Racial Profiling Of Muslims

Look, man, you’re completely out-of-touch with reality. Are you from Mars, or something? Profiling Arabs and other Muslims at air-ports is not only necessary, but it’s also just plain common sense.

Political Correctness has disillusioned your mind.

Sorry my friend but the same could be used against your fear based attitude.

What are the chances that a terrorist is going to be on your next flight? I would say about zero.
That doesnt stop the media and people like you though. You would have us believe that terrorist and lined up heel-and-toe waiting to get on the next flight so they can be a part of the next 9/11.

This unrealistic attitude is exactly why terrorism works. You take a highly unprobable event and magnify it thousands of times to create this mass panic.
So instead of sacrificing our morales of treating people equally, how about we stick to the issue of combating the extremist idealogy (which gives birth to terrorism), and racial profiling isnt the solution.

[edit on 19-8-2006 by xEphon]

Originally posted by AceWombat04
I have a full, unkempt (I don't comb or trim it at all, ever, simply because I choose not to) beard and long, uncut hair. Friends tell me I look like the leader of Hezbollah apart from my significantly paler complexion. I'm not Muslim.

(Note: I had to cut your quote down so my post wouldn't exceed the character limit; sorry.)

That’s a decent, intelligent argument, and I can see where you’re coming from, but I still disagree:

You want statistics to prove that Muslims are more likely to commit acts of terror, particularly in Western countries, than non-Muslims. That’s a reasonable thing to say; but then again, there aren’t any statistics that, according to my knowledge, prove that Muslims are not more likely to engage in terrorist acts than non-Muslims.

In cases where statistics or studies haven’t been conducted to prove something, circumstantial variables should be taken into account. Certainly you’ve observed that all of the perpetrators of the 9/11 atrocity were Muslims, who, if I remember correctly, were of Arab, Egyptian and Lebanese descent; and you certainly observed that the 7/7 attacks on your own soil were carried out by Muslims, with only a small minority being white Muslims. Taking this into account, don’t you think that it’s ridiculous to say that Christians, particularly Western Christians, are just as likely to carry out acts of terror as Muslims? In my opinion it is; and even more so if you take into account cultural and economic and religious differences or inequalities.


Here are some statistics that you might want to take a look at:

www.ukpollingreport.co.uk...

www.channel4.com...

“* 48% never attend a mosque, while 10% attend seven or more times a week
* 30% would like to live under sharia law and 54% under British law
* 28% would like to see Britian become an Islamic state
* 78% support punishing the people who published the 'Danish cartoons'
* 49% think British people who insult Islam should be arrested and prosecuted
* 9% of respondents could be classified as hardcore Islamists, and this does not vary greatly by gender, age or social class
* Only 29% of Muslims believe the Holocaust happened as history teaches it
* 45% of British Muslims believe 9/11 was a conspiracy between Israel and the USA, with only 20% saying it was not a conspiracy
* 22% of British Muslims thought the 7/7 bombings were justified
* 56% say there is no truth at all to the idea Islam treats women as second class citizens
* However 55% say wives should always obey their husbands”

Originally posted by xEphon

Look, man, you’re completely out-of-touch with reality. Are you from Mars, or something? Profiling Arabs and other Muslims at air-ports is not only necessary, but it’s also just plain common sense.

Political Correctness has disillusioned your mind.

Sorry my friend but the same could be used against your fear based attitude.

What are the chances that a terrorist is going to be on your next flight? I would say about zero.
That doesnt stop the media and people like you though. You would have us believe that terrorist and lined up heel-and-toe waiting to get on the next flight so they can be a part of the next 9/11.

This unrealistic attitude is exactly why terrorism works. You take a highly unprobable event and magnify it thousands of times to create this mass panic.
So instead of sacrificing our morales of treating people equally, how about we stick to the issue of combating the extremist idealogy (which gives birth to terrorism), and racial profiling isnt the solution.

[edit on 19-8-2006 by xEphon]

Sorry, I must not have clarified my views or ideas sufficiently, because, judging from the assumptions you made in regard toward viewpoints, it seems as though you’re thinking that I’m thinking a certain way, when in reality I’m not thinking in that particular way: My viewpoint of terrorism, along with all the other issues that surround it, isn’t an irrational, illogical paranoia that stems from baseless foolishness.

While an act of terrorism is a likelihood—a realistic expectation in today’s post-9/11 world—there are probably negligible chances of a terrorist act happening on an air-plane; the reason being because of the massive security measures taken after the W.T.C. atrocity.

Moreover, the circumstantial issues surrounding my country, the U.S.A., are much different than the ones in the U.K. We have a defenseless border that well over 3 million people cross illegally per year; and, according to our Immigration Customs Enforcement (or Border Patrol) agency, who give annual reports of the demographics of criminals, which would include border-crossers, show sufficient data, which has been published on their site and re-published by various organizations, that Muslims, particularly Arabs, are a minority of border-crossers. Estimates are placed at approximately twenty percent. With this in mind, and taking in the consideration that whenever you have a presence of Muslims, however slight, there will always have a certain percentage of them who uphold contemptuous attitudes in regard towards the Western way-of-life (read the Channel 4 survey in my previous post); and thus, the chances of a terrorist act in the U.S. are greater than that of the U.K., so I have reason to worry more about terrorism than British folks do. (Again: my views in regard to terrorism don’t stem from baseless irrationality, but from logical conclusions.)

[edit on 19-8-2006 by James1221]

[edit on 19-8-2006 by James1221]

No way is this racist the fact is suicide bombers are muslims, why stop white people, west indians, chinese, finnish, dutch or whoever when the perpitrators are from the muslim community? In the early 70,s when the ira threat was at its highest the irish community were singled out as ira terrorists tended to come from ireland. There was no outcry of racism from the irish communities, but then we didnt live in a crazy country where political correctness eats away at the fabric of our society and stops us from removing these threats from society, talking of racism surely then the black police officers association is racist? Imagine a white equiviolent?

Originally posted by bellevueace
No way is this racist the fact is suicide bombers are muslims, why stop white people, west indians, chinese, finnish, dutch or whoever when the perpitrators are from the muslim community? In the early 70,s when the ira threat was at its highest the irish community were singled out as ira terrorists tended to come from ireland. There was no outcry of racism from the irish communities, but then we didnt live in a crazy country where political correctness eats away at the fabric of our society and stops us from removing these threats from society, talking of racism surely then the black police officers association is racist? Imagine a white equiviolent?

just to point out stop being ignorant fool
white people can be muslim
black people can be muslim
chineese people can be muslim


comment directed at anyone that doesnt know anything about muslim V
boy this place is full of ignorant racist fools

Originally posted by James1221
You want statistics to prove that Muslims are more likely to commit acts of terror, particularly in Western countries, than non-Muslims. That’s a reasonable thing to say; but then again, there aren’t any statistics that, according to my knowledge, prove that Muslims are not more likely to engage in terrorist acts than non-Muslims.

In cases where statistics or studies haven’t been conducted to prove something, circumstantial variables should be taken into account. Certainly you’ve observed that all of the perpetrators of the 9/11 atrocity were Muslims, who, if I remember correctly, were of Arab, Egyptian and Lebanese descent; and you certainly observed that the 7/7 attacks on your own soil were carried out by Muslims, with only a small minority being white Muslims. Taking this into account, don’t you think that it’s ridiculous to say that Christians, particularly Western Christians, are just as likely to carry out acts of terror as Muslims? In my opinion it is; and even more so if you take into account cultural and economic and religious differences or inequalities.

Surely you can post more than two instances that proves your theory true. I can show you that for every terrorist who you've deem "Muslim," who's attacked a western country, that there are many more instances of non-Muslims carrying out a terrorist attack. Let the numbers speak, friend. Post your data to support your argument.

I would like to offer this link as my reply to this thread...

Over 1 Billion Muslims and Growing

the more we profile a certain race of muslims, the more we'll get 1 legged old ladies as terrorists.

i hate to say it, but groups like al-qaeda are crafty, so profiling will be a temporary solution.