human existance is meaningless

i have been thinking hard on this and realized our existance is utterly meaningless unless we get off our addiction to god forsaken fossil fuels and realize we have to find and utilize renewable energy fast, because if we dont there are 3 most likely possibilites of how life will end.

1.some crazy terrorists launch nukes and usa fires nukes back and brinkmanship pops to mind and everyone dies.

2.global warming from all those caddilacs and chevy trucks causes monster tsunami's, vital plant species die from increase of heat, crops wither away from increase of heat or ozone just evaporates like it inevetably will someday and the suns rays incinerate us.

3.even if we find a way to fix the ozone... if we dont get of this planet in around 5000 years our sun will continue to get older, larger, hotter, untill the sun eats up mercury and gets much to close to earth for humans to survive. that is if humans surive that long due to over population, aids, cancer, bird flu, cigaretts, obesity, terrorism, corrupt goverments, etc.

personally i dont see any porgess being made to step out of the fossil fuel grave we dug ourselves. if you ask me mother nature hates human technology and continuing to live in this prison planet is going to get worse before it gets better if it gets better at all. here is even more ways the word could end but i made my own list of 3.

Natural Disasters

1. Asteroid impact

Once a disaster scenario gets the cheesy Hollywood treatment, it's hard to take it seriously. But there is no question that a cosmic interloper will hit Earth, and we won't have to wait millions of years for it to happen. In 1908 a 200-foot-wide comet fragment slammed into the atmosphere and exploded over the Tunguska region in Siberia, Russia, with nearly 1,000 times the energy of the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. Astronomers estimate similar-sized events occur every one to three centuries. Benny Peiser, an anthropologist-cum-pessimist at Liverpool John Moores University in England, claims that impacts have repeatedly disrupted human civilization. As an example, he says one killed 10,000 people in the Chinese city of Chi'ing-yang in 1490. Many scientists question his interpretations: Impacts are most likely to occur over the ocean, and small ones that happen over land are most likely to affect unpopulated areas. But with big asteroids, it doesn't matter much where they land. Objects more than a half-mile wide- which strike Earth every 250,000 years or so- would touch off firestorms followed by global cooling from dust kicked up by the impact. Humans would likely survive, but civilization might not. An asteroid five miles wide would cause major extinctions, like the one that may have marked the end of the age of dinosaurs. For a real chill, look to the Kuiper belt, a zone just beyond Neptune that contains roughly 100,000 ice-balls more than 50 miles in diameter. The Kuiper belt sends a steady rain of small comets earthward. If one of the big ones headed right for us, that would be it for pretty much all higher forms of life, even cockroaches.

2 .Gamma-ray burst

If you could watch the sky with gamma-ray vision, you might think you were being stalked by cosmic paparazzi. Once a day or so, you would see a bright flash appear, briefly outshine everything else, then vanish. These gamma-ray bursts, astrophysicists recently learned, originate in distant galaxies and are unfathomably powerful- as much as 10 quadrillion (a one followed by 16 zeros) times as energetic as the sun. The bursts probably result from the merging of two collapsed stars. Before the cataclysmal event, such a double star might be almost completely undetectable, so we'd likely have no advance notice if one is lurking nearby. Once the burst begins, however, there would be no missing its fury. At a distance of 1,000 light-years- farther than most of the stars you can see on a clear night- it would appear about as bright as the sun. Earth's atmosphere would initially protect us from most of the burst's deadly X rays and gamma rays, but at a cost. The potent radiation would cook the atmosphere, creating nitrogen oxides that would destroy the ozone layer. Without the ozone layer, ultraviolet rays from the sun would reach the surface at nearly full force, causing skin cancer and, more seriously, killing off the tiny photosynthetic plankton in the ocean that provide oxygen to the atmosphere and bolster the bottom of the food chain. All the gamma-ray bursts observed so far have been extremely distant, which implies the events are rare. Scientists understand so little about these explosions, however, that it's difficult to estimate the likelihood of one detonating in our galactic neighborhood.

3. Collapse of the vacuum

In the book Cat's Cradle, Kurt Vonnegut popularized the idea of "ice-nine," a form of water that is far more stable than the ordinary kind, so it is solid at room temperature. Unleash a bit of it, and suddenly all water on Earth transforms to ice-nine and freezes solid. Ice-nine was a satirical invention, but an abrupt, disastrous phase transition is a possibility. Very early in the history of the universe, according to a leading cosmological model, empty space was full of energy. This state of affairs, called a false vacuum, was highly precarious. A new, more stable kind of vacuum appeared and, like ice-nine, it quickly took over. This transition unleashed a tremendous amount of energy and caused a brief runaway expansion of the cosmos. It is possible that another, even more stable kind of vacuum exists, however. As the universe expands and cools, tiny bubbles of this new kind of vacuum might appear and spread at nearly the speed of light. The laws of physics would change in their wake, and a blast of energy would dash everything to bits. "It makes for a beautiful story, but it's not very likely," says Piet Hut of the Institute for Advanced Studies in Princeton, New Jersey. He says he worries more about threats that scientists are more certain of- such as rogue black holes.

more here www.ldolphin.org...

what do ya all think?

[edit on 16-8-2006 by worksoftplayhard]

i hate to leave these kinds of posts but this song sums up your idea i think. One of my fav. songs by the way.

mom in the song is referring to mother nature-


Tool-Ænema

Some say the end is near
Some say we'll see armageddon soon
I certainly hope we will
I sure could use a vacation from this

Bull# three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks

Here in this hopeless #ing hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away
Any #ing time, any #ing day
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay

Fret for your figure and
Fret for your latte and
Fret for your hairpiece and
Fret for your lawsuit and
Fret for your prozac and
Fret for your pilot and
Fret for your contract and
Fret for your car

It's a
Bull# three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks

Here in this hopeless #ing hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away
Any #ing time, any #ing day
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay

Some say a comet will fall from the sky
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dip#s

Some say the end is near
Some say we'll see armageddon soon
I certainly hope we will 'cause
I sure could use a vacation from this

Silly #, stupid #...

One great big festering neon distraction,
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied

Learn to swim

Mom's gonna fix it all soon
Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be

Learn to swim

# L. Ron Hubbard and
# all his clones
# all those gun-toting
Hip gangster wannabes

Learn to swim

# retro anything
# your tattoos
# all you junkies and
# your short memory

Learn to swim

# smiley glad-hands
With hidden agendas
# these dysfunctional,
Insecure actresses

Learn to swim

'cause I'm praying for mayhem
And I'm praying for tidal waves
I wanna see the ground give way
I wanna watch it all go down
Mom please flush it all away
I wanna see it go right in and down
I wanna watch it go right in
Watch you flush it all away

Time to bring it down again
Don't just call me pessimist
Try and read between the lines

I can't imagine why you wouldn't
Welcome any change, my friend

I wanna see it all come down
Suck it down
Flush it down

oh um nice song... its related but im looking for input not for lyrics to a song....

I reckon mankind will bring about it's own destruction, either by war or climate-change... this is our destiny, for disobeying natural laws of harmony with ourselves and the environment. I try not to get too down about it, but I do... I think this will happen within 30 years. however, some will survive, and forge ahead to create a new 'golden age', out of the harsh lessons we have learnt about the folly of greed and destruction... peace

just enjoy life and get over it already. stop being so emo.


who cares if I implode the planet, you wont be able to bitch about it the next day.

Originally posted by Lysergic
just enjoy life and get over it already. stop being so emo.


who cares if I implode the planet, you wont be able to bitch about it the next day.

its pretty hard to enjoy life when fruitcakes like osama and ahmedijad are allowed to live... even harder after i realized backstabbing canadians in ottowa support hezbollah. horray for life.

Originally posted by worksoftplayhard
its pretty hard to enjoy life when fruitcakes like osama and ahmedijad are allowed to live... even harder after i realized backstabbing canadians in ottowa support hezbollah. horray for life.

I'd like to reiterate what Lysergic said: just enjoy life. They ways you listed above are quite plausible; the world may end in any of those ways (although my understanding has always been that #3 will take more in the order of billions of years, not a couple thousand.) Civilization may also continue on quite peacefully for one reason or another, we end up "seeing the light" and everyone joins hands and loves each other, world peace, blah blah blah.

At the same time, what'll happen if you get in a car wreck tomorrow, caught in a botched bank/store robbery and shot, hit by a bus, whatever? Do you honestly want your last thoughts to be "omg, but we didn't fix the ozone layer!" Would you be able to leave this world with a smile on your face if Canada didn't support Hezbollah? If Osama were confirmed dead, with a body to bury and (somehow) no doubt left for the world?

Would you gladly pass into the great unknown, leaving your loved ones to mourn you, if we were no longer polluting the air with all those Chevys and Caddilacs? I'm talking an accidental death, not some self-righteous, blaze of glory where you save mankind or something like that, and not some end times armeggedon either. I'm talking about falling in an open manhole cover, or a gas leak that no one notices until after someone lights a smoke. The kind of stuff no one ever thinks will happen to them, but the kind of random stuff that kills more people each year than Hollywood and the evening news let us realize.

Even taking it up a notch, out of the random accidents that can get you at any time and into the bigger stuff. Let's look at everyone's favorite terrorism/conspiracy topic. Is the only thing that 9/11 has left us with a paranoia and distrust of the government? Sorry, but for me 9/11 opened my eyes. It could've been me on any of those planes, or my fiance, my dad or mom, even just a friend. Some jackass with a boxcutter and a political agenda could've taken that away from me, and where would I be left then? Still mad because they made me take out the garbage the week before they left? For me it reaffirmed that life is something that's just too damned short to not enjoy.

That's the reason, imo at least, why you should enjoy life, because neither you nor I (nor anyone else on this board) may live to any kind of melodramatic end of days scenario where humanity cease to exist. Because we all could go at any point in time. If you figure "well, I'll be gone, what's it matter?" then switch it. Your wife/husband/girlfriend/girlfriend/brother/sister/whatever gets forced off the road tomorrow on the way home from work or school, right into a telephone pole or an oncoming car. No terrorism, no drunk behind the wheel, just some moron who couldn't hang up their cell phone long enough to look at the road.

Are you going to be standing by their grave thinking "Gee, we really need to get Bin Laden"? Are you going to eulogize them by touting the blasphemy of fossil fuels? Are you going to think back on the time you spent with them, wishing you had spent less of it trying to be happy with them and more time trying to save humanity? God, I hope not.

I'm sure all this will fall on deaf ears, judging by the tone of your previous posts, but hopefully at some point when you're not mad at whatever's ruffled your feathers you can think about it. And if what I write doesn't do the trick, I hope like Hell someone else can get it through to you.

Originally posted by worksoftplayhard

Originally posted by Lysergic
just enjoy life and get over it already. stop being so emo.


who cares if I implode the planet, you wont be able to bitch about it the next day.

its pretty hard to enjoy life when fruitcakes like osama and ahmedijad are allowed to live... even harder after i realized backstabbing canadians in ottowa support hezbollah. horray for life.

i don't even know where to begin.


stop being so blind, and drawing lines in the sand.

how is Osama Bin Laden affecting you're every day life? Does he stroll by every day and punk you?


Don't be a worry wort, somethings we have no control over and thats life bro. you take the good with the bad, we humans can't achieve utopia.

man, "fruitcakes" aren't just over there. They are every where.


Eat, drink, be merry.


s'all i can say.

Originally posted by MCory1

Originally posted by worksoftplayhard
its pretty hard to enjoy life when fruitcakes like osama and ahmedijad are allowed to live... even harder after i realized backstabbing canadians in ottowa support hezbollah. horray for life.

I'd like to reiterate what Lysergic said: just enjoy life. They ways you listed above are quite plausible; the world may end in any of those ways (although my understanding has always been that #3 will take more in the order of billions of years, not a couple thousand.) Civilization may also continue on quite peacefully for one reason or another, we end up "seeing the light" and everyone joins hands and loves each other, world peace, blah blah blah.

At the same time, what'll happen if you get in a car wreck tomorrow, caught in a botched bank/store robbery and shot, hit by a bus, whatever? Do you honestly want your last thoughts to be "omg, but we didn't fix the ozone layer!" Would you be able to leave this world with a smile on your face if Canada didn't support Hezbollah? If Osama were confirmed dead, with a body to bury anda (somehow) no doubt left for the world?

Would you gladly pass into the great unknown, leaving your loved ones to mourn you, if we were no longer polluting the air with all those Chevys and Caddilacs? I'm talking an accidental death, not some self-righteous, blaze of glory where you save mankind or something like that, and not some end times armeggedon either. I'm talking about falling in an open manhole cover, or a gas leak that no one notices until after someone lights a smoke. The kind of stuff no one ever thinks will happen to them, but the kind of random stuff that kills more people each year than Hollywood and the evening news let us realize.

Even taking it up a notch, out of the random accidents that can get you at any time and into the bigger stuff. Let's look at everyone's favorite terrorism/conspiracy topic. Is the only thing that 9/11 has left us with a paranoia and distrust of the government? Sorry, but for me 9/11 opened my eyes. It could've been me on any of those planes, or my fiance, my dad or mom, even just a friend. Some jackass with a boxcutter and a political agenda could've taken that away from me, and where would I be left then? Still mad because they made me take out the garbage the week before they left? For me it reaffirmed that life is something that's just too damned short to not enjoy.

That's the reason, imo at least, why you should enjoy life, because neither you nor I (nor anyone else on this board) may live to any kind of melodramatic end of days scenario where humanity cease to exist. Because we all could go at any point in time. If you figure "well, I'll be gone, what's it matter?" then switch it. Your wife/husband/girlfriend/girlfriend/brother/sister/whatever gets forced off the road tomorrow on the way home from work or school, right into a telephone pole or an oncoming car. No terrorism, no drunk behind the wheel, just some moron who couldn't hang up their cell phone long enough to look at the road.

Are you going to be standing by their grave thinking "Gee, we really need to get Bin Laden"? Are you going to eulogize them by touting the blasphemy of fossil fuels? Are you going to think back on the time you spent with them, wishing you had spent less of it trying to be happy with them and more time trying to save humanity? God, I hope not.

I'm sure all this will fall on deaf ears, judging by the tone of your previous posts, but hopefully at some point when you're not mad at whatever's ruffled your feathers you can think about it. And if what I write doesn't do the trick, I hope like Hell someone else can get it through to you.

Pretty much what the above person said: You know you can die ANY DAY and ANY TIME. You can either sit there all day waiting for that bullet, etc to kill you, or you can enjoy life as much as possible, do as much as possible before you die. Life after all, is short, and you don't know when you gonna die, so you gonna just have to make the best of it.

Life is about the experience of living.. good or bad you're always learning something. You may not realize it but it is true.
Just live and enjoy what you have. Sure you should try to improve things as best you can but don't think that even the bad stuff is not important. If the world was perfect there would be nothing to learn or do. we would never grow.

Originally posted by NephraTari
Life is about the experience of living.. good or bad you're always learning something. You may not realize it but it is true.
Just live and enjoy what you have. Sure you should try to improve things as best you can but don't think that even the bad stuff is not important. If the world was perfect there would be nothing to learn or do. we would never grow.

thats easy for you to say. you probably only had one boy/girlfriend. you probably never had more breakups than you can count. you probably havent been lied to by every person you had feelings for. it makes a difference.

Originally posted by worksoftplayhard
thats easy for you to say. you probably only had one boy/girlfriend. you probably never had more breakups than you can count. you probably havent been lied to by every person you had feelings for. it makes a difference.

Yeah it makes a difference. You can either let it bring you down and give up, or--as cliche as it sounds--learn from it and grow. Besides, WTH does a boyfriend/girlfriend have to do with a nuclear war? Or did I miss something? I thought you were getting lost in the big picture; sounds like you're just dwelling on your version of the crappy hand we're all dealt.

Originally posted by NephraTari
Life is about the experience of living.. good or bad you're always learning something. You may not realize it but it is true.
Just live and enjoy what you have.

This is about as true as it gets. You want to dwell on whatever it is your life is missing? Why? My life can be shown to be just as crappy as--if not more than--yours, if I were to detail the bad points. Even if mine isn't, I'd bet you a dime on the dollar that there's 20 people in this world who have it a hell of a lot worse than you, and for each of those another 20 who have it worse than them, then another 20 for each of those, so on and so forth ad nauseum.

And I'd carry on that bet, double or nothing, to say that most of those either don't realize how bad their life is, or they enjoy the parts of their lives that make it worth living. Hell, if nothing else, they're happy for the fact that they even have a live to be miserable with. There's a hell of a lot more people who can't say they have the luxury of even being miserable, than there are people who can piss and moan about not having a good job or not getting the girl/guy they've been wanting.

Originally posted by MCory1

Originally posted by worksoftplayhard
thats easy for you to say. you probably only had one boy/girlfriend. you probably never had more breakups than you can count. you probably havent been lied to by every person you had feelings for. it makes a difference.

Yeah it makes a difference. You can either let it bring you down and give up, or--as cliche as it sounds--learn from it and grow. Besides, WTH does a boyfriend/girlfriend have to do with a nuclear war? Or did I miss something? I thought you were getting lost in the big picture; sounds like you're just dwelling on your version of the crappy hand we're all dealt.

i am lookin at the big picture but when stuff happens to you life it happened to me you realize how fragile this planet is. like a stick. if you bend it to much its gonna snap.

Originally posted by worksoftplayhard

Originally posted by NephraTari
Life is about the experience of living.. good or bad you're always learning something. You may not realize it but it is true.
Just live and enjoy what you have. Sure you should try to improve things as best you can but don't think that even the bad stuff is not important. If the world was perfect there would be nothing to learn or do. we would never grow.

thats easy for you to say. you probably only had one boy/girlfriend. you probably never had more breakups than you can count. you probably havent been lied to by every person you had feelings for. it makes a difference.

I'm 34 years old are you kidding? Pain is a part of life. Certain parts of life are harder to get through then others but later.. the reasons that you went through certain hardships do become clear if you consider them in retrospect. These things that we go through make us who we are. I have endured a hell of a lot more than break ups and cheating boyfriends. Life has not been easy but it is meaningful.

[edit on 19-8-2006 by NephraTari]

Originally posted by Lysergic
just enjoy life and get over it already. stop being so emo.

Agreed.

EEEEMMMOOOOOO

Originally posted by SurfOBBC
EEEEMMMOOOOOO

im not suprized you have more than minus 500 bts points.


[edit on 19-8-2006 by worksoftplayhard]

Originally posted by worksoftplayhard

Originally posted by SurfOBBC
EEEEMMMOOOOOO

im not suprized you have more than minus 500 bts points.


[edit on 19-8-2006 by worksoftplayhard]

Oh my God that's awesome!

Originally posted by worksoftplayhard

Originally posted by SurfOBBC
EEEEMMMOOOOOO

im not suprized you have more than minus 500 bts points.


[edit on 19-8-2006 by worksoftplayhard]

Take things less seriously please ?

It would do you good I promise.

Originally posted by worksoftplayhard
im not suprized you have more than minus 500 bts points.
[edit on 19-8-2006 by worksoftplayhard]

And I'm surprised your actually still here, how many people do you have to insult in one thread? Hell you ask for peoples opinions then bite the head off when they give it.

As the others said, get over yourself and have some fun, its really not that hard to do.

Originally posted by picklewalsh

Originally posted by worksoftplayhard
im not suprized you have more than minus 500 bts points.
[edit on 19-8-2006 by worksoftplayhard]

And I'm surprised your actually still here, how many people do you have to insult in one thread? Hell you ask for peoples opinions then bite the head off when they give it.

As the others said, get over yourself and have some fun, its really not that hard to do.

Picklewalsh you are added to my list of heros...tyvm sir.