosh
> >>
> >> > Firewalls, Unix Security, VIP Protection, SIG,
sweep, Medco,
TRD,
TDR,
> >>Z,
> >> > sweeping, SURSAT, 5926, TELINT, Audiotel,
Harvard, 1080H, SWS,
Asset,
> >> > Satellite imagery, force, NAIAG, Cypherpunks,
NARF, 127,
Coderpunks,

> >>TRW,
> >> > remailers, replay, redheads, RX-7, explicit,
FLAME, JTF-6, AVN,
ISSSP,
> >>
> >> > Anonymous, W, Sex, chaining, codes, Nuclear,
20, subversives,
SLIP,
> >>toad,
> >> > fish, data havens, unix, c, a, b, d, SUBACS,
the, Elvis, quiche,
DES,
> >>1*,
> >> > NATIA, NATOA, sneakers, UXO, (), OC-12,
counterintelligence,
Shaldag,
> >> > sport,
> >> > NASA, TWA, DT, gtegsc, owhere, .ch, hope, emc,
industrial
espionage,
> >>SUPIR,
> >> > PI, TSCI, spookwords, industrial intelligence,
H.N.P., SUAEWICS,
> >>Juiliett
> >> > Class Submarine, Locks, qrss, loch, 64 Vauxhall
Cross, Ingram
Mac-10,
> >> > wwics,
> >> > sigvoice, ssa, E.O.D., SEMTEX, penrep, racal,
OTP, OSS, Siemens,
RPC,
> >>Met,
> >> > CIA-DST, INI, watchers, keebler, contacts,
Blowpipe, BTM, CCS,
GSA,
> >>Kilo
> >> > Class, squib, primacord, RSP, Z7, Becker, Nerd,
fangs, Austin,
no|d,
> >> > Comirex,
> >> > GPMG, Speakeasy, humint, GEODSS, SORO, M5,
BROMURE, ANC, zone,
SBI,
> >>DSS,
> >> > S.A.I.C., Minox, Keyhole, SAR, Rand
Corporation, Starr,
Wackenhutt,
> >>EO,
> >> > burhop, Wackendude, mol, Shelton, 2E781, F-22,
2010, JCET,
coc aine,
> >>Vale,
> >> > IG,
> >> > Kosovo, Dake, 36,800, Hillal, Pesec, Hindawi,
GGL, NAICC, CTU,
botux,
> >> > Virii,
> >> > CCC, ISPE, CCSC, Scud, SecDef, Magdeyev, VOA,
Kosiura, Small
Pox,
> >>Tajik,
> >> > +=,
> >> > Blacklisted 411, TRDL, Internet Underground,
BX, XS4ALL, wetsu,
> >>muezzin,
> >> > Retinal Fetish, WIR, Fetish, FCA, Yobie,
forschung, emm, ANZUS,
> >>Reprieve,
> >> > NZC-332, edition, cards, mania, 701, CTP, CATO,
Phon-e, Chicago
Posse,
> >>
> >> > NSDM,
> >> > l0ck, spook, keywords, QRR, PLA, TDYC, W3, CUD,
CdC, Weekly
World
> >>News,
> >> > Zen,
> >> > World Domination, Dead, GRU, M72750, Salsa, 7,
Blowfish,
Gorelick,
> >>Glock,
> >> > Ft.
> >> > Meade, NSWT, press-release, WISDIM, burned,
Indigo, wire
transfer,
> >>e-cash,
> >> > Bubba the Love Sponge, Enforcers, Digicash,
zip, SWAT, Ortega,
PPP,
> >>NACSE,
> >> > crypto-anarchy, AT&T, SGI, SUN, MCI, Blacknet,
ISM, JCE,
Middleman,
> >>KLM,
> >> > Blackbird, NSV, GQ360, X400, Texas, jihad, SDI,
BRIGAND, Uzi,
Fort
> >>Meade,
> >> > *&,
> >> > gchq.gov.uk, supercomputer, bullion, 3, NTTC,
Blackmednet, :,
> >>Propaganda,
> >> > ABC, Satellite phones, IWIS, Planet-1, ISTA,
rs9512c, South
Africa,
> >> > Sergeyev,
> >> > Montenegro, Toeffler, Rebollo, sorot,
cryptanalysis, nuclear, 52
52 N
> >>- 03
> >> > 03
> >> > W, Morgan, Canine, GEBA, INSCOM, MEMEX,
Stanley, FBI, Panama,
> >>fissionable,
> >> > Sears Tower, NORAD, Delta Force, SEAL, virtual,
WASS, WID,
Dolch,
> >>secure
> >> > shell, screws, Black-Ops, O/S, Area51, SABC,
basement, ISWG, $
@,
> >> > data-haven,
> >> > NSDD, black-bag, rack, TEMPEST, Goodwin,
rebels, ID, MD5, IDEA,
> >>garbage,
> >> > market, beef, Stego, ISAF, unclassified,
Sayeret Tzanhanim,
PARASAR,
> >> > Gripan,
> >> > pirg, curly, Taiwan, guest, utopia, NSG,
orthodox, CCSQ, Alica,
SHA,
> >> > Global,
> >> > gorilla, Bob, UNSCOM, Fukuyama, Manfurov,
Kvashnin, Marx,
Abdurahmon,
> >> > snullen, Pseudonyms, MITM, NARF, Gray Data,
VLSI, mega, Leitrim,
> >>Yakima,
> >> > NSES, Sugar Grove, WAS, Cowboy, Gist, 8182,
Gatt, Platform,
1911,
> >> > Geraldton,
> >> > UKUSA, veggie, XM, Parvus, NAVSVS, 3848,
Morwenstow, Consul,
Oratory,
> >>Pine
> >> > Gap, Menwith, Mantis, DSD, BVD, 1984, blow out,
BUDS, WQC,
Flintlock,
> >>PABX,
> >> > Electron, Chicago Crust, e95, DDR&E, 3M, KEDO,
iButton, R1,
erco,
> >>Toffler,
> >> > FAS, RHL, K3, Visa/BCC, SNT, Ceridian, STE,
condor,
CipherTAC-2000,
> >>Etacs,
> >> > Shipiro, ssor, piz, fritz, KY, 32, Edens,
Kiwis, Kamumaruha,
DODIG,
> >> > Firefly,
> >> > HRM, Albright, Bellcore, rail, csim, NMS, 2c,
FIPS140-1, CAVE,
E-Bomb,
> >>
> >> > CDMA,
> >> > Fortezza, 355ml, ISSC, cybercash, NAWAS,
government, NSY, hate,
> >>speedbump,
> >> > joe, illuminati, BOSS, Kourou, Misawa, Morse,
HF, P415,
ladylove,
> >>filofax,
> >> > Gulf, lamma, Unit 5707, Sayeret Mat'Kal, Unit
669, Sayeret
Golani,
> >> > Lanceros,
> >> > Summercon, NSADS, president, ISFR, freedom,
ISSO, walburn,
Defcon VI,
> >>DC6,
> >> > Larson, P99, HERF pipe-bomb, 2.3 Oz., coc aine,
$, impact,
Roswell,
> >>ESN,
> >> > COS,
> >> > E.T., credit card, b9, fraud, ST1, assassinate,
virus, ISCS,
ISPR,
> >>anarchy,
> >> > rogue, mailbomb, 888, Chelsea, 1997,
Whitewater, MOD, York,
plutonium,
> >>
> >> > William Gates, clone, BATF, SGDN, Nike, WWSV,
Atlas, IWWSVCS,
Delta,
> >>TWA,
> >> > Kiwi, PGP 2.6.2., PGP 5.0i, PGP 5.1,
siliconpimp, SASSTIXS, IWG,
> >>Lynch,
> >> > 414,
> >> > Face, Pixar, IRIDF, NSRB, eternity server,
Skytel, Yukon,
Templeton,
> >> > Johohonbu, LUK, Cohiba, Soros, Standford,
niche, ISEP, ISEC, 51,
H&K,
> >>USP,
> >> > ^,
> >> > sardine, bank, EUB, USP, PCS, NRO, Red Cell,
NSOF, Glock 26,
snuffle,
> >> > Patel,
> >> > package, ISI, INR, INS, IRS, GRU, RUOP, GSS,
NSP, SRI, Ronco,
Armani,
> >>BOSS,
> >> > Chobetsu, FBIS, BND, SISDE, FSB, BfV, IB,
froglegs, JITEM, SADF,
> >>advise,
> >> > TUSA, LITE, PKK, HoHoCon, SISMI, ISG, FIS, MSW,
Spyderco, UOP,
SSCI,
> >>NIMA,
> >> > HAMASMOIS, SVR, SIN, advisors, SAP, Monica,
OAU, PFS, Aladdin,
AG,
> >> > chameleon
> >> > man, Hutsul, CESID, Bess, rail gun, .375,
Peering, CSC,
Tangimoana
> >>Beach,
> >> > Commecen, Vanuatu, Kwajalein, LHI, DRM, GSGI,
DST, MITI, JERTO,
SDF,
> >> > Koancho,
> >> > Blenheim, Rivera, Kyudanki, varon, 310, 17,
312, NB, CBM, CTP,
> >>Sardine,
> >> > SBIRS, jaws, SGDN, ADIU, DEADBEEF, IDP, IDF,
Halibut, SONANGOL,
Flu,
> >>&,
> >> > Loin,
> >> > PGP 5.53, meta, Faber, SFPD, EG&G, ISEP,
blackjack, Fox, Aum,
AIEWS,
> >>AMW,
> >> > RHL, Baranyi, WORM, MP5K-SD, 1071, WINGS, cdi,
VIA, DynCorp,
UXO, Ti,
> >>WWSP,
> >> > WID, osco, Mary, honor, Templar, THAAD,
package, CISD, ISG,
BIOLWPN,
> >>JRA,
> >> > ISB, ISDS, chosen, LBSD, van, schloss, secops,
DCSS, DPSD, LIF,
PRIME,
> >>
> >> > SURVIAC, telex, SP4, Analyzer, embassy, Golf,
B61-7, Maple,
Tokyo,
> >>ERR,
> >> > SBU,
> >> > Threat, JPL, Tess, SE, EPL, SPINTCOM, ISS-ADP,
Merv, Mexico,
SUR,
> >>SO13,
> >> > Rojdykarna, airframe, 510, EuroFed, Avi,
shelter, Crypto AG

"Mommas says Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what yer gonna git".

Originally posted by Voice_of Doom
All this reminds me of a story....
A Zen student kept asking his teacher what the Buddha mind was. The teacher took the student to a small room and told him to medititate on a large deer for three weeks. After the three weeks were up the teacher opened the door and told the student to come outside. The student replied that he could not, fore his horns wouldn't fit through the door. At that moment that student found enlightenment............


You are all absolutely free

THERE IS NO MIND!

How dare you tell me I'm free?!? Don't you know that us humans love to lock ourselves up in our mind created prisons?!?!

And by the way, your cat is high.

Here is the thing Bigsage members disagree with each other here all the time, it�s a part of the ATS experience.

One of the reasons I came here was because of such a challenge, most here would agree

The pseudo-cryptic posts, peppered by bad usage of the english language and misspellings are giving me a headache. It must be past Bigsage's bedtime.

nothing is wrong with a disagreement...
but see the veiled disrespect of ones soul used to sway their allegiance within disagreements...
[Edited on 2-11-2003 by bigsage]

[Edited on 2-11-2003 by bigsage]

of course there are the people who just joined in on the conversation here that seem to feel that they have to put their two cents in and pick on big sage....go to hell if you dont have anything important to add to the convo



[Edited on 1-11-2003 by mysteriousbob]

For once, and maybe the last time, get back to the topic at hand..

bigsage, pretend we know nothing about this infiltration, and that some of us have our ears opened and want to understand what you mean.

When you say some ATS veterans have relinquished their position to bask in the shadows of war. How did you come to the realization of this?

What makes up this counterpropaganda by these agents you speak of?

ok..i need sleep...i demand to talk to all tomorrow, or later today that is. Damn its late, or is it early??

into thinking that a word regardless of the positive or negative magnitude behind it could conceal the intent behind the individual using them, in other words or laymans terms...

people use words everyday to either make you submissive to their will or allow you to continue on in life with your own will in tact...the programming comes into play when you are duped into believing that you must follow anothers will in order to be happy...the agents spring to life when one excercises his will that differs from the core infrastructure(matrix) and attack without even noticing the actions they are commiting...proof i have none for all proof is verbs used to incite you to believe anothers will...

Originally posted by Toltec
Here is the thing Bigsage members disagree with each other here all the time, it�s a part of the ATS experience.

One of the reasons I came here was because of such a challenge, most here would agree

NO! I disagree. Oh wait, I guess you're right. We do disagree a lot. But I still want to disagree with that somehow. Err...but...I....just...can't. Uh!

Oh, and the infiltration is subconscious. It's part of the game. Have fun damn you. All of you. Don't make me virtual bitch slap ya'll.

And the NWO will not win in the end. They won't win at ATS and they won't win the hearts and minds of humanity. We have already won. It's merely a choice. Or you could make no choice and insert another quarter.

Originally posted by EastCoastKid

Originally posted by bigsage
people it is not really that difficult to see the truth when you believe...

What is the truth, according to you?

and i am not here to discern whose faith is apparent...

huh?

when one imposes their will uppon another thats an action...

Who is imposing whom's will upon who?


when one allows one to existunder their own free will that is also an action...

No disrespect, but this statement does not make sense. We will need further clarification.

look back and reread the actions taken by many as simple forms of disinformation...

Who have taken what actions?

and just because william is involved that does not change my stance he is man as i...

am..?

just because persons can see my name and stats does not change my stance as well either...

What exactly is your stance?

move with faith not fear...

well the closer we get to the truth the more the truth is revealed in assimilated bursts, allowing one to think about but not be able to excercise freewill...
and that is the icing on the cake because it takes years to unlearn the programming put in place...

Hey ya'll, I'm gonna go see what the grown ups are talking about..

So these agents are people who express opinions different than everyone elses'? That these agents don't even realise they are agents of counterpropaganda, because they attack without even noticing the actions they are commiting, as you put it?

i was warned 2 times during this post...
by william...
did someone commit suicide?no so why all the warning in one day when i have been a citizen here for several months, as well i was also threatened that this post would be closed...
watch and learn...



[Edited on 2-11-2003 by bigsage]

my name is bigsage little kid...

man, just another one of those examples...

who is he to impose on others his will as to where his ats destination is?...