President Bush and his brief speech

Wow, I'm glad he stopped in Wisconsin to tell is that there are terrorists out to get us. That shed a whole new light on this War on Terrorism thing I haven't seen yet.

Now in all seriousness. Do you think he looked rattled? I mean we all know that he's not a great speaker but he seemed pretty shaken up like I've never seen him before. Do you think this may allude to something possibly happening on Aug 22nd as some have mentioned?

Could you provide a link, etc to the speech?

Well, I guess I'd rather hear our president say something rather then nothing. I heard he was on a 'working' vacation though... I dont know if now is the time for that... Now that you mention his voice I do recall it sounding a little different. Almost like when somebody is startled or shook up. I wouldn't say its anything to worry about though..

Here is the link, sorry that it has to be Fox News but it was the only source that allowed me to actually link this too you.


Click here to watch video

Just pay attention to his voice.

He did seem rattled, although given the situation I would expect that.

I see that "shoot, they almost got us again" look on his face and sound in his voice though.

[edit on 10-8-2006 by DaFunk13]

It sounded to me like typical GWB - difficulty speaking fluently without cue cards. I don't think he looked rattled.

However I did notice how he seemed to be using the opportunity to reinforce the need for increased "security measures" by saying the plot was foiled "because we've given our officials the tools necessary to stop terror" and also that "Americans need to realize we aren't safe but the government will do everything they can to help us" (both quotes from memory not verbatim).

I wouldn't be surprised to see more security laws, etc being pushed by this administration.

I'd agree with you. We will definately see increased security measures after this one. Since the UK has greater powers than the United States over the civilian population you will probably see the US to begin trying to model after them more.

Originally posted by build319
Do you think this may allude to something possibly happening on Aug 22nd as some have mentioned?

Forgot about this point. You may very well be correct on this (and very good observation by the way).

Has anyone determined yet when this plot was to take place?

We've been discussing Aug 22nd on this (and other) threads www.abovetopsecret.com... but speculating that "lighting up the sky" would be nuclear in nature.

However, many people feel Iran simply doesn't have nuclear capabilites yet. So it's possible that blowing up 10 or so airplanes would deliver the desired affect. If so, perhaps we need to be looking at Iran as a suspect to this as well as Al Qaeda.

You guys kill me. What's wrong with more security? Have you really lost any civil liberties? I am so tired of the paranoid rhetoric. You know, if the government wants to listen to my phone calls, then they can knock themselves out. I have nothing to hide. Do you?

I could go on and on in reference to this topic, but I know there's no sense - you guys are all so sure this whole terrorism issue is some kind of huge government conspiracy. If so, why? Who wins? Do you folks really think if Gore would have been in the White House 9-11 would not have happened? Please!

Originally posted by mecheng
However, many people feel Iran simply doesn't have nuclear capabilities yet. So it's possible that blowing up 10 or so airplanes would deliver the desired affect. If so, perhaps we need to be looking at Iran as a suspect to this as well as Al Qaeda.

If you are looking for some good books to read about that Middle East and Iran , anything that you can from Robert Baer would be recommended. He is probably one of the most knowledgeable people on this subject and he was an undercover CIA agent who was actually stationed in Iraq and Iran for a number of years. He doesn't have many good things to say about Iran and that everything we said about Iraq should have actually been about Iran since they do have all these capabilities and ties. Iran scares me.


undecided2
So what gives here? Who here said anything about hating Bush? I also didn't say there was anything wrong with more security, you just misinterpreted my statement. There is a very simple truth though. As the threat of terror goes up, people will be more than willing to give the government more power. There is a very fine line that we are treading on, you give the Government too much power and there is a greater chance of that power being abused and this goes for whoever is in office, Republican or Democrat.....or as I like to call them Dumbo's and Asses.

You have completely misconstrued everything I started here and attempted to make this a political conspiracy thing. Again, I said nothing of this. This is about President Bush sounding rattled today during his speech. I am pointing out the possibility that there maybe something that he's not telling us and that something maybe over the horizon. This has nothing to do with conspiracy but rather, he probably cannot tell us what our Homeland Security Agents are working on due to jeopardizing an investigation. I'm just trying to connect the dots here so puuuulllleeeaaazzeee get off your political high horse and see this thread for what it is.

Now back on topic!

i agree, i think he was rattled when he gave that speech. either that or, it was totally unprepared and he really didnt know how to go about talking to us about what was going on. ? im sure that the govt. knows alot more than they are telling us. some people can handle catastrophic news and some people will freak out and there would be mass chaos.

anyway, i would like to see how this all unfolds.

im out
-mindtrip02

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I've not seen to many of his videos or conferences, not enough to be able to discern with such critical, however what I did notice was that this breathing seemed a bit strong and heavy though perhaps it could all have well been an act as has been the case so many times afore.

More security measures based upon supposed terrorist plots seems to be the easy way to gain more administrative and other such powers and I'm still under the impression that they will finalize a heavy blow to personal liberties with one last devestating terrorist blow that will certainly secure them the nessecary means to carry out their agenda in the Middle East and the rest of the regions of the world that need not be in the hands of other compromising nation's interests.

Luxifero

Originally posted by undecided2
You guys kill me. What's wrong with more security? Have you really lost any civil liberties?

Yup. Now every friggin major event I go has loads of security people patting you down, ruffling through your stuff, ect.

People leaving or entering the U.S. now have to give thumbscans and retina scans, regardless of who they are.

Ever read the Patriot Act?

I am so tired of the paranoid rhetoric.

Yeah, so am I. All these people paranoid about terrorists out to get them, so taking away civil rights, privacy, and liberties is a fair exchange for security. Makes me sick.

That's the goal: to create a climate where citizens will foster a sense of necessity of physical security in lieu of all other liberties and freedoms granted to them under the constitution; a society where terms like collateral damage and preventative wars are normative and define some abstract struggle that is beyond the comprehension of the American people, an abstract struggle that only our elected lineage of leaders that recycle themselves over decades can fix.

It's becoming a sorry state, perhaps becuase we know so much and can do only so little, trapped in a glass house as the world falls apart, outside, before our very eyes....

Luxifero

[edit on 10-8-2006 by Luxifero]

I noticed that Bush sounded like gasping for air. . . and he did look kind of distress perhaps he will feel uncomfortable with another 9/11.

Now as for this post.

You guys kill me. What's wrong with more security? Have you really lost any civil liberties?

Is nothing wrong with more security as long as our civil rights are respected but that is not what is happening in our country right now.

If I want to talk in my phone that I pay with my hard earned tax payer dollar I expect privacy and respect and is not the government darn business what my conversations are all about.

See is not only Suspected terrorist involved here but regular citizens too we all pay for sinners.

you guys are all so sure this whole terrorism issue is some kind of huge government conspiracy.

No only part of a conspiracy but the result of bad policies toward a region that has been deemed evil when it doesn't want to bend to American private interests.

Terrorist are real they will harm people and harm nations but fueling their resetnment is not going to make us any safer.

i didnt catch his speach today because i was at work, but i did have this same impression your getting the other day. it was a speach he gave with condi at the ranch sometime last week reguarding the israeli / hezbollah conflict. the look of fear or whatever it was on their faces made me nervous. it kinda reminded me of the look on his face while he sat through the reading of " my pet goat " or whatever on the morning of 9/11. im starting to think they know were about to be hit hard in the states, or they know something that is of their doing is about to kill many innocent people somewhere in the world. just my .01 cents.

Originally posted by mecheng
It sounded to me like typical GWB - difficulty speaking fluently without cue cards. I don't think he looked rattled.

If all these conspiracies are true, what human being can possibly "act normal" under the stress??? Supposedly, he knows the "real truth".....I wonder how he can pull off any speech without flipping out or fainting on national TV.
Imagine the stress of it all.

Originally posted by undecided2
You guys kill me. What's wrong with more security? Have you really lost any civil liberties? I am so tired of the paranoid rhetoric. You know, if the government wants to listen to my phone calls, then they can knock themselves out. I have nothing to hide. Do you?

I could go on and on in reference to this topic, but I know there's no sense - you guys are all so sure this whole terrorism issue is some kind of huge government conspiracy. If so, why? Who wins? Do you folks really think if Gore would have been in the White House 9-11 would not have happened? Please!

Alot of guys on this site still think it's 1776 and we are fighting the british.

I don't think he look rattled either, just the usual having a hard time getting the words out. Was he going from memory today rather than reading them out? I did see Karl Rove's jolly face as he got off the plane and later when the enormous motorcade left. Man that was about 30 armored vehicles!

As for who wins in a terrorist conspiracy well the answer to that is big business isn't it? Arms sales mainly and any gov that wants to ramp up on removing civil liberty and invade privacy. Do I get a banana? As long as it's not yellow

This isn't really a matter of who wins, who loses or who's behind it. This is about whats next.

Conspiracy or no, something else seems to be beyond the horizon and President Bush seemed a bit miffed by it all.

My suspicions are that this was only part of something much bigger. Atty. Gen Alberto Gonzolas stated this morning in a radio interview that we just "disrupted" this event and that we may have not "stopped" it. Thats a worrysome admission from our government.