Odd dream - 'Carpe Deum', I know no latin!

Hi guys

Hope some of you can help me interpret this rather strange experience I had at roughly 3am this morning.

I am a 24 year old male IT Support Specialist currently living Nottingham, UK.

Before you read this, I am in no way religious, in fact I am a fairly strong non-believer (although part of me would like to believe in the idea). I also know no latin whatsoever.

Here goes. I was in a semi dream state in a room looking down on a young girl on a circular bed-type thing. The room was the kind you find in the back of a church, like a chapel. There were 2 women there too wearing uniforms similar to nuns, but I don't think that's what they were. One of them said something along the lines of, 'this will only work if she is one with god'. I then said in my head, 'a virgin, she must be a virgin' (as in virgin mary). The girl began convulsing and chanting 'carpe deum' over and over again. I then started to get a warm feeling all over me. At that point I remember saying in my head (actually, it could have been out loud), 'I feel close to you now' (as in god). The feeling at that moment became a lot more intense, my heart was rapidly beating and i was kind of hyperventilating, like how a woman is told to breathe when giving birth. I then became paralysed, like something was holding me down, or taking over my body. There was a voice playing in my head saying rather elaborate strings of words, none of which i understood, apart from 'carpe deum' over and over again. I was awake and very aware of what was happening. When I started to panic and shout out, nothing happened, so I began to panic more. Suddenly it stopped and i was able to move again.

I was left feeling very odd indeed, kind of tingly sensation, and very freaked out. 'carpe deum' was playing in my head, I didn't have a clue what it meant. I then picked up my phone and googled those words.

That's when I discovered the meaning. 'seize god', 'hold on to god'.

What does this mean? I wasn’t watching anything on TV even remotely related to any of this the night before either.


RemusUK

I thought carpe deum was "seize the day"? Most commonly known from the film "Dead Poets Society"? Could be wrong though.

Either way, maybe you've heard reference to this film, or someone else has said this phrase in conversation? I've had dreams before where a key point of the dream has been the slogan of an advert that i'd read in a magazine.

Many people use latin phrases in day to day conversation, maybe you've just picked up on this and it's stuck.

CX.

[edit on 23/7/06 by CX]

My husband has told me several times in recent years that I will wake him up talking in my sleep.
I'm speaking another language and I have asked him many times when I would hear a different language if that was what I was speaking in my dreams and he always says no.
I only speak English .
I hope someone can give you and I some insight into this.

Originally posted by CX
I thought carpe deum was "seize the day"? Most commonly known from the film "Dead Poets Society"? Could be wrong though.

Either way, maybe you've heard reference to this film, or someone else has said this phrase in conversation? I've had dreams before where a key point of the dream has been the slogan of an advert that i'd read in a magazine.

Many people use latin phrases in day to day conversation, maybe you've just picked up on this and it's stuck.

CX.

[edit on 23/7/06 by CX]

Carpe Diem (pronounced car-pay dee-em) is 'Sieze the day'. In my dream I heard Carpe Deum (pronounced car-pay dee-um), which means 'Seize God'.

Never seen Dead Poet's Society, and I don't mix with the type of people that would say such things as 'Carpe Diem' in casual conversation. If they had I would have remembered.

I also would have remembered what 'Carpe deum' means if I'd have been told, but I had no idea it related to god, the main subject of my dream.

EDIT: I should also point out I had no idea what either of these latin phrases meant before my dream.

[edit on 23-7-2006 by RemusUK]

[edit on 23-7-2006 by RemusUK]

Originally posted by RemusUKHope some of you can help me interpret this rather strange experience I had at roughly 3am this morning.

I am a 24 year old male IT Support Specialist currently living Nottingham, UK.

Before you read this, I am in no way religious, in fact I am a fairly strong non-believer (although part of me would like to believe in the idea). I also know no latin whatsoever.

Here goes. I was in a semi dream state in a room looking down on a young girl on a circular bed-type thing. The room was the kind you find in the back of a church, like a chapel. There were 2 women there too wearing uniforms similar to nuns, but I don't think that's what they were. One of them said something along the lines of, 'this will only work if she is one with god'. I then said in my head, 'a virgin, she must be a virgin' (as in virgin mary). The girl began convulsing and chanting 'carpe deum' over and over again. I then started to get a warm feeling all over me. At that point I remember saying in my head (actually, it could have been out loud), 'I feel close to you now' (as in god). The feeling at that moment became a lot more intense, my heart was rapidly beating and i was kind of hyperventilating, like how a woman is told to breathe when giving birth. I then became paralysed, like something was holding me down, or taking over my body. There was a voice playing in my head saying rather elaborate strings of words, none of which i understood, apart from 'carpe deum' over and over again. I was awake and very aware of what was happening. When I started to panic and shout out, nothing happened, so I began to panic more. Suddenly it stopped and i was able to move again.

I was left feeling very odd indeed, kind of tingly sensation, and very freaked out. 'carpe deum' was playing in my head, I didn't have a clue what it meant. I then picked up my phone and googled those words.

That's when I discovered the meaning. 'seize god', 'hold on to god'.

What does this mean? I wasn’t watching anything on TV even remotely related to any of this the night before either. RemusUK

(At the risk of entering a man's night dream world unadvisedly, hoping this is not some kind of "gotcha", and avoiding the obvious interpretation)

Carpe diem is "seize the day". Carpe deum would be "seize God" as you found out.

Since you say you are an unbeliever with some leanings towards a desire to believe, it would seem you are invited to "lay hold" of God.

As for the warm, tingly feeling, that perhaps had more to do with the physical than with God, but as a Christian myself, I would say the main thing is an open invitation to come to believe in God and since it was repeated urgently, there is most likely an urgent reason for why this message has come to you in this way.

How the trappings of the girl, the bed, the 2 women and so on fits in is vague; to me, it could very well be an attempt by the other spirit to confuse the message. (causing you to be unable to move, bringing on panic) Have you ever been or considered being a Catholic, for instance? (the nun-like uniforms) Or a satanist? (the convulsing girl, the placement of the bed-like thing in a place similar to a church)

Since you are divided on the desire to believe, the division among the symbols in the 'dream' seems to reflect your thinking. I would advise following the advice, especially in light of the urgency and repetition of the two words, and "laying hold" of God. If you don't own one, a good place to start would be to acquire a Bible and start reading it.

How did you decipher between dium and diem if you don't know latin?

I'm sure there is a piece of this dream that will unlock a certain understanding in the days to come. If you have the "will" to understand god, then god will have that same will to find you. You must remember that all of the answers you want are within, and the journey is through yourself. Good luck. AAC

did what she said sound like "dee-um" or "day-um"?

the latter is 'day', the former is 'God'; it's an easily confused pronunciation... but the phrase "Carpe diem" is quite popular, and was probably just something your subconscious picked up at some point, whereas "Carpe deum" is not something I've heard before... like, ever.

Originally posted by The Parallelogram
did what she said sound like "dee-um" or "day-um"?

the latter is 'day', the former is 'God'; it's an easily confused pronunciation... but the phrase "Carpe diem" is quite popular, and was probably just something your subconscious picked up at some point, whereas "Carpe deum" is not something I've heard before... like, ever.

From the information I've gathered so far 'Dee-Em' means 'Day' and 'Dee-um or Day-um (can be pronounced both ways according to answers.com) means 'God'.

Considering the main subject of my dream was god i am almost certain I heard 'Dee-um'.

[edit on 24-7-2006 by RemusUK]

RemusUK:

Welcome to the world of the twilight zone

It's a place between conciousness and sleep.

In this area, things are "slightly different" than normal. If a door is open, you may see it shut, if a bed is normal, you may see it round, you may see you as a girl (innocent, untarnished etc).

I image that it was you who saw you and that the two "nuns" were possibly guides (or whatever they call them).

I have had this happen to me so many times I cannot count.

The reason you tried to shout out - and nothing came out, or move - and you couldn't move - is that your spirit/soul or whatever wasn't "locked back in" to your body.

I also assume that you felt were being suffocated as well and couldn't breathe?

Cheers

JS

Originally posted by jumpspace
RemusUK:

Welcome to the world of the twilight zone

It's a place between conciousness and sleep.

In this area, things are "slightly different" than normal. If a door is open, you may see it shut, if a bed is normal, you may see it round, you may see you as a girl (innocent, untarnished etc).

I image that it was you who saw you and that the two "nuns" were possibly guides (or whatever they call them).

I have had this happen to me so many times I cannot count.

The reason you tried to shout out - and nothing came out, or move - and you couldn't move - is that your spirit/soul or whatever wasn't "locked back in" to your body.

I also assume that you felt were being suffocated as well and couldn't breathe?

Cheers

JS

Hi JS

I could breathe, I just couldn't move.

As for me seeing me as an innocent untarnished girl, that would be quite strange considering! But I'm willing to accept that it would be my complete opposite!

It sounds like some kind of message was given to you. Carpé Diem means Seize the Day... in this case, I think it meant, seize the day to find God.

I was a complete non-believer too, until about 9 months ago. Seriously, just pray and try to get closer to Him, he wants you to join Him, don't ignore His call.

I suffer an awful lot from paraylisis in sleep about once a month which even my doctor says little is known about the condition. Usually diring these incidents i can neither talk , move, or anything.

Also whilst in this state i become very aware of a very powerful spiritual force near me and many times receive what i believe to be messages either fom my inner soul or from a dormant sleepy part of my brain i dont know. What i do know is that i always take note of the message and follow it. A spiritual priest told me i was being guided and should not be afraid as it was for a purpose??????

Funnily enough last time this happened 6 weeks ago i was severly warned and shown the effects of playing with Oujia Boards. Before going to bed i had placed a bid on Ebay for such a board. I went straight downstairs and cancelled my bids.

This could be my mind playing tricks or something else i dont know but i tend to believe its a spiritual thing due to some of the experiences ive had whilst being in this state

thesaint:

Definitely DON'T play with a Ouija board!

You can open up some very very BAD doors.

Cheers

JS

I completely agree with, jumpspace. Ouija boards are not something I'd like to mess with.

I know guys thanks for the info.

I have played with them before when i was much younger so decided to try againn and it would seem i was severly warned not too

I know what you mean, I've had a lot of messages given to me via dreams. One of the strangest ones was the day before I found God... I spoke to Jesus, who arrived through clouds, I can't remember what he said to me now, but the next day, I became Christian. Maybe it was a coincidence, but I doubt it.

When I was in high school my latin teacher told us that the literal translation of carpe is not "seize" but "milk". So literally carpe diem means "milk the day". By which they meant "milk the day for all its worth" or "seize the day". Now, my latin dictionary does not give the "milk" translation of carpe, but my teacher was a really bright guy who knew his stuff so I tend to trust him. I'm bringing this translation into it because of the other things you said. You have nuns, you have a virgin and a latin phrase that translated literally means "Milk God". How do I phrase my conclusion so as not to seem vulgar? I think you got it...

Vas

hey, im not sure why the cause was but im sure it has something to do with your spirituality. i just had a similar dream /wake state experience last night. here is details..

well started with a normal dream.. i was in a hotel room looking for the elevator.. when suddenly there was some sort of concert going on and they blocked off all elevators. so i went backstage and asked if there is a way in that way.. they said yes soi past security gaurds even though they tried to stop me... and found a empty stairway which made me feel very uncomfortable and a bit spooked.. i kept walking up and up .. i just felt more and more vulnerable to fear.. then our of nowhere... BOOM i felt this surge of energy throughout my body... and i think i woke up ... then i went into a trance like dream... i felt tingly all over.. there were pictures of objects in a row from left to right... and going through each one was like ... when u go sing along karaoke lines it highlights left to right... well that was happening with the pictures and instead of song lyrics it was phrases within each object... very WEIRD phrases like political almost.. the only one that i can remember fully was this.. there was a statue like stand and a hovering orb or ball on top... the stand said"i have found" and the orb/ball said"Jesus"... and it just kept going on and on... i started to feel very uncomfortable and felt a presence... so i wanted to snap out of it... i snapped out of it and then i was laying on my bed feeling tingly still and saw this shadowy figure on top of me... im not sure what it was doing but i felt it was once in me... i was hard to move... like i wanted to move but something was blocking my motor skills mentally.. but i kept fighting it, and ended up crawling out of bed to the ground... after that i blacked out and "woke up again" in my bed... the WEIRDEST EXPERIENCE IVE EVER HAD...

i have also believe i have felt a ghost go through me before at a friends garage... we were standing around a car we just bought for a friend and i only drank HALF of my 1st beer.. i was standing between the back door and car... when suddenly i heard and felt this buzzing kind of vibration like "bbbbrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmm" it went throught my left body... it was totally full of hate and anger... i felt danger and scared... i was frozen... the sound was loudest when it went through my head.. and all the hairs on my left side of body shot up... i had hair all over my FACE!!! i never thought existed.. and the back of my neck, my ears, arms , EVERYTHING!! i had to brush it down cuz it felt so uncomfortable... but yea other than that nothing else... please give me some thoughts and input... sorry for taking your thread but it was so similar that i had to post it here...

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