Hezbollah UAV Severely Damages Israeli Warship

This amazes me, why would a country try to spark WW3, This has to be the dumbest move Iran has made yet, assuming that they provided him with the missles, or the UAV whichever it was... Regardless, with North Korea testing its Nukes, and tensions rising with Japan and the U.S. aswell as feuds between the Aliance formed with NK and China, now Iran is making haste to start trouble with Isreal and Iran already having Resolutions proposing sanctions against them at the U.N. same with NK, and yet they start trouble with Isreal, so of course Big Brother, actually maybe momma to Isreal has to jump in (The Big USA) to save the day... Here we go guys put on your seatbelts strap in and get ready for the ride of your life, becuase WW3's gonna produce more man made earthquakes then natural ones have occured in the past million years....

OK here is more info - the missile used was a C-802 missile supplied by Iran.
Hezbullah is the serrogate bastard child of Iran. There are Iranian soldiers and advisors in Lebanon assisting Hezbullah. This is a war with Iran as well.

I am sure Israel will find the right time to deal with Iran. For the moment Hezbullah needs to be decimated.

Originally posted by JudahMaccabbi
I am sure Israel will find the right time to deal with Iran. For the moment Hezbullah needs to be decimated.

Perhaps Israel should start targeting Hezbollah then, instead of innocent Civilians. All reports I've heard have the Hezbollah Militant death toll at about 2, and Civilian deaths at almost 100. Pathetic. Israel are actually losing this War, at the moment.

According to Israeli intelligence, 100 Iranian Revoluntonary Guards are in Lebanon. As Skynews are reporting, everytime something goes wrong in that area, Israel always tend to point to Iran or Syria. Its hard to prove though, in the past Iran did have troops in the area.

But who knows, Iran does give Hizbollah millions of dollars in support.

[edit on 15-7-2006 by infinite]

Originally posted by Communication_Burger

Originally posted by JudahMaccabbi
I am sure Israel will find the right time to deal with Iran. For the moment Hezbullah needs to be decimated.

Perhaps Israel should start targeting Hezbollah then, instead of innocent Civilians. All reports I've heard have the Hezbollah Militant death toll at about 2, and Civilian deaths at almost 100. Pathetic. Israel are actually losing this War, at the moment.

1- Do you honestly believe that Hezbullah can report to the Lebanese people that their militia is being decimated? Do you believe that they would report how many Hizbullah fighters were killed?

2- Israel plans are 2 fold:
a- To close off Lebanon from the rest of the world so that the kidnapped soldiers would not be airlifted to Iran.

b- Decimate Hizbullah infrastructure including their ammunition dumps, weapon stores and restrict their movement. From my understanding Israel succeeded quiet well in this.

The following added value of these operations are that:
1- Hopefully the lebanese people will say to themselves 'what did we need this trouble for? what did we stand to gain?' - Hezbullah's action was done to serve the interests of Syria and Iran NOT Lebanon.
2- A deterent will now be established with Hizbullah (should they survive this campaign).
3- The Lebanese army will take control of its borders as expected from all countries.

Israel has never had a policy of targetting civilians like the Arabs do. Remember that Hizbullah is attacking residential areas in Israel exclusively!

The IDF has confirmed that it was a missile that hit the ship, not an unmanned drone as was originally reported. Also the body of 1 of the 4 missing sailors has been found.

Originally posted by JudahMaccabbi
Israel has never had a policy of targetting civilians like the Arabs do.

So why are they targeting Civilians now then? Bombing Villages and Suburbs with Warplanes is just as bad as any Terrorist action. 'But... but... They did it first!' Grow up Israel, please.

In response to your reply about the Hezbollah death toll, it wasn't Hezbollah reporting the numbers, it was the Lebanese Police, and SKY Journalists in Lebanon. Do you think every time a Militant is killed, the only people who know about it are Hezbollah?

Originally posted by Communication_Burger
In response to your reply about the Hezbollah death toll, it wasn't Hezbollah reporting the numbers, it was the Lebanese Police, and SKY Journalists in Lebanon. Do you think every time a Militant is killed, the only people who know about it are Hezbollah?

In Lebanon, where there is an independent militia who does as it pleases, has its own neighborhoods, army, TV and radio Hezbullah can suppress any information it pleases. Hezbullahs organization is that of a nation in a nation who serves the purposes of the shiites, Iran and Syria. Therefore if a Hezbullah base was bombed only Hezbullah will know how many died.

I found this link describing drone use by Hisbollah, it would indeed be an interesting developement if true. I find no mention of the nature of the guidance system, possibly TV guided? via radio link to a ground station. If this is the case, I suspect the IDF has suitable capabilites for jamming in future. They were probably caught totally by surprise by this event but I cant see it working twice. It does indeed sound way above the abilities of Hesbollah, adding to suspicions that Iranian `advisors` might be lending a helping hand.

www.armscontrol.ru...

Originally posted by Communication_Burger
So why are they targeting Civilians now then?

Wrong. They aren't. Hezbollah hides behind civilians. If any civilians get
caught in crossfire it's the fault of the Hezbollah cowards. Israel has a right
and a duty to defend itself.

The bomb was from Iran. TV news is reporting that Iran admits to having
over 100 soldiers helping Hezbollah fight Israel. It also admits that their
bomb was deployed by Iranians. This is TV news. I have no link to that.

As far as you people claiming that FOX and CNN aren't reporting it...
you too are wrong. They are definately reporting it. They are reporting that
Israel claims that there wasn't serious damage and they are also reporting
the opposite fact that the ship had to be towed 1/2 way back before it could
regain power enough to get itself back to harbor.

Looks like the supplier road leads all the way back to Beijing and Paris. Kim Jong's missile marketing display on the 4th of July seems even more relevant now.




C-802|YJ-2|Ying Ji-802|CSS-C-8|SACCADE|C-8xx|YJ-22

France sending in the troops to Lebanon, so are they shipping in missile parts while they are at it?





[edit on 15-7-2006 by Regenmacher]

Originally posted by Communication_Burger
Israel are actually losing this War, at the moment.

There wouldn't be any war if Hezbollah and Iran would stop trying to destroy
Israel and if they would leave the Israelies alone in their tiny spit of land.
There are DOZENS of Islamic nations. There is one small Jewish nation.
It has a right to exist and be left alone.

The conflict that is going on now is the fault of Hezbollah. All the death;
all the pain; all the destruction; all the terror; all the scared and hungry
children; and all the worried people around the planet ... it's totally and
completely Hezbollah's fault. They deserve to be squashed like the bugs
that they are.

Somehow, this reminds me on attack on USS Liberty during six day war


Wikipedia

This might be casus beli for war against Iran.

Originally posted by JudahMaccabbi
In Lebanon, where there is an independent militia who does as it pleases, has its own neighborhoods, army, TV and radio Hezbullah can suppress any information it pleases. Hezbullahs organization is that of a nation in a nation who serves the purposes of the shiites, Iran and Syria. Therefore if a Hezbullah base was bombed only Hezbullah will know how many died.

Are all the foreign Journalists in Lebanon under Hezbollah control? Are they conspiring with them to supress news of Militant deaths? I don't think so. Israel would be championing the deaths all over the media if they had managed to kill many Militants. Obviously more than 2 have been killed, but the number will be low.

Only 4 Israeli Civilians have been killed in the Hezbollah rocket attacks, why have Israel killed so many Lebanese Civilians? Over 80 innocent Men, Women, and Children have been murdered by Israel in the last few days. Israel is either stupid, or just plain evil.

Originally posted by Regenmacher
Looks like the supplier road leads all the way back to Beijing and Paris.

So it's Iran, China and France who are assisting the Hezbollah to try to
destroy Israel? Why am I not surprised? What a bunch. The world
should send a 'reconstruction bill' to those countries so that they can repair
all the damage and pay families some compensation.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Wrong. They aren't. Hezbollah hides behind civilians. If any civilians get
caught in crossfire it's the fault of the Hezbollah cowards. Israel has a right
and a duty to defend itself.

Don't talk Rubbish.

www.irishexaminer.com...

At least 12 Lebanese villagers, including women and children, were killed today in what appeared to be an Israeli airstrike on a convoy of vehicles fleeing a village near the border with Israel in southern Lebanon, a witness said.

The Lebanese convoy was leaving the border village of Marwaheen, when it was attacked. An Associated Press photographer said he counted 12 bodies in two cars that were destroyed by the attack shortly after midday (10am Irish time).

Several hours earlier, Israeli forces across the border told villagers by loudspeaker to leave the area or else the village would be destroyed. They did not give a reason for the ultimatum.

The convoy of several vehicles was hit near the border fence about 1km from the village.

Who's wrong now?

Originally posted by Communication_Burger
Only 4 Israeli Civilians have been killed in the Hezbollah rocket attacks,

You miss the point. There would be NO civilians dead and NO war right now
if Hezbollah hadn't started aggressions. If there are dead civilians in Lebanon
it's because Hezbollah hides behind them. Hezbollah knew that civilians would
die but they didn't care and they attacked Israel anyways.

Israel is either stupid, or just plain evil.

Hezbollah is either stupid, or just plain evil.
Israel has a right to defend itself.

If you hit a bee's nest with a stick you will get stung. Instead of leaving
the bee's nest alone, Hezbollah whacked it with a stick. The bee's all came
out stinging anyone and anything in the area. It's not the bee's fault.
It's the fault of the idiot with a stick - Hezbollah.

Originally posted by Communication_Burger
Who's wrong now?

You are.

Again (TRY to let this sink in) - Hezbollah caused this. Those people wouldn't be
dead if Hezbollah had left Israel in peace. Hezbollah hides behind civilians. If
Israel hit a site that had civilians it is because Hezbollah was operating there.
Israel doesn't go out of it's way to hit civilians. That's a Hezbollah tactic.

You are displaying 'projection'.... taking a negative quality away from
your favored subject (Hezbollah) and applying it to the innocent party to make
them look like they have the problem instead of the one who actually does.

well...some breaking news

the Lebanese and Syrian border crossing has just been bombed.

Is the Syrian army still on stand-by? and are they mounted on that border???

The sad thing here is that Lebanon just shook off the yoke of Syria. Now
with Hezbollah attacking Israel, Syria will come rolling back into Lebanon
and claim it's for Lebanon's 'protection'. Hezbollah is enabling Syria and
Iran to run Lebanon and the poor people of Lebanon will be robbed of their
freedom once again.