Dr Boylan and the Star Nations

I have recently been in contact with Dr Boylan and got some useful information from him about the Star Nations.

First of all he completely dis credits the Ashtar as a bunch of new age fake channelers and the Ashtar have nothing to do with the Star Nations.

I was also told the star people are a group of intelligent alien races who work together under the 11 laws principle.

The star nations consists of four main types of alien species the zeta's (or greys) who are very adept at teaching skills, the "preying mantis" like race who are a gifted at spiritual teachings, the reptilians or reptoids who apparently have hearts the size of texas and the jawas who are often reffered to as the mechanics and are often noted for there technology.

Apparently there are many different species out there at below, the same and obviously above us technologically but we are protected as a member of the star nations.

Humans were seeded on this planet by the star nations as a ape/star person hybrid species and now they look after us on the ground and in the stars.

Apparently some people who are abducted are 'upgraded' so dna passed on will lead to humans with higher understandings individuals like these are called star kids.

Anyway i hope this clears some things up about Dr Boylan and website and the star people.

There are still a few questions i need to ask where does he get his information from he refers to Councillor Meata of the Star Nations’ High Council in his email to me i will try to find out how they communicate.

Dr Boylans website:
www.drboylan.com...

Anyone got any good questions to ask Dr Boylan before i contact him again?

I think this Bolan guy is a dillusional fool and a fraud.
Star Nations, Star Seeds and Star Kids ? Could it get any tackier ?

Originally posted by violet
I think this Bolan guy is a dillusional fool and a fraud.
Star Nations, Star Seeds and Star Kids ? Could it get any tackier ?

Dr. Richard Boylan, Ph.D., MSW, M.S. Ed., B.A.
Internationally-noted Researcher of UFOs/Star Visitors and of human Star Kids/Star Seed adults, Behavioral Scientist, Exo-Anthropologist, emeritus University Associate Professor of Psychology, Registered Social Worker, Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist, and Councillor.

I wouldnt call him a dillusional fool but he might be a fraud he certainly has the enthusiasm of some people look at the posts on this site ats about messages from the star nations i think its upto us to find out whether he is a fraud or not.

Do you people really believe that this "Doctor" is in contact with Alien beings? If I am not mistaken, this Boylan guy was stripped of his degree or something along the lines of that. He seems to me like an old man with too much time on his hands who enjoys creating a gullible following with his poorly designed website. His "star people" friends claim to pilot a spaceship above a metropolitan area, I guess sometime soon, right? Well, didn't these "star people" just release an announcement claiming to show their "spacecraft" over a month ago? These types of claims remind me of Prophet Yahwey (sp) who claimed a huge spacecraft would come down over Las Vegas.

I really can't believe how someone could take this guy Boylan's words as fact and follow them as if he is telling the truth. People like Boylan are a disgrace in my eyes, and as time passes and no "spaceship" arrives you hopefully will start to feel the same way..........

Originally posted by ArgosDr. Richard Boylan, Ph.D., MSW, M.S. Ed., B.A.
Internationally-noted Researcher of UFOs/Star Visitors and of human Star Kids/Star Seed adults, Behavioral Scientist, Exo-Anthropologist, emeritus University Associate Professor of Psychology, Registered Social Worker, Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist, and Councillor.

This is clear and proof positive that having the dicipline to earn degrees does not assure a person is honest and of high integrity. Either he doesn't have it "all together" or he is not above acts of deception to push some odd agenda or idea. Pushing degrees is like saying people with college educations don't lie or commit crimes. The claims this presumed doctor makes are no different than any other claims posted on this forum by persons with no degrees.

Neither one; degreed or non degreed will ever front solid concrete evidence. What they will offer is loads of very convenient excuses that allow them to make grandiose claims. We all know that by now.

when you spoke to the doctor did he ask if you had any interest in naked hot tubbing?

my post on the "doctor" from another thread

Nice find Crakeur

"...naked hot-tub sessions with his "patients" while working (successfully, in many cases) to implant false memories of alien abductions in them.

Well there goes the lack of "honest and of high integrity" I mentioned.
If - I repeat if - these accusations are true, it would more than explain the shift in career focus. Is there any way to verify the licenses to practice were stripped?

[edit on 17-8-2006 by nullster]

Originally posted by Crakeur
when you spoke to the doctor did he ask if you had any interest in naked hot tubbing?

Nice credibility shot, but I can find information that is untrue about anyone on the net, so I'm not surprised that you can find those. Bush is an Alien

I do have a question. I would like to find out what exactly triggered him to come under the belief that those following the Ashtar Command, mainly Commander Aleon, were in fact fraudulent? What information was he given to add substance to this belief, or was he simply told that they were a bunch of new age hipsters? I personally have never felt that AC was legit, but I would like to know a little bit of deeper info on his thoughts with the matter.

Originally posted by niteboy82

Originally posted by Crakeur
when you spoke to the doctor did he ask if you had any interest in naked hot tubbing?

Nice credibility shot, but I can find information that is untrue about anyone on the net, so I'm not surprised that you can find those. Bush is an Alien

I do have a question. I would like to find out what exactly triggered him to come under the belief that those following the Ashtar Command, mainly Commander Aleon, were in fact fraudulent? What information was he given to add substance to this belief, or was he simply told that they were a bunch of new age hipsters? I personally have never felt that AC was legit, but I would like to know a little bit of deeper info on his thoughts with the matter.

Now THAT is denial... Lol!!!!!

Originally posted by vance
Now THAT is denial... Lol!!!!!

Could you expand on that a bit please? I'm not really sure what you meant. If this is his "area of expertise" then I guess he would be the one to ask about it? If he's a nut, and I'm a nut believing some of these things, then what does it hurt to ask the question?

I definitely don't go around making one liner comments telling people I don't agree with that they are in denial though.

niteboy, he was stripped of his license to practice Psychiatry. Am I finding more made up stuff to discredit him? No, I'm finding the actual report made by the California Board of Psychiatry.

www.virtuallystrange.net...


He discredited himself with his naked massage and hot tub therapies.

I just want to point some things out all i want to investigate is whether Dr Boylan is legite or not. The main reason for this is, he's well known by alot of people who believe him, and has captured the interest of alot of people, even here on ATS.

I just fancy a crack at finding out if he's telling the truth, hopefully with the help of you people on ATS - its what you guys do isnt it?

Dr Boylan has been councelling people who claim to of has alien abductions since 1989 using hypnotherapy he can help people to recall events from there sub concious memory to find out what happened to them.

I believe he then set up the non profit based- ACCET- Academy of Clinical Close Encouter Therapists. Which he is the president of, he done this to set up a whole network of counsellors to help alien abductees.

www.drboylan.com...
Can anyone find out anymore information on this organisation i can only find this website, they are apparently federally recognised.

Apparently after many years in the field he gained the knowledge that the 'star visitors' were mainly peaceful and most experimentations done on humans were upgrades if you like.

www.drboylan.com...
This is his account of his own close encounters!

With his knowledge and experience about hybrid kids and those with special abilities he set up Star Kids Ltd where he helps these star kids and teaches them about there skills and abilities and proper use.

www.drboylan.com...
Starkids website check it out he really does this and alot of people out there believe they are star kids.

www.drboylan.com...
This is an acoount of one of his star kids workshop. Maybe someone in an area near his next one could go take a look and report back. Any American interested(as they are held in the USA) let me know and i'll ask him if you can go.

Anyway there is enough here to get on with for now i am going to e-mail him soon to ask about how he makes communications with the star people and what evidence he has to dismiss the Ashtar.

If anyone wants to help or has any questions about this thread or they want ti ask Dr Boylan let me know.

How did this go?
What is your conclusion to you sending him your letter?

Boylan's stealing his Star Nations mythology from the Hopi, specifically Standing Elk.

It was either 1996 or 1997 when the white buffalo calf was born, which was the prophetic sign that provoked Standing Elk to call together the first Star Nations gathering. He told the crowd that now is the time of no more secrets as these are the end times. And then he proceeded to tell them that the Hopi and other tribes are decedents of star people.

Dr. Boylan was there at that gathering. Hence, his Star Nations mania.

That he is an educated man has absolutely nothing to do with whether he's delusional or not. I don't know if he is or if he's just flat out lying but if you're looking for an origin to his story, look no further.

Either way it is an ego-maniacal move to steal from the Indians (once again!) and make yourself the epicenter of their story.

[edit on 26-9-2008 by Jeremy_Vaeni]

My opinion... is to not necessarily believe it, but to keep it all in mind.. that way if it turns out to be true your not in complete shock.. I agree that some of what he says sounds pretty legit though it is very outlandish. The fact is that there is remarkable consistency among the testimonials of the abducties not just with Richard Boylan but with professionals all over the world.. Mary Rodwell also has some valuable insight on this subject. Not to mention in places like Australia it is accepted in even the medical field that there is Extraterrestrial intervention currently going on within the country. The question remains though whether or not Richard Boylan's vivid descriptions are in fact true... None the less it is definitely worth looking into. (Not that I believe it, but i will keep it in mind )

I believe Dr. Boylan is a fake and is only in it for the money. I recently spoke with Mr. Boylan and he completely repulsed me. He is rude, and inconsiderate.

Originally posted by Argos
Apparently some people who are abducted are 'upgraded' so dna passed on will lead to humans with higher understandings individuals like these are called star kids.
Anyone got any good questions to ask Dr Boylan before i contact him again?

Yes please ask why the people being upgraded aren't usually the best specimens.

He could've at least got some males to do the naked hot-tub thing to provide some cover for himself. Sheesh.


Like this part though, and am keeping an open mind :

Originally posted by Argos
The star nations consists of four main types of alien species the zeta's (or greys) who are very adept at teaching skills, the "preying mantis" like race who are a gifted at spiritual teachings, the reptilians or reptoids who apparently have hearts the size of texas and the jawas who are often reffered to as the mechanics and are often noted for there technology.

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Originally posted by robjeff87
He is rude, and inconsiderate.

Don't see how that makes him fake and in it for the money.



If this guy was for real it's almost certain people would've taken several steps to make sure he looked like a fool. And even if he makes himself look like a fool most of the time, doesn't mean he has to be wrong. Some people are just strange, doesn't mean they have to be liars and manipulators.

And even if this guy is full of it, you can be certain that if someone comes along with the truth at some point, he or she will be stitched up and made to look like an idiot, fool, manipulator, mentally ill person, etc, etc. Half from fear, half from people with agendas and interests (bank accounts, etc.) to protect.

I recently contacted Dr. Boylan seeking an informational exchange of ideas and theories, just a friendly intellectual discussion but was instead bombarded with a chain like reply message labeling me a member of the Cabal and denouncing the prospect of any type of intellectual debate.

Needless to say I was highly disappointed in a "Doctor's" inability to open up for intellectual debate. I also recently read an article about a meeting that was conducted to discuss the alien topic.

You can read for yourself and judge for yourself the way that the man carries himself in public.

As for his credibility, I'd say he's full of himself, a desperate psychiatrist whose lost his license due to scandals and is seeking a way to fill the void left in his bank account by exploiting people and convincing them they have been contacted by extraterrestrials. If there is such an organization as the star nations, then why wouldn't they show themselves. Boylan would argue that they have vowed not to interfere on Earth, but also maintains the stance that they created us as a hybrid planet, thus contradicting their whole, leave the Earth alone idea.

He also seems adamantly against the Cabal/Illuminati/NWO and quite paranoid to accuse me right of the bat of being a member in such an organization.

Now I'm not trying to attack the man for his beliefs or theories about ETs and spirituality, as I myself have done a bit of seeking for spiritual enlightenment and have arrived at a number of unusual, hard to support, arguments about the fundamental mechanics dictating the universes composition. I've done quite a bit of ranting and understand that sometimes its hard to open one's mind to the possibility of alternative scenarios or arguments, and can forgive Boylan for his blatant attacks and accusations against me.

But the attacks make me think there's more to Boylan than just being in contact with some type of universal Space UN, and even if that is the case, do we really want to be part of an Inter-Galactic UN. Look at the UN today and how it drags nations into foreign wars, could you imagine dragging our entire planet into some Space Nation's war against a revolutionary faction off in the fringes of space?

Which is why I maintain that his Star Child organization is merely a cult like way of extracting money from gullible people to fill the void in his former "Doctor" sized bank account, and if you don't think shrinks make a lot of money, then maybe you should go see one for a bit and see how much it costs you.

The difference between a spiritual seeker of truth like myself and Boylan is that I seek no profit, I do not impose my beliefs upon others, I offer historically based religious and mythological evidence to support my arguments, and I mos of all do not try to convince people that they are special members of society and ought to donate to my organization for more understanding.

I have no organization and I seek no profit from the sharing of philosophical and cosmic ideas, my compensation is further enlightenment, better understanding and a keener grasp on the alternative ideas and theories which most likely have some of the answers but not all. For Dr. Boylan the compensation is in donations, the agenda is to instill his beliefs in you to convince you that you belong to the Star people, and that to understand more you should get your friends and family to donate to him and his organization money for further "research." Based on his track record, that donation money probably goes into throwing naked hot tub parties, but whose to know, there's always a slim chance he is correct and he has mustered quite a following of "Star Children."

Overall, based on my research and interactions with the man, he is a total fraud, playing off of others theoretical arguments and masking them as his own, offering gullible people a false reality to ease spiritual doubt in an age where religious zeal is losing its morale.

On a side note, the whole reason I ended up learning about this so called Doctor, was because I was researching any old prophecies relating to the civil unrest in the mid east and tsunami in Japan, as I myself predicted the rise of civil unrest and the increase of natural disasters when I was 13 (in 1999, and mind you I was 13 and knew nothing of Nostradamus or other prophetic predictions other than some stuff from Revelations that I had learned growing up in a Lutheran church) and writing a short story which took place in the future. My story took place in the year 2994 but the earth was a very medieval-like and scarcely populated world. The story was based off of dreams I had and being a young teenager about to enter high school and captivated by the anime genre, I needed something to keep me occupied over summer break.

Unfortunately, in the prologue for my story I sort of claimed that terrorist attacks on the US would spark a war followed by civil violence and increased natural disasters which would culminate in economic collapse and eventually a global civil war to over turn the powers at be. After all I needed a way to explain how the world had reverted to monarchies and castles and horses by the year 2994 and what better way to do that than to destroy everything already here. Back in 1999 I could have never imagined the possibility that maybe in 2994 we really will be living like peasants with feudal lords and mounted knights.

But it happened, just look at each year since 2001 and you see the trend (9/11, dc sniper and other increased social unrest, space shuttle Colombia, tsunami in Indian Ocean, Hurricane Katrina, The Earthquakes in the Caribbean and South America, Swine Flu, Bird Flu, the economic collapse, and now the revolutions in the Mediterranean and "Wisconsin," and the Tsunami in Japan)

Needless to say the past decade hasn't been to kind for me, although I may be remembered as a prophet assuming I ever finish and publish my books, if they keep coming true there won't be any book publishers left!

Anyway sorry for ranting a bit and I hope this helps settle the debate about Boylan credibility.

Oh and Google this if you get a chance, pretty eerie: "The Vision of David Wilkerson" -1974

Sorry I forgot to post the link to the article about Boylan, here it is.

mysteriousuniverse.org...