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Originally posted by clearmind
nephra..excelent subject...but be carefull.it is one that, i think, gets to some of the core problems in the world. you know 'god might toss a thunderbolt or something your way
religion has caused more termoil and deaths than drugs will ever do.... i have met both cultures ('drugies' and 'good religiuos people') and both are wacked out!
religion is and will be manipulated by those in power. for evidence you don't have to look any further than what is around you. the fractioning of the same religion...the freaky extremist muslims...the 'christian right'...is there a christian left?
most people go to church out of ignorence. they have know idea what they believe and they don't want to think and look for themselves...."please tell me what to think, i don't want to explore my own views." most people would be scared sh*tless to quiet thier minds and explore.
as you can tell i sort of have a low opinion of the 'public' in general. (read some of my other posts)
the lemmings are easily manipulated or just don't care about anything unless it affects them directly...and by directly, i mean $$ wise...just follow the $$
Originally posted by NephraTari
I
- Religion as a veil to prevent us from knowing who or what we really are.
- Religion as means of controling the human race for an unknown purpose
- Religion as a tool for creating wars
- Religion as a tool for setting up and retaining govenments.
[Edited on 1-11-2003 by NephraTari]
Originally posted by jagdflieger
the catholic church issued a statement recently telling people
"Dont use condoms AIDS can get through them"
? how many people in 3rd world countries do you think that will help kill
For example, we have the following quote from this thread. There is no link to the actual statement made by the Roman Catholic Church. How am I to believe this statement?
Originally posted by jagdflieger
Reply to Dany:
1. This is a Cardinal (Lopez Trujillo) not the Pope. His view is not shared by the entire Roman Catholic Church and does not represent an offical postion of the Catholic Church. Also Cardinal Trujillo states:"Relying on condoms is like betting on your own death," and went on to state "and warned that the only foolproof way to prevent the spread of the virus was monogamy within marriage". He bases his argument on the fact that "' (WHO) argument that condoms reduce risk of infection by 90 percent proves his point" still leaves "a risk of 10 or 15 percent is like playing Russian roulette". When you read the article, you will see that the good Cardinal is basically stating the truth: the only guaranteed way to prevent the spread of STD's is by a monogamous relationship (In the Cardinal words: "the only foolproof way to prevent the spread of the virus was monogamy within marriage").
the catholic church issued a statement recently telling people
"Dont use condoms AIDS can get through them"
? how many people in 3rd world countries do you think that will help kill
bigsage
you get the just of what he is trying to portray...
i think you are attempting to decieve others in this regard and i have witnessed this action by you before...
Originally posted by Pherophile
Originally posted by NephraTari
I
- Religion as a veil to prevent us from knowing who or what we really are.
- Religion as means of controling the human race for an unknown purpose
- Religion as a tool for creating wars
- Religion as a tool for setting up and retaining govenments.
[Edited on 1-11-2003 by NephraTari]
1. Its quite possible, although there are many athiests who aren't bursting out saying they're something else. I know most people wouldn't, but there are enough of them someone would.
2. The entire human race? No. Part of it? Oh yes. It is 'unknown' still, but I imagine there are some alterioir motives behind religious leaders.
3. This is a no-brainer. Look at the Middle East. Need I say more?
4. Less now than before, but this practice is still in place. 1600 and 1700s very good examples of such things.