Syria moving into position

Just a quick heads-up but just been scanning through news articles and noticed this one.

newsblaze.com...



Could it all be about to get a whole lot worse???

Originally posted by theallseeing
Could it all be about to get a whole lot worse???

Well, like the article says their are in a state of preparing their armies and securing the borders of Lebanon/Syria. If it stays that way, then there is no problem... That is if Israel doesn't try to lure them into a fight somehow.

what do you guys think a limited war would mean, if he did indeed say such a thing. putting a group together to disrupt the golan heights, would be interesting.

all hearsay though at the mo

The link below defines a limited war quite nicely, but in brief it can mean a war between two countries but one which is 'limited' to a certain area and subject to agreed rules for example such as the war between India and Pakistan over the disputed Kashmir region.

This would mean that Syria and Israel could go to war over the 'disputed' Golan Heights, yet each party can continue to rule unlike recent wars which are soley about regime change.

The problem with this kind of war is that for a region so troubled already as in the Middle East then this limited war could become clouded very quickly and escalate in to full sacle war between the two countries.

www.acdis.uiuc.edu...

Well it seems that if Israel target Syria they will have to engage in the war.

Now will this be a provocation on the part of Syria to warrant an Israeli assault at all?

I wonder.

These two sides are playing a political game here too. Each is waiting for the other to strike the first blow. Neither side wishes to be portrayed as being the instigator/aggressor in this case because this war would, if left to spiral out of control would most likely engulf not only the region, but the world too.

Personally I believe we are in the most unstable / dangerous time since the Cuban Misslie Crisis and although getting played down to some extent at the moment, we are on the brink of war!

I wonder also if the entire purpose is to bring Syria into the conflict so Iran will follow after . . .

I got the nagging feeling that this is what the end result will be.

Originally posted by theallseeing
These two sides are playing a political game here too. Each is waiting for the other to strike the first blow. Neither side wishes to be portrayed as being the instigator/aggressor in this case because this war would, if left to spiral out of control would most likely engulf not only the region, but the world too.

Well honestly, do you think anyone would care or think about who started it when the world is thrown into turmoil? War at its largest would be the only case to deal with.

I begin to think that Syria may try to provoke israel in to making a pre-emptive strike. All they'd have to do is put their missile forces on alert, and move as many mobile units as they think prudent to a location near their border with Lebanon.

The other possibility seems to be that the Syrians would roll in north Lebanon in full fiew of everyone under the pretext of a security mission. the IDF certainly couldn't ignore that. Who know? Maybe the leadership in Lebanon might ask for that help from Syria?

If the Syrians are seen as responding to a call for help....

Nothing is gonna happen. Syria is scared and the only position they are getting into regarding Israel is bending over and getting ready to take it because thats what would happen if they were foolish enough to provoke Israel.

[edit on 3-8-2006 by princeofpeace]

Originally posted by Justin Oldham
Who know? Maybe the leadership in Lebanon might ask for that help from Syria?

Now that would be interesting to see...after all, the international community (including America) has been asking for Syria to take a more active roll in the peace process.

Trouble is, it is not exactly what the American administration and Israel had in mind now though is it?

Again this would be an interesting development. . .hypothetically of course!



(Mod edit: Fixed broken quote/italic overrun. --Majic)

[edit on 8/12/2006 by Majic]

Originally posted by theallseeing

Now that would be interesting to see...after all, the international community (including America) has been asking for Syria to take a more active roll in the peace process.

No really US and Israel has tagged Syria as a terrorist state and US and Israel has said over and over that they will never negotiate with Terrorist states.

Syria was asking to be involve in the peace talks and the international community wanted that, because they are the ones that could control Hezbollah . . .

But it seems that neither Israel or the US want hezbollah to be controlled.

I wonder. . .

Originally posted by princeofpeace
Nothing is gonna happen. Syria is scared and the only position they are getting into regarding is Israel is bending over and getting ready to take it because thats what would happen if they were foolish enough to provoke Israel.

Even though I completely agree they would get hammered. Their military may not be quite as advanced as Israels, however they are still a country that posesses WMD's (albeit in the form of chemical and biological technologies unlike Israels unofficial nukes!) and can therefore give Israel a good kicking too.

If either side attacked the other with missiles then they would have to assume, that in the current atmosphere those missiles flying towards their country were carrying WMD's and would then retaliate in kind.

Not I nice thought I know but anything is possible now!

Israel will probably stage a Syrian attack so they could have a (visible) excuse... or maybe they'll find an excuse some other way. Then the US could more easily back Israel in the war against Syria/Iran. But if Israel was the obvious aggressor, it would make the US look bad if they helped.

I kind of wonder if the US invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq were an end-goal to position themselves closer to Iran. Just look at the map.

I'm with you there. It seems pretty clear to me that Israel doesn't want Hezbollah to back down just yet. Neitehr does the U.S. want swift action from the United Nations. Is that even possible? "Swift" and "U.N." don't seem to belong together in the same sentence.

I think the last thing anyone would expect at this time would be Syrian involvement. If they started an air bridge in to Beirut to ferry supplies, that could be enough to provoke the Israelis in to at-least trying to shut down the air space. I can see it on Al Jazeera now. "We are trying to help, but the Isreali war planes keep threatening our transports."

Anyone know if Syria is still moving into position? Israel has been striking VERY close to the Syrian border today and still nothing. Do all these fanatical Musilm leaders just talk a bunch smack only to let the terrorists carry out their bidding because they are too scared?


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They had better negotiate a cease fire soon because Isreal is getting itself
in real trouble going as far as they have. Put it on Syria and Iran to stop
Hezbollah and if they don't at least you could get some support from
some other countries for going after them. But if they invade Isreal to get Isreal
to stop attacking Lebanon its going to be a disaster I think.

[edit on 4-8-2006 by u4itornot]

Some people in these boards has claim that Hezbollah group are cowards and that they hide behind the population . . .

The leader of Hezbollah has dared Israel to a ground conflict . . .

When you have fighter jets and state of the art weaponry thanks to your biggest supporter supplying to you . . .

You don't need to do anything but keep the arrogance and claim that the evil Axis of evil are the ones causing the death of the Innocent.

Then you dare to become angry when what you consider a group of terrorist get weapons from the only group that support them.

How about a nice ground war without US technology

The winner takes all be Israel or Hezbollah.

Hi marg,

your statement

marg
The leader of Hezbollah has dared Israel to a ground conflict . . .

When you have fighter jets and state of the art weaponry thanks to your biggest supporter supplying to you . . .

How about a nice ground war without US technology

The winner takes all

struck a cord with me, and reminded me of a recent interview with Lebanon-born Walid Phares.

First, consider what the Lebanese want. They are under tremendous pressures today, and they have multiple opinions about what has been happening to their country over the past decades. Last year the demonstrations revealed that a popular majority of Lebanese — mostly Sunnis, Druses, and Christians — opposed for a variety of reasons the Syrian occupation of their country and the arms of Hezbollah. The signs in support of UNSCR 1559 are clear evidence of what Lebanon’s majority — which massed 1.5 million people on the streets — wanted and still wants.

The masses in Lebanon responded courageously in March 2005 by putting 1.5 million people on the streets of Beirut. They did it without “no-fly-zones,” expeditionary forces, or any weapons at all, for that matter, and against the power of three regimes, Iran, Syria, and pro-Syrian Lebanon, in addition to Hezbollah terror.

They started demonstrating while they were under Syrian occupation and threatened by Hezbollah and other militias. Alone, without international support, with no military invasions and no funding, the youth, women, and elderly of Lebanon stood courageously, unarmed, with the world campaign against terrorism. Their determination was so powerful that Assad himself was shocked and vowed revenge. Hassan Nasrallah promised Assad he would double the marchers with his Iranian-dollars and lined up an army on the streets, just to be shocked again by the massive response by the people of Lebanon. The Cedar Revolution emptied every single village outside of Hezbollah’s control and gathered them in front of the world cameras to send the forceful message: No to Syria’s occupation and no to Hezbollah’s weapons and terror.

Just a thought.



[edit on 8/4/06 by makeitso]

Originally posted by marg6043
Some people in these boards has claim that Hezbollah group are cowards and that they hide behind the population . . .

The leader of Hezbollah has dared Israel to a ground conflict . . .

When you have fighter jets and state of the art weaponry thanks to your biggest supporter supplying to you . . .

You don't need to do anything but keep the arrogance and claim that the evil Axis of evil are the ones causing the death of the Innocent.

Then you dare to become angry when what you consider a group of terrorist get weapons from the only group that support them.

How about a nice ground war without US technology

The winner takes all be Israel or Hezbollah.

Agreed! No more hiding behind civilians, no more fancy airplanes, no more fancy advanced guns! We oughta go back to beating eachother with sticks and sharp metal things in the middle of open fields.