What's the next step?

I don't start too many threads, because I am one of those people who can post to a thread and bring it up to a screeching halt. But ... I have a question, based on some supposition.

Let us, for the sake of this discussion, assume that aliens are real, and that UFOs really are their vehicles. Based on the fact that so many folks adently defend that point of view, I think that is fair. Now. Further supposition ... We finally get confirmation from the government that they have, actually, tracked and even perhaps, interfaced with aliens from another planet.

What do we do next?

Is all this posting of threads and arguing simply a way to get the non-believers to believe, or come out of the closet? Does it matter if the government ever does "come clean"? Do we then plan on how we can get the aliens to come down and talk to us? Do we simply nod our heads in a knowing fashion and get on with life? What???... What is the next logical step if we do rassle the government to the ground and they 'fess up, and we all go "OK! I guess we can't deny the reality of the aliens in UFOs, any longer"???

It is my sincerest hope that I have followed all the protocols in posting this so that someone may provide an answer.

I would say....

running in circles screaming would be the next logical step.

You for some reason caused me to think of the latest War of the Words movie. I actually just saw it recently and was really affected in that it is almost like a dream sequence of terror. Especially when they are in the basement and it's like there's nowhere to turn or when they climb out of the water only to see more aliens closing in over the hilly horizon.

It's just so surreal that I think people would be in a state of shock. You can say all you want about what you would do or how you would feel but no one is 100% sure of anything and if it happened I don't think anyone can honestly say what they would do or what the next step would be.

Actually a very good question but it´s kinda hard to discuss since the next step will comepletly depend on what is brought forth by government/aliens.

If we´re talking nothing except the fact that the cat is let out of the bag it´s really nothing to do, except browse ATS and point noses to all those who don´t believe

If the disclosure took the same shape as in War of the Worlds i guess panic would be a fair alternative especially as the real world tends to have less happy endings as opposed to Hollywood productions. It would be really grim

I'm saying disclosure of any type would cause pandamonium. People are so conditioned by the media (Example being WOTW) that they would not be able to handle it no matter what anyone says here on ATS.

You have to realize that the average Joe is not here discussing it. The average Joe (no matter what he says) believes he is the only "intelligent" life around.

but as for those hard core UFO/Alien/Ultraterrestrial sceptics, many of whom are active participants of this board, unfortunately..... if news came out that we believers were right all along, you can bet your boots that they would admit nothing, deny everything and still continue to make counter- accusations that all we believers are complete LOONS. In my view, nothing would change.

IMO ...

Shock and Awe followed by WTF!?

Shock - As in the .Gov/Aliens decided to do so.

Awe - As in What must the capabilities/repercussions be?

WTF - As in Where do we go/What do we do from here?

* not suggesting that any of the above will occur in our lifetime, But ....

Please realize that All of the above are subject to the happenstance and/or level of said "disclosure".

If any such "disclosure" were to cast doubt on the multitude of religious followings I think we, as the human race, would be in for "Quite the ride". Oh boy ...

If it was determined that we, the populace of planet Earth, were nothing more than a test tube experiment, played like a harp, Again, we're in for "Quite the ride".

If said "disclosure" resulted in nothing more than, "Hey, they're out there!?" ... Still I'd have to think we're in for "Quite the ride"!?

In the end, and regardless of How/What is disclosed, I'd have to say we would be in for "Quite the ride"!?.

? thoughts ?




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[edit on 8/10/2006 by 12m8keall2c]

"Quite a ride" says it all. I'm also willing to bet that as humans, many of the so called "hard core" people would be quite shocked in their own right.

I can see it now: You mean we are right? Holy crap! We're right! I'm not so sure I want to be right now that I know I'm right....

I'd venture to guess that believers would be in shock as well.

Sorry,

Just noticed the redundancy in my last post.

Exopolitics.

Coming with rules and laws to interact with them. There is already groups or organisations doing that kind of work.

Produce technology to remove fossil fuels.
Terra-forming our deserted areas.
Making food and water more available.
Introducing birth restriction laws across the planet.
Looking into health issues and new ways to deal with virus, disease and such.

Those are the ones that comes to mind at first.

ATS would instantly become anti-alien, claiming that aliens are actually humans in green/gray skin.

Perhaps the next step is for some public citizens to get involved and attempt to establish contact. The problem though is: how?

Morse Code /w a laser toward the night sky? lol!

Well... I am serious though about far greater general (active) participation.

[edit on 10-8-2006 by MetaBeta]

Originally posted by sigung86
What do we do next?

If the news is at all favorable, meaning the aliens don't have an immediate plan to round us up and kill us and eat us all, then we'll probably get right to work trying to figure out: a) how we can make some money from these aliens, and b) how we can get them to believe in Jesus. Not necessarily in that order.

Originally posted by sigung86
I don't start too many threads, because I am one of those people who can post to a thread and bring it up to a screeching halt. But ... I have a question, based on some supposition.

Let us, for the sake of this discussion, assume that aliens are real, and that UFOs really are their vehicles. Based on the fact that so many folks adently defend that point of view, I think that is fair. Now. Further supposition ... We finally get confirmation from the government that they have, actually, tracked and even perhaps, interfaced with aliens from another planet.

What do we do next?

Is all this posting of threads and arguing simply a way to get the non-believers to believe, or come out of the closet? Does it matter if the government ever does "come clean"? Do we then plan on how we can get the aliens to come down and talk to us? Do we simply nod our heads in a knowing fashion and get on with life? What???... What is the next logical step if we do rassle the government to the ground and they 'fess up, and we all go "OK! I guess we can't deny the reality of the aliens in UFOs, any longer"???

It is my sincerest hope that I have followed all the protocols in posting this so that someone may provide an answer.

I would have to imagine the situation is a little more complex than that.

Disclosure will only happen when we go back to a truly real form of government for the people, I don't think that's ever going to happen because now that the vote is electronic by the same token, that ensure's that there will never be a real electoral vote again.
The only way disclosure might happen is by the sheer power of the entities themselves to show up and outsmart the human supposed intellect that's in power(that won't be hard) but when i think of SDI or star wars i can't help but think that those weapons are in fact to prevent exactly that.

Too much money at stake.

[edit on 10-8-2006 by Conluceo]

Originally posted by Toc
Exopolitics.

Coming with rules and laws to interact with them. There is already groups or organisations doing that kind of work.

Produce technology to remove fossil fuels.
Terra-forming our deserted areas.
Making food and water more available.
Introducing birth restriction laws across the planet.
Looking into health issues and new ways to deal with virus, disease and such.

Those are the ones that comes to mind at first.

That would be utopian and the simple solution would be to teach exopolitics at school and who know's maybe one day it will be, but, it's an incomplete subject so realistically, it can' t be done. i like the way you think though

Originally posted by Conluceo


I would have to imagine the situation is a little more complex than that.

Disclosure will only happen when we go back to a truly real form of government for the people, I don't think that's ever going to happen because now that the vote is electronic by the same token, that ensure's that there will never be a real electoral vote again.
The only way disclosure might happen is by the sheer power of the entities themselves to show up and outsmart the human supposed intellect that's in power(that won't be hard) but when i think of SDI or star wars i can't help but think that those weapons are in fact to prevent exactly that.

Too much money at stake.

[edit on 10-8-2006 by Conluceo]

Conluceo ... I wanted to cut down the size of your quote, but didn't really know where to begin. This is not a discussion, at least in my mind, of all the possible to impossible causes for the effect. I'm not really at all curious about the government of, for, and by the people that would make it possible. All I want anyone to do is suspend their belief systems for a moment, like all the folks who don't like skeptics ask us to do, and tell me what might be the next logical step.

Rather than obfuscate it all with all kinds of rhetoric, I am simply curious as to why:

a) It is so important to try and make the government admit that UFOs exist. After all, they are going to exist, or not, regardless of what our governments do or do not do. The non-skeptics already have proven this time and time again by the way they tend to mass around and denigrate people who either do not believe, or are sitting on the fence with no particular strong thought about it either way.

b) Once we did get the government to admit that they "believe" that UFOs exist, or they have definitive proof that UFOs exist, what do we all do then?

Just how earth shattering is it to get someone (the government) to validate what all the pro-UFO folks believe they are lying about anyway? Do the UFOs then become anymore valid? Do we become any less capable of progressing, or at least not regressing as a civilization? Do we, as some posters proclaim here, become drooling, psychopaths, who no longer have the faith in our ability as human beings to carry on without raping, pillaging, plundering, and killing each other off in grand scale? Do we find that we are unable to function, simply because what we have set as a base belief without reliable evidence that the reality of UFOs makes us suddenly incapable?

That is the source of my questions. I kind of am following exoterrestrial here. First, if there were evidence of the existence that were concrete, then that is very cool. However, even if there were, and everyone suddenly knew it... How do we proceed?

Very few thoughtful answers here, but much emotional rhetoric. I'm still looking for a plan of action that makes sense.

Originally posted by Toc
Exopolitics.

Coming with rules and laws to interact with them. There is already groups or organisations doing that kind of work.

Produce technology to remove fossil fuels.
Terra-forming our deserted areas.
Making food and water more available.
Introducing birth restriction laws across the planet.
Looking into health issues and new ways to deal with virus, disease and such.

Those are the ones that comes to mind at first.

Thanks for the post Toc. But I'm wondering, if these efforts are already in place, how do you think the validation of UFOs as entities from a different world are going to make any difference?

Thanks for the thoughts.

Originally posted by jbondo
I would say....

running in circles screaming would be the next logical step.

What would their response to that be?

Be not afraid
-- every otherworldly messenger in the old & new testament.

[edit on 10-8-2006 by Esoteric Teacher]

Some of you are probably being tucked into bed right now, so you will have to read this in the morning.

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher

Originally posted by jbondo
I would say....

running in circles screaming would be the next logical step.

What would their response to that be?

Be not afraid
-- every otherworldly messenger in the old & new testament.

[edit on 10-8-2006 by Esoteric Teacher]

That is my dry sense of humor. However, there is a hint of truth in it and I would expect widespread panic no matter the intentions of the "visitors". As I've explained, many people say they believe but when it becomes reality, I mean real reality; things tend to get out of hand.

Just to let you know Toc, the world population is getting progressively older and eventually it will start to get smaller.

sigung86, you want to know the next step but you it's difficult to tell what your meaning is.

As I've said, I see some sort of panic scenario happening. It may bring about riots in the streets or mass exodus to somehow "escape" the unknowns of it all. If the world leaders have known for awhile then I guess the next step is to rationalize it to the people in order to maintain order. Then a slow integration or release of information to educate the general population. I'm sure that many people will arm themselves and what little trust we had in government will go right out the window. There could even be attempts to overthrow the US Government.

I think many people think the biggest impact will be to religious belief systems, I disagree. I am a Christian and see no reason why God couldn't have created life on other planets. Many of my peers claim that if this was the case then He would have told us in the Bible to which I reply: Why? You have many questions for God that are unanswered in the Bible; this would just be one more.

I just see allot of chaos on so many levels it's hard to see beyond. If by some miracle it went over smoothly it would then turn into a world of people looking up constantly wondering if "they" are coming. I just think life as we know it would come to a screeching halt and never be the same again, at least not in my lifetime.

"What next" is a great question, it's also very difficult....

Originally posted by sigung86

Originally posted by Toc
Exopolitics.
...
Those are the ones that comes to mind at first.

Thanks for the post Toc. But I'm wondering, if these efforts are already in place, how do you think the validation of UFOs as entities from a different world are going to make any difference?

Thanks for the thoughts.

Validation of UFOs. Do you mean when we prove they exist? For me the question is not the proof anymore. But we are all at certain degree of acceptance. There is just too much evidences out there. As soon as i saw the NASA video, with the globes of lights running around the astronauts and watched Dr Greer presenting all the witnesses I was set.

For me, the next step is how do we initiate contact. I hope to get my answers from CSeti.org and the training program they have.

But there will be no real heavy interaction until we have spiritualy evolved, I'm 100% sure about this one. Very small and isolated groups have contacts only.

So you want to do something to shorten the gap between you and the our space brothers? Sit and think and meditate and reflect on your actions and the actions of the society and your relatives. Try to find simple actions in your day to day lives that could help. A simple smile, a thought, an action, a kind word, trying to educate people about good things. It doesn't need to be complicated.

I friend of mine told me 2 weeks ago, "We don't sit and think anymore, we should be taking 20 minutes each day and take some time to see what's going on in our lives".

Edit: Fixed typo.

[edit on 11-8-2006 by Toc]