Poor misunderstood Aleister Crowley

No but semen is a very powerful thing when used in magick. As is your own sweat, blood, urine and menstruation blood (yes i know but it is). So then it is perfectly within reason that the man could have been talking about sperm.

[edit on 24/8/06 by Tebbo]

Originally posted by Tebbo
No but semen is a very powerful thing when used in magick. As is your own sweat, blood, urine and menstruation blood (yes i know but it is). So then it is perfectly within reason that the man could have been talking about sperm.

Certain strains of Gnosticism, especially Crowley's system, are based on the magical properties of sexual fluids. When the semen is mixed with vaginal fluids, the Thelemites refer to the substance as the "Elixir of Life", "the Universal Medicine", and "the Philosophers Stone".

It is the Elixir of Life because, obviously, the mixture contains the magical properties necessary to perpetuate life. The whole thing is covered in abstract alchemical symbolism, but suffice it to say that since the Elixir produces life, it is considered by the Spermo-Gnostics to be the most magical substance in existence.

In Crowley's system, which is sex-magical, the Elixir is used for various purposes, and in various ways. Each time it is used, a "sacrifice" is performed because the ability to create a child with the Elixir is sacrificed by using the Elixir for other purposes. See the secret IX° papers in Francis King's "The Secret Rituals of the O.T.O." for further elaboration, especially Crowley's essay "On The Wine of the Sabbath of the Adepts".

I agree Masonic Light.

I have never used any body fluids in my castings yet, but i am considering it. Even in the most mundane castings the use of certain fluids will boost the power of that said casting beyond what it normally would be.

Originally posted by Tebbo
I agree Masonic Light.

I have never used any body fluids in my castings yet, but i am considering it. Even in the most mundane castings the use of certain fluids will boost the power of that said casting beyond what it normally would be.

Possibly, but like you, I've never experimented with Crowley's sex magic techniques. My interest in them is more academic than as a method of practice.

Well someone said... that he was talking about the Semen of a Child.

Yet another foolish statement. Good thing Masonic Light was here to clear things up. Are you forgetting to factor in the Occult side of the Equation? Do you think that Aleister Crowley was just some Homicidal Maniac? You you not see the Subtlety in his writing? This stuff has to do with Magick Ritual, Christo-Paganism, Hermeticism, Gnosticism - you know Witchcraft & all. Do you think that they would just let anyone Joe Schmoe into their Coven? Do you think that they would let Children into the Order of Oriental Templars? You have to be at least 18 to join - show that you already have some Degree of Adeptship - or at least some Esoteric/Occult Knowledge & then you have to undergo Initiation!

Jeez you people are gullible! I guess people will believe what they want to believe in the end - regardless of the facts.

[edit on 25-8-2006 by Seraphim_Serpente]

Originally posted by Edelweiss Pirate


What I represent is the freedom to not have our children sexually abused.. which time and time again seems to be a theme with Masons and secret societies..Funny that eh?

[edit on 17-7-2006 by Edelweiss Pirate]

So, that must mean Catholics are child rapers too? I mean, they've proved that some have. Churches and other orgs demonized him and lied about him to make him appear horrible. They never proved he did.

They didnt use human sacrifices.

Dont try to use propaganda to "verify" a position.

Originally posted by andrew ky
"It would be unwise to condemn as irrational the practice of devouring the heart and liver of an adversary while yet warm. For the highest spiritual working one must choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force; a male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory."

Aleister Crowley, someone you will see some attempt to explain as misunderstood, and in truth a liberator.
"All children shall be accustomed from infancy to witness every type of sexual act......lest they be misdirected." Charming.

Magick in Theory and Practice

CHAPTER XII

OF THE BLOODY SACRIFICE: AND MATTERS COGNATE.


"It is necessary for us to consider carefully the problems connected with the
bloody sacrifice, for this question is indeed traditionally important in Magic
k. Nigh all ancient Magick revolves around this matter. In particular all the
Osirian religions --- the rites of the Dying God --- refer to this. The slaying
of Osiris and Adonis; the mutilation of Attis; the cults of Mexico and Peru;
the story of Hercules or Melcarth; the legends of Dionysus and of Mithra, are
all connected with this one idea. In the Hebrew religion we find the same thin
g inculcated. The first ethical lesson in the Bible is that the only sacrifice
pleasing to the Lord is the sacrifice of blood; Abel, who made this, finding
favour with the Lord, while Cain, who offered cabbages, was rather naturally
considered a cheap sport. The idea recurs again and again. We have the sacrifice
of the Passover, following on the story of Abraham's being commanded to sacrifice
his firstborn son, with the idea of the substitution of animal for human life.
The annual ceremony of the two goats carries out this in perpetuity. And
we see again the domination of this idea in the romance of Esther, where Haman
and Mordecai are the two goats or gods; and ultimately in the presentation of
the rite of Purim in Palestine, where Jesus and Barabbas happened to be the Goat
s in that particular year of which we hear so much, without agreement on the date.

This subject must be studied in the "Golden Bough", where it is most learnedly
set forth by Dr. J. G. Frazer.
Enough has now been said to show that the bloody sacrifice has from time
immemorial been the most considered part of Magick. The ethics of the thing
appear to have concerned no one; nor, to tell the truth, need they do so. As
St. Paul says, "Without shedding of blood there is no remission"; and who are we
to argue with St. Paul? But, after all that, it is open to any one to have an
y opinion that he likes upon the subject, or any other subject, thank God! At
the same time, it is most necessary to study the business, whatever we may be
going to do about it; for our ethics themselves will naturally depend upon our
theory of the universe. If we were quite certain, for example, that everybody
went to heaven when he died, there could be no serious objection to murder or
suicide, as it is generally conceded --- by those who know neither --- that earth
is not such a pleasant place as heaven..................

......You are also likely to get into trouble over this chapter unless you truly
comprehend its meaning."

On Thelemic Revolution.

Lucifer


The Biblical deity, the Islamic Deity and some of the Vedic deities demand blood sacrifice; and the Biblical, Islamic and Vedic texts are the central texts of the three major religions of the modern world.

Further all three texts depict genocidal wars gods.

(Numbers 31:7-18)

After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho. ... Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

More Biblical genocide on: www.evilbible.com...




Much of the criticim of Crowley's writings comes from the Biblical fanatics whose primitive Bronze Age war god demands the genocide of all the devotees of competing deiites, and further consider that imposng Biblical Law would have genocidal consequences, far beyond the consequences even of the Nazi genocides, if such a prmitive legal system were ever imposed.

Even if one ignores the 613 Laws of Moses, and considers only the 10 commandments, 8 out 10 of these commandments are executionable offences, and one of them is a genocidal offence, for the victimless crime of worshipping other gods.

Bear in mind also that traditional Christian theologians consider the Bible to be the word of their infallible, unchanging, omniscient god.



The Christan Prophecies.

Further bear in mind that the Christian prophecies predict the coming of a genocidal global dictator (the "King of Kings / the Second Coming of Christ") who is described as a theocratic (god-government) monarch who will defeat the armies of the governments of the world, and carry out the genocide of all non believers. In just one of the many military campaigns described in the Book of Revelations, a third of global population are killed; in the modern world this would be over 2 billion people.

Since many of the governments of the modern world are no longer monarchies, but elected republics, this theocratic dictatorship of "Chist (a "King" essentially)" would be a regression to tyranny and should concern all Republicans in the US where Christianity is the central religion; and Republicans throughout the world.

Most Communists and Socialists are also Republicans and by "Republicans" I do not refer to the Far Right US Republican party, but to the political system of Republicanism which has replaced many monarchies / tyrannies in our modern world. The US Democratic and Republican parties both contain proponents of the political idealogy of Republicanism and both parites have membership and supporters who are Christians and who are thus by default theocratic monarchists whose religion demands a religious dictator.


(Above: Sun Myung Moon. The religious schizophrenic and Korean version of the Second Coming of Christ: the multi-billionaire arm's manufacturer who predicts Armageddon and that his cult will take over the world)

I should also make it clear that there are a number of militant Messianic apocalyptic religious cults. There will be no miraculous appearance of some 2000 year old dead religious fanatic, called Jesus and no modern, scientific, educated person should consider such primitive myths. It is a matter of who will attempt to "invoke (personify)" such prophecies, and in a post apocalyptic age almost any wealthy Messianic cult in the multi-billion dollar religion business could seek to duplicate such prophecies.

The Islamic Prophecies

Futher the Islamic prophecies of the Imam Madhi are rather similar. Mohammad was similarly a dictator who imposed his allegedly "Final" theocratic Law, and the Madhi comes to allegedly defeat all opponents of Islam in a global apocalyptic war.



The Thelemic Prophecies (i.e., Crowley's prophecies)

Since the Biblical deity and the Islamic deity are genocidal deites and their followers have a centuries' long history of religious war, gencoide, tyranny and slavery it must be clearly understood that these are militant faiths with a long history of militancy

There is simply no evidence whatsoever that Crowley ever performed human blood sacrifice; never the less Thelemic war and revolution is predicted and will be necessary, and this will require the sacrifice of human lives; this would be a war for the liberation of humankind from the religions of the past Aeons and for universal human freedom "from" the religious laws of the ancient world, all of which represent the slave morality of the "sins of restriction."

The term Thelemite should be considered to refer to any person who opposes the laws of the religions of the ancient world and would include the vast array of Anarchists, Socialists, Communists, Republicans, feminists, atheists, humanists, and the various proponents of human freedom.

All three prophecies cannot come to pass. There can be only One which can can prevail

The choice is between theocratic monachies and the savage slavery laws of the ancient world and of universal human freedom. Either way; rivers of blood shall flow. One cannot make peace with the militant proponents of theocratic tyranny


Lucifer
Blasphemy, Heresy, War, Revolution, etc.
No Mercy on they who deserve none.

Trample down the Heathen; be upon them, o warrior, I will give you of their flesh to eat!
....
Them that seek to entrap thee, to overthrow thee, them attack without pity or quarter; & destroy them utterly
....
I am in a secret fourfold word, the blasphemy against all gods of men.

Curse them! Curse them! Curse them!

With my Hawk's head I peck at the eyes of Jesus as he hangs upon the cross.

I flap my wings in the face of Mohammed & blind him.

With my claws I tear out the flesh of the Indian and the Buddhist, Mongol and Din.

Bahlasti! Ompehda! I spit on your crapulous creeds.

Let Mary inviolate be torn upon wheels: for her sake let all chaste women be utterly despised among you! "

A.C.
Book of the Law

A person who is a pedophile, murderer, rapist, and satanist, is not going to admit that he is, nor are the circles he runs around in. Crowley was definitely a pedophile and murderer who had protection from very high ranking people in the UK. He had a place called the Abbey of Thelema in Sicily, Italy which was used for ritual human sacrifice and sex rituals against children (pedophilia). He was kicked out of Italy by Mussolini because it was brought to the public that he had murdered someone during a ritual. Of course people who abide by Satanism and condone pedophilia will ignore or deny what this man has done to children. He is the grandfather of the child sex rings throughout the UK, the hundreds if not thousands of victims of pedophilia and satanic child sex abuse and murder by the very high political elite and others.