A major issue

The ecosystem is a vital organ of the planet. I have observed people clear there property of trees for no reason. I think their should be a law that says you have to keep at least 50% of your property forested. Is that unreasonable? Where I moved to. there are people ripping whole oak trees out of the ground with tractors for new buildings, piling them up and BURNING them. OAK! Cant they at least use it or sell it to the furniture business?

Kiln dried white oak goes for about $3.50 a board foot! I think a board foot is 1”x12”x12”. I mean, those trees that would just get burned could be sold to a lumber business and spare other trees.



Forests act as a heat sink and deforested areas are considerably hotter. I believe that trees also preserve our water table by keeping the sun from beating the dirt and slowing down evaporation of rainwater.

Wildflower diversity is in decline and therefore reeking havoc on the insects. There is some butterflies that are listed as extinct. They haven’t been seen since the 60’s. I know a lot of you could care less about bugs but this is a small part of a big problem.

Step back and view this from afar. We are like siblings bickering as our house is burning down. If Sagan seen it now he would be pissed. With the selling of the national forests adding to his grief.

Originally posted by Marclar
The ecosystem is a vital organ of the planet. I have observed people clear there property of trees for no reason. I think their should be a law that says you have to keep at least 50% of your property forested. Is that unreasonable?

Yes. Private property is just that, private property. Why should my land use be dictated by your feelings?

Because the ecosystem is vital for keeping the planet alive. Unless your religious of course. Trees are not private property.

Stop picking on me.

[edit on 5-8-2006 by Marclar]

What, are you u2uing people telling them not to respond to my threads or something? Stop picking on me. I hardly ever get any responses. I’m only trying.

Originally posted by Marclar
Because the ecosystem is vital for keeping the planet alive.

And a law preventing people from cutting down trees on their home property will do nothing to preserve the ecosystem.

Unless your religious of course.

Thats a pointless and obviously untrue slam against people here. There are a lot of reasons for why a person might not be in favour of having laws preventing people from using their property. No one even mentioned religion.

Trees are not private property.

Clearly, they are.

Stop picking on me.

If you don't want to talk to people who disagree with you, don't participate in a public discussion board.

hardly ever get any responses. I’m only trying.

Maybe you don't get many responses because people don't find anything worth dicsussing in your topics, or because they know that you are rude and incapable of holding a discussion.

Touché.

I am not rude my good sir, and there are many that do a worse job and get less flak. and since I like you so much I’ll give you a way above vote for identifying my worthless threads and yet out of the kindness of your heart you continue to participate. Thank you kindly.

Wait……I cant find it, oh well. I still vote for you though!

Have you ever been hiking? It’s really fun. Nice fresh air……beautiful scenery. It really is good for the brain. You from Australia? Id like to go there sometime. Very unique environment. They also have lots of gemstones there too. Corundum, beryl, diamond, and lightning ridge opal of course. They’ve got some good gold. Better than California’s gold by a long shot. I’ll have to tell ya, don’t forget to stop and smell the roses. If you don’t, you’ll regret it when your older.

Trees are a habitat in themselves. They are very important to many organisms including humans. I heard this comment once, I cant remember where, it said: “we need the trees more than they need us.” this goes for everything else in the ecosystem., and, after all, it is the most important thing on this PLANET EARTH.

Nygdan.. I needed that laugh.

Marclar I am all for the enviroment but you can't tell people what to do with their own land, some people just don't like trees and that is their choice.

Who is picking on you? You gave a topic about infringing on peoples natural rights and you expect everyone to go along with you??? It is simply a dumb idea.

Originally posted by Marclar
Because the ecosystem is vital for keeping the planet alive. Unless your religious of course. Trees are not private property.

Stop picking on me.

[edit on 5-8-2006 by Marclar]

Sounds like something my 14 year old sister would say after loosing an argument due to her ignorance and just before running to her room crying.

So far as your religion comment, you seem very religious to me; you are a nature worshiper. You think the "environment" is more important than the progress or well being if you prefer, of mankind. You hold that a tree is more important than a person, so long as that person is an evil environment killer, am I right?

"It's such a horrible world" I can almost hear you quibbling. Well then do something about it, why don’t you! I am sure, seeing as trees are more important to Mother Nature than humans, that you will have no problem lying down next to an oak, closing your eyes forever, and fertilizing it. Please, if not for us, than do it for Mother Nature.

Nock it off.

I don't think the environment is more important than people, and I’m not a nature worshipper. At least some of the environment needs to be preserved in order for mankind to survive.

In other words, it is the most important thing to our survival.

[edit on 6-8-2006 by Marclar]

Originally posted by Marclar
In other words, it is the most important thing to our survival.
[edit on 6-8-2006 by Marclar]

I dont know about that...I think not eating rat poison is the most important thing to our survival

The impact of deforestation and it‘s consequence:

Drought: this impacts agriculture.
Erosion: landslides, property destruction.
Mass die offs of insects and wildlife: crops will not be pollinated nor will anything else.
Possible drop in o2 levels: not much can live without oxygen.
Trees act sort of like a heat sink: it will get hot, remember the dust bowl?

On the other hand here are the advantages of deforestation:

Wood: you get to have lots of nice furniture.
Less work: you don’t have to rake leafs and pine needles.
Sunshine: your lawn gets more sun thus making it more green.
Panoramic views: no more trees blocking your view.
No bird crap: birds will no longer feel welcome.
Open space: makes way for large towns and cities.
Firewood: reduces heating costs.
If you don’t like wilderness: no more unsightly views.

So I could understand where your coming from. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Marclar, are you playing games with us? Your response to Nygdan certainly indicates you are baiting people to see how we will respond.

What is the point, is it just for fun? I have this silly expectation that people sharing on these threads do so out of sincerity, but I am having second thoughts.

If in fact you are having the social communication issues implied by your posts then I do hope you find someone to help you because IMO I feel you are either playing or crying out for help.