Illumanati: do they rule everything?

Heres an interesting idea i heard the other day with bits and peices of my own ideas.

Long time ago, probally 6000-7000 BC contact was made between aliens and men. Now origionally every one saw the aliens, but because they were viewed as gods only preists were aloud to speak with them. Contact was mayde by several native american tribes, the egyptians and the maya, later the aztecs and the Dogon in afirca. These aliens gave some technology, mostly beads and trinkets, because we didnt recognise them for what they were, in exchange for food water, shelter. They also began building pyrimids, which were designed to serve as alien temples. (Egyptian, Mayan , Aztec arctecture is very similar) The egyptains learned via aliens of North American and began trading, suported by the discovery of coca in a pharoahs tomb.

The preists, origionally from Egypt are the most trused by the Aliens. They head north as Egypt slowy falls aprart. While passing through Isreal they may have inspired much of what is now judism and Christanity, interfusing some of what aliens had told them with their own mythology, and maybe a few signs and wonders.

They are supost to keep people ignorant. They keep Grece bogged down in supersticion and old foolsih religions as democracy and reason began to fluish. By now they had began a generational deal, passing duties down to the next child.

In rome they killed emperors, destroyed armies, ect. They had taken the wealth of egypt with them when they left, using the Isreali people to trasport it. They were teh ones who got Pharoah to let the slaves go (read exodus), by having alien pals work miracles. Now in rome they staged there first master swoop. They buildt the empire high and mighty, they destroyed in so fast it plungded the world in to the dark ages. if the process was slower then institutions of learning and reason would have had more time to react and prepare. They controled the papacy, began creating bloodlines, very monacch was one of them.

They werent all powerful. They are just a secret cult with a ton of money. They still worshiped the aliens as gods, maybe they still do. Anyway, they see that they are running out of resurces (humans to serve as food). The black plauge was probally just a human virsu aliens were modifly that got out of control. They soon go to the new world, partly to kill the aztecs, whom they are jellous of. The Aleins get resources from the Americas, they just need the rest of the world ignorant.

Once in the new world they carefuly create a new counrty to rule the hemisphere. They place Freemasons, one of their organazatins all overthe government. They then suceed.

Fast foward to 20th centruy. They realize who the aliens are, and demand more. The aliens began trasfering technology shortly before WW2, to both Nazis, owned wholesale by the Illumaniti/Freemasons/Preists and Americans. All prersidenst seince Ike know of aliens and are in on the conspiray. In the 1960s their was a bit of a war, because JFK opposed. Thats why he was shot

ISNT THAT CRAZY? I BET I CAN MAKE IT MOPRE CRAZY

It is a bit crazy. A mix of ideas from Erich von Daniken, Zechariah Sitchin, and Willian Milton Cooper.

And after all this, Im not even convinced that the organization known as the Illuminati even exists anymore.

To really know if you are ruled by the illuminate is by looking at your credit card YES! this one of the symbol and assurance from the illuminate that they will in slave you in debt of money because to man money talks , Jesus forbid credit and so did Moses and Mohammad.

Illuminate has enslaved billions on earth the World Bank just tells you; many countries ask for credit and get enslaved to pay for centuries, and so corruption and poverty is created. Yes the illuminate is really there. SO SAY NO TO CREDIT BECAUSE DANCEING WITH THE DEVIL WILL LAST YOU FOR EVER!

Credit is the single worst thing that I think has happened to modern man. I mean really, how much are you in debt? Do you have one? Have you paid it off fully? I had one once, paid it off, never again.

They are evil, and have turned me into a person who is afraid of money simply because of how your treated. its a number. Your a number. You have no entity or self through money.

Heres a tip:

When you get your pay, which is straight into the bank now, no more pay slips so you actually have cash... isn't that strange!? Go and take it all out, hdie it under your pillow and pay eberything with cash.

Why leave footprints if you dont' want to be seen. Don't be a slave.

Credit is hardly an evil. Without credit, most of what we have today wouldn't exist. People need to be able to take out loans, or get capital through credit, in order to invest in technology, research, public infrastructure, etc.

Last time I checked, neither jesus nor mohammed were renowned for their market strategies. They're good for religion, but probably wouldn't make good investment strategists.

Originally posted by Nygdan
Credit is hardly an evil. Without credit, most of what we have today wouldn't exist. People need to be able to take out loans, or get capital through credit, in order to invest in technology, research, public infrastructure, etc.

Last time I checked, neither jesus nor mohammed were renowned for their market strategies. They're good for religion, but probably wouldn't make good investment strategists.

Thats true not to mention all the jobs the credit industry produces. A little less interest would be nice but still some people would never save up enough money to even get there first car.

Originally posted by Nygdan
Credit is hardly an evil. Without credit, most of what we have today wouldn't exist. People need to be able to take out loans, or get capital through credit, in order to invest in technology, research, public infrastructure, etc.

Last time I checked, neither jesus nor mohammed were renowned for their market strategies. They're good for religion, but probably wouldn't make good investment strategists.

I believe you have shifted to the direction of profit, interest all ways gives you profit, but why drink the blood of man, this profit comes of the expense of others, for instance lets say you lend $1000 to a person is in need of money this isn’t debt yet now you give condition of the money he has to pay interest 25% apr this is debt in this you achieve $1000 depending on the type of debt compound or normal. Ethics is inessential to our society, now ethics taught me that interest is wrong here, for example you went and saw an offer of a car that costs around $5000 but you don’t have that amount you go to alternatives and you have to the pay 25% apr interest. You’re happy you bought it, let’s say your employment pay is a $1500 you should theoretically able to pay it in 2 years but that won’t happen because you have to pay an extra 25% depending on interest type.

O,oo yeah about if we didn’t have interest we would still have the standard of living that is today, example: Saudi Arabia I have bin there you are going to be shocked it doesn’t have any interest in any loan, and loans in Saudi Arabia means loans, I have been there and staying at a friends house I have learned about the prospect and that the money given to you must be paid off and this fact no man in Saudi Arabia is poor every one has a house and the money to buy food and other materialist objects. If they can do it why cant the west, reason because money talks.

SO was the barter system not good enough?

Originally posted by Nygdan
Credit is hardly an evil. Without credit, most of what we have today wouldn't exist. People need to be able to take out loans, or get capital through credit, in order to invest in technology, research, public infrastructure, etc.

Who says it would not exist?
We probably be far more advanced by now, because people would not have wars or famine or stuff like: ow sorry your funding for the anti cancer project has been stoped, or some stupid thing like that.
you can actually distroy people by taking away there money and you know it.
So how can it not be evil?, without money the world would be a better place, i think, iwouldn't know though, cause we have money and nobody can know what would have happened when we wouldn't have, i can't and neither can your or anybody else.

If you have enough money, then why should you need credit! it is plain and simple greed.

If credit did not run the planet there would be alot mroe people in this world with alot mroe personal/spiritual/physical wealth than today.

How many people do you knwo in your circle of people that is NOT in credit!?

I can tell you now that the % rate would more likely to be less than 1

M@

Originally posted by Disaster_Boy
If you have enough money, then why should you need credit! it is plain and simple greed.

Actually, it's not that simple.

Some things in life are expensive... like say, a house. I have to live somewhere. If I do not own, then I have to rent. If I had to rent until I had saved enough for a house, then I would be too old to have a family. Borrowing money on my credit is the way to afford a house while I'm still young enough to fill it.

Same thing for my college loans... I would not have been able to afford good schooling, if I had not borrowed.

I'm happy for you, if you are wealthy enough to never need more money. Not everyone is so lucky.

How many people do you knwo in your circle of people that is NOT in credit!?

Probably 0%. Maybe because its a useful tool, with many practical applications.

Originally posted by Hobbes

Originally posted by Disaster_Boy
If you have enough money, then why should you need credit! it is plain and simple greed.

Actually, it's not that simple.

Some things in life are expensive... like say, a house. I have to live somewhere. If I do not own, then I have to rent. If I had to rent until I had saved enough for a house, then I would be too old to have a family. Borrowing money on my credit is the way to afford a house while I'm still young enough to fill it.

Same thing for my college loans... I would not have been able to afford good schooling, if I had not borrowed.

I'm happy for you, if you are wealthy enough to never need more money. Not everyone is so lucky.

How many people do you knwo in your circle of people that is NOT in credit!?

Probably 0%. Maybe because its a useful tool, with many practical applications.

Yeah but look at Saudi Arabia it does not allow credit on LOANS so how come every one there can do it you can by a house and NOT end up paying for the credit its the same around whole of middle eat except Israel, why do you think that the American are sending so many troops to the middle east, these troops are sent on the orders of the Zionist lobbyist in Washington, why was Iraq attacked it is because it said it does not want to use dollar but instead Euro similar to the Iran tensions.

Money talks really well like when we look at actor why would we look at him because he did a good role in a movie nowa day CG [computer graphics] does the action but why we like looking at our favourite actors and po stars is because mony talks.

And if I have to repeat it ill do it again Jesus, Moses and Mohammad forbid credit why is it in use he said it is a sin using it but because circumstance have changed banks want to make more money from money interest was introduced.
It was allowed by a priciest.

This is a question to all those who follow their respected religions who will you obey your god or illuminates god (Satan). This is not the only thing the illuminate has done to this world but again what was forbidden by Jesus, Mosses and Mohammad ADULTRY which is on every street every book store and cyber space of a western country. The only countries that have a law that does not allow this and also they’re religion forbids are Muslim countries.

I read this article apologies I have no link to it was long time ago. That pornography is a tool used by the illuminate to make you addicted to it’s a surgical instrument to cut marriage from sex. As it is happening all over around the world. Look at the America there are less marriages and more adultery again forbidden, I mean people who don’t marry but have children to gather with their girl friends. The illuminate is being trying to erase marriage forever. Again there is a special documentary by Alex Jones on some kind of device which will allow women to stop reproduction of children.

Is up to you to make a choice either to follow the good path of which is hard or the easy path which is evil. For me I am following the hard path of good.

The house of Rothchild & the house of Rockefellar, if the people in the West would just rise up and hunt these creeps down & all their Heirs & relatives, there would be no one to owe money to.
We just gotta get these families & knock some heads.

The Illuminati is but one of many arms which are controlling the world today.

Queen Elizabeth II is the head of the world conspiracy today. Rothschild, Rockefeller and other aristocrats are first level front men for the Committee. The Thurn and Taxis family makes Rothschild seem rather poor in relation and there are many such families more rich and powerful than the Rothschilds or the Illuminati - many of whom are in Italy.

Adam Weisphaut borrowed most of his ideas including words spoken from Bush "a thousand points of light" from Dante in the 13'th century. Dante was connected to the Black Nobility families known as the "Guelfs" and others and had formed a temporay aliance with the Roman Church to further their agenda. It is interesting that in modern times, historians tend to blame much of the crimes of these Venitians during the Crusades, onto the Catholic Church alone and not the Ventians. Further investigation reveals just how far back they were able to influence the most powerful empire. In the 12'th century they were so powerful that they (via expensive wars) forced the very noble John Commonus (the Catholic Emperior) to continue unfair trading privilages with with.



[edit on 5-8-2006 by Cinosamitna]