paranormal peoples... all single?

Married with 4 kids, and all 6 of us are into paranormal.

Though you may be on to something...the usual grind in the world, once you are married and have kids you get "serious" or to overwhelmed with life that the only "important" things are work...and work...(did I say work? ) Seriously though, people seem to have a time (college years) where they can explore...and after that they get sucked up in societies various roles.

From what I see and know, Im not saying we are unique, but its not the norm to have a full family into this stuff.

My kids are raised on Eckhart Tolle. (Might not seem paranormal, but anything dealing with life outside the normal day to day grind is unusual with a family.)

Peace

Dalen & Clan

Originally posted by AngelaLadyS
(You can see where this is leading... men are never good for the long haul.

I tend to disagree, but thats the point, cant put everyone in a box.
Happily married 10 years with 4 kids. (I know relatives who had their husband ditch them on the 4th kid cause they didnt want to be tied down.) I guess Im in for the long haul...while Im alive that is.

Peace

Dalen

Originally posted by dAlen

Originally posted by AngelaLadyS
(You can see where this is leading... men are never good for the long haul.

I tend to disagree, but thats the point, cant put everyone in a box.

Happily married 10 years with 4 kids. (I know relatives who had their husband ditch them on the 4th kid cause they didnt want to be tied down.) I guess Im in for the long haul...while Im alive that is.

Peace

Dalen

Well, I can say that my husband of 20 years has never cheated on me (physicaly), is a hard worker, don't go to bars or drink etc... but the porn, the girly pics, those things he don't physicaly do - to me, it's the thought that counts. And I don't think any woman who is not lieing to herself can safely say that her husband is truely faithful completely as he should be (not only physicaly, but mentaly (with his eyes and mind) as well.

I think men are just like that, they don't think it's wrong, we can't change them - but I think I'm better than that. I refuse to go to bed with someone after they were downloading 'sexy girl pics' for their cell phone. It's a slap in the face. It's not jealousy really. Even when I knew I could hold my own up against those airbrushed and implanted girls... I knew it wasn't right.

Originally posted by AngelaLadyS

Well, I can say that my husband of 20 years has never cheated on me (physicaly), is a hard worker, don't go to bars or drink etc... but the porn, the girly pics, those things he don't physicaly do - to me, it's the thought that counts. And I don't think any woman who is not lieing to herself can safely say that her husband is truely faithful completely as he should be (not only physicaly, but mentaly (with his eyes and mind) as well.

I think men are just like that, they don't think it's wrong, we can't change them - but I think I'm better than that. I refuse to go to bed with someone after they were downloading 'sexy girl pics' for their cell phone. It's a slap in the face. It's not jealousy really. Even when I knew I could hold my own up against those airbrushed and implanted girls... I knew it wasn't right.

Wow, you are making some huge assumptions based on your experience.
Just because the majority of men are percieved to be like this, does not mean they all are.

There is a lot to perception...and if a man is not a man...that is, if he is not mature, he will be ruled by his lower member thinking for him.
But some day you (men...and women) have to grow up and realize the practicality of life itself, and why the heck we are here, and not be a slave to the passions, etc.

This is not some bizarre feat...it just appears that way cause of "mass consciousness".

Again, careful with putting everything into a box...in doing so, you remain in one to.
Believe it or not, sex doesnt have to rule a man (or womans) life, and one can be in control of their sexual desires, etc. The key is perception on life...

Peace

Dalen

[edit on 22-8-2006 by dAlen]

Your right. And the key is perception.

Let me tell you a little about my perception. When a person is near me, or a person close to me (even when not physicaly near me) has intense thoughts - I know. I know, feel I guess you'd say, what's going on with them.

Now pretend your a woman. Every time a man passes you, even one with a lady on his arm, he thinks sexual thoughts about you. Strangers, friends, teachers - even some women. Now say, as a female, you are like me, and know what another is thinking about (in general... not specific thoughts exactly). Say you are at home and you feel you husband or BF is thinking about a woman he is looking at in a sexual way. Say you know, for a fact, that if you man had a special button on the side of his computer that would zap him into a screen... that he would be pushing that button every time he could find a sleezy pic to look at (and he used every opportunity that you weren't home to find one).

When you are sensative to particular things, and those things aren't hidden from you as people think they are -

Well, you get what I'm saying. Your right, it turns out there might be men out there that aren't his way. I just haven't stumbled across any yet. Don't get me wrong, I've found good men. And many keep themselves very preoccupied with their own girl as best they can - but let that girl go to work or leave the room and leave the remote to him... or let him get on the computer... or let him go to the gas station where he stands in front of the magazine rack while waiting to pay... and he things that what she don't know won't hurt her. Unfortunatily - I know.

AngelaLadyS,

You may be able to catch on to what I have been trying to say.
Communication is a hard thing, however, you said you can feel peoples thoughts.
(In general)

There you go. Some people are unaware of others thoughts feelings, others are more sensative...
Just as there are different levels of awareness in communication, there can and are different levels of perception...or how one deals with life.

i.e. on one level most men may be this "drooling monkey" when it comes to women/sex,
on another level there are men who have gone beyond this and have "awakened" and are in control of their sexual desires. Period. Not just theory, not just possible...it does exist.

As to why you have not found someone, one reason is cause you are still with the man you chose.
If you mean personally you dont know anyone...I can only say what Ive said from personal experience, it is possible.

See the thing again is perception...
not really much more to be said then what has been said.

One side note: When we allow people to be who they are, without expectations *love* they have room for change and you have room for change. *i.e. no one says you have to remain in a relationship if it is bad*

Anyway, hope this helps

Peace

Dalen

Originally posted by dAlen
AngelaLadyS,
i.e. on one level most men may be this "drooling monkey" when it comes to women/sex,
on another level there are men who have gone beyond this and have "awakened" and are in control of their sexual desires. Period. Not just theory, not just possible...it does exist.
Dalen

That's what I want to hear. I want to hear that they do exist. Maybe not in Jefferson County, but that they do exist.

I guess the more you put into something, the more youexpect something decent of the other person. Believe me, imperfections are not something I care about. Just one - being honest and faithful. And that is the hardest quality to find it seems.

Know what you mean Ang. My hubby was the same way, and I wanted to be able to be one of those people who ...... well.... didnt feel or know. But I do, and understand what you are saying. So, after years of it I told my husband. Low and behold he understood and doesnt do it anymore. Guess Im one of the few lucky ones and for that I will always be greatfull. But have faith girl, they are out there Ive got one to proove it.


I do have another question if I may.....do we all smoke?

.... draws circles on the ground with her bare foot toe ...

Smoke? Yeah. One of my imperfections.

SMOKE BRAKE!

I know when my partner is lying and when he has secrets. Its weird, I even react to a secret or a lie and not know that I am, like throwing up or my mind goes scatty. Dont get me wrong, its not me as Ive had all the confirmations that I was reacting to something real and not 'making it up'. He may drop hints or not, it really doesnt matter, I tend to know anyway.

It was hard listening to lies when my intuition was screaming its all wrong, I used to believe in what I heard as opposed to my intuition as I could be (hoped to be) wrong. But I was never wrong. He used to play mind games too but they didnt work too well when I could sense right through it and not play back (sometimes I did, just to see if I was right, which I was).

Big thing I have learnt, in respect to intuition is, despite the fact Ive been typing "I knew" or "I was right", I dont actually attribute it to me. For instance I dont think Im miss know-it-all because intuition was right but that Ive been granted this extra information like someone who has drawing skills or a mathmactical mind.

Oh yes, and I smoke!

Originally posted by Dae
Big thing I have learnt, in respect to intuition is, despite the fact Ive been typing "I knew" or "I was right", I dont actually attribute it to me. For instance I dont think Im miss know-it-all because intuition was right but that Ive been granted this extra information like someone who has drawing skills or a mathmactical mind.

Yes - I know exactly what you mean. I feel the same way. It's like I 'know', but it certainly didn't come from me. I can't take the credit for the info, I just happen to be the one to get it.

I see some really old fashioned christian-like ways of thinking. You can't have impure thoughts blablabla.

I'll say the same thing as I did to my girlfriend. What I do is my own and if you have problems with my thoughts then you just put up a shield and block my thoughts out of your head. I'm not going to put up mine, because I don't mind what others think and will not judge them by it. Ethically you're not even supposed to know or feel, because it is privacy you're breaking here. Not one individiual can be 100% loyal, because there are more people to like and love. I'm not someones property that can be claimed nor are you. So just accept it and focus on the actions because they count more then words. And hey...I'm still with you...gee there must be more to a relationship then only sex huh?

Even though women say they don't, but they look frequently at men as well. So why can't we look at women? Oh nice ass. But that doesn't mean you want to spend a night with that woman or have further sexual fantasies. And even if you did...so what. We reached a point that my GF finally admits it and when we walk in the city she doesn't mind saying to me "oh that guy looks hot". As long as they are fantasies. They can be quite healthy and give new inspiration to spice up the personal sex life.

In most cases it isn't even sexual to begin with. You're just admiring other people's bodies. Unless you start to masterbate, then it is more sexual.

People just have to learn to think outside the box and the useless indoctrinations they grew up with. Bah "old" folks these days, so rusted they are.


[edit on 23-8-2006 by Enyalius]

Well, the Dutch in general are very open minded and loose when it comes to sex, more than any other country that I know. So you may have been brought up in a very 'different' environment, or perhaps it's just you. But this is the second thread where I've seen you argue bluntly and be very harsh to folk. I'll tell you what I told others, for an 'awakened one' that kind of behavior is unseemly. You can conduct yourself in a better manner, it's easy.. just try.

You can't impose your way on everybody else, and if you have an issue with our opinions here, it's your problem man. The issue we're dealing with is very subjective. Some people prefer to live one way. Some people prefer to live another way. As long as the parties involved aren't hurt and both prefer that way of life, this diveristy should not be a problem. If you are responding to our statement that our love is better, purer and more moral than what you are advocating, I think you should get over it. What people are ready for is what's best for them. If something different is best for us, why complain?

[edit on 23/8/06 by SteveR]

Originally posted by mrsdudara
I do have another question if I may.....do we all smoke?

Nope. My belief and personal research led me to believe that energetical workings are more effective when having a pure body. Pure in both healthy as well as having as little psychological/emotional barrieres. This will allow the universal energies to flow more freely to you and thus can do more and effectively.

So I excercise regularly at the gym. Do mainly running and biking, minor lower body muscles and upper body muscles. I'm broad from nature so need to keep it in shape.

Next to that eat healthy. I'm not a vegetarian or something and eat like any other human being with fair amounts of meat. I can't eat if there is no meat

Drinking is mainly juices and water with on occasion a glass of mead or whiskey. Alcohol in some degree is healthy to keep your vessels open and cleaned.

No smoking, but when my gf gets some weed I usually take a few intakes as well.

Next to that meditation. People use this to quiet the mind, but this is not what meditation is for. It is used to become more aware of everything, including your thoughts. Very confrontational which allows you to find out who you are and "fix" or understand aspects of yourself better. Come clean and get rid of barrieres. This I do once a month for 8 hours straight. On occasion when there is a big question which I need to contemplate on a higher level then regular life then I can stay in meditation for as long as needed. Longest one to date was 19 hours. Also going several times a year to a Budhist monastary for 10 days in order to do Vipasana meditation does wonders as well.

Originally posted by SteveR
Well, the Dutch in general are very open minded and loose when it comes to sex, more than any other country that I know. So you may have been brought up in a very 'different' environment, or perhaps it's just you. But this is the second thread where I've seen you argue bluntly and be very harsh to folk. I'll tell you what I told others, for an 'awakened one' that kind of behavior is unseemly.

People always assume that being "awake" or "enlightent" means having to be nice. Which is bull. I'm just a direct individual, so be it. Unfortunately most people don't even understand what those words mean.

And harsh? Hardly. Just low on patience with individual that don't really know what they are talking about. That and I don't feel the need to explain often and thus get right to the point and what people do with it is upto them.

The dutch are pretty open minded. You have to be with so many different people living in such a close proximity. Down side is that due to our liberal way of live the USA has said several times that we're a country full of nazi's Bleh calling the kettle black there. Since that whole fundamentalism stuff starting many marrocans are causing a lot of issues. Before the gays could walk freely and due to marrocans they no longer can. Wimps terrorising people. Then when we try to do something about it we get the entire global community on top of us for not being open enough. Then when we open up we're suddenly people who have no standards and blah blah more bull#.

Like that pedophile part being allowed to form and run for seats in the government. Democracy states that you should give anyone a chance. But we're not stupid. It was fairly clear before hand that they wouldn't get many votes and would get 1 seat if they were lucky. Most parties that start don't even last long enough to survive the elections to begin with. But no, the international community (read america) shows how disgusted they are with allowing such a party in the elections. What would they do? Probably break their own constitution of freedom of speech and democraticy which they hold oh so dear.

hmm...went bit of topic here it seems Just woke up and my brain works so fast atm that I get a thousand thoughts per second it feels like. Annoying when the rest can't keep up yet.

Originally posted by Enyalius
I see some really old fashioned christian-like ways of thinking. You can't have impure thoughts blablabla.

I'll say the same thing as I did to my girlfriend.

You know you come across as a tad narcissistic

I personally wasnt talking about 'impure thoughts', I was talking about lies and unappropiate behaviour and knowing about it ...

I know, Ill quote a Korn song:
"Liar, you say that she is the only one you desire, liar"

hohum.

been in several relationships, though none of them lasted longer than a week.

I guess people just get scared.

Originally posted by Dae
You know you come across as a tad narcissistic

Nah not a tad. I just am and damn proud of it and got a reason to be as well

ahah

recently having opened myself up and becomming alot more empathetic i have enriched the love between me and my girlfriend... also have very deep and loving relationships with other woman.

doesnt matter if you are single, love will find you. The right person will come up and then you should open up and let them in.

Thats my oppinion

(ive been wasting to many of my meditation sessions and energies on this kind of stuff ): )

Enyalius,
I see your point. I won't go into the purity of the heart - that isn't a good topic for you. lol Nor will I go into what it does to a relationship etc.
But in particular, I want to address the intimate part. When a person is supose to share the sexual and most intamate part of themselves with only one person, and they take that and give it/share it with others... it's just wrong and hurtful. I don't care what 'today's' world views are.
If 2 people decide it's ok, fine... (we aren't talking moraly here... just as far as the worldy views)... but if one person excludes his or her spouse from thier sexual or most intamate part of themselves... it kills part of the relationship, they no longer grow closer, and they begin shutting people out. When something has to be a secret - chances are it's wrong.

So if one need to do porn etc before going to lay with his spouce (indication and proof that there is a problem by the way) - and the spouse don't care, although they are lacking something special - each to their own. But if one sneaks off and hides what he's doing, lies about it, cuts his spouse off from his needs and wants - they problems aren't just there - they become the begining of the end.