Lebanon Retaliates

The escalation in violence came as Israel expanded its military campaign against Hezbollah guerrillas who kidnapped two Israeli soldiers on Wednesday -- bombing the airport and blocking naval traffic in Lebanese waters

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It just keeps on getting worse. God help those innocent over there....

Which innocents are you talking about.

your title is misleading.
So far Hezbollah guerillas have been fighting the Israeli's, not the Lebanese army, as yet.

Unless im missing what you see??

Originally posted by steve99
Which innocents are you talking about.

Um, all of them.... innocents are innocents...

Originally posted by Denied
your title is misleading.
So far Hezbollah guerillas have been fighting the Israeli's, not the Lebanese army, as yet.

Unless im missing what you see??

If Hezbollah guerillas are retaliating, and Hezbollah are the main "decidors" of the Lebanese government, then wouldn't that therefore be a retaliation by Lebanon?

I understand that the military of Lebanon is a separate faction from the Hezbollah guerillas, but still, it is one side fighting another.

Israel has dropped leaflets warning residents of one city that they will begin bombing that city and Lebanon has said that, should Israel launch that offensive, they will retaliate by bombing an Israeli city.


The US is telling Israel to tread cautiously here as the Lebanese gov't is not entirely at fault here. The US gov't is also saying that Syria and Iran are the primary backers of Hammas and Hezbollah. Let me repeat. Syria and Iran. I'd say the stage is being set for someone to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities.

you say that Lebanon can strike back at israel, do they have the means. can someone give us an idea of what Lebanon have in terms of military.

Well as someone else said on another thread, would you rather wait for a nuclear Iran, or do it now?

Originally posted by andy1033
you say that Lebanon can strike back at israel, do they have the means.

no, I said they have warned that they will strike back.

they have a military that, as mentioned above, is not controlled by the two terror organizations being fought.

Israel Says Hezbollah Trying to Send Kidnapped Soldiers to Iran

www.foxnews.com...

If that happens,

Hezbollah is not the Lebanonese Military.

They are a military wing of an organization, and a militia that has been mandated by the UN to disband. And the Lebanese Government and military is to disband all militas in the South of Lebanon, to ensure a calm environment in the area.

Hezbollah military wing is an illegal military in a soverign nation. That the UN has mandated to disband.

Originally posted by andy1033
you say that Lebanon can strike back at israel, do they have the means. can someone give us an idea of what Lebanon have in terms of military.

They have around 12,000 rockets/missiles that can hit Israel.

They also have wire guided tandem warhead anti-tank missiles which have been transfered from Iran.

They have Improved advanced anti-armour mines capable of damaging/destorying the latest armoured vehicles.

And have normal stuff like bullet proof vests,helmets, night vision equipmen, sniper rifles etc... They are very well armed.

This is obvious from when Israel tried a small land invasion into south lebanon yesterday hezbollah destoryed 2 Israel armoured vehicles, killed mutiple Israeli soldiers and wounded many other Israeli soldiers forcing a retreat by Israeli land forces yesterday now the Israelis are only concentrating on air attacks and artillery attacks.

Ok, looks like the Lebanese army will get involved, or not, what do you think, by tomorrow i reckon so.

So can they put up a good fight?
I gotta say the way Israel handled this was terrible, and disgusting.
Or maybe its just a conspiracy hiding behind main stream news, with ulterior motives?

[edit on 13-7-2006 by Denied]

Originally posted by Denied
Ok, looks like the Lebanese army will get involved, or not, what do you think, by tomorrow i reckon so.

So can they put up a good fight?
I gotta say the way Israel handled this was terrible, and disgusting.
Or maybe its just a conspiracy hiding behind main stream news, with ulterior motives?

[edit on 13-7-2006 by Denied]

The Labanese military is alot weaker than Hezbollah. Hezbollah on the other hand can take on Israel in a fight and give them a rather bloody nose. Although no match when you factor in IDF air power, Hezbollah are definately not to sniffed at.

The Lebanese military is alot weaker than Hezbollah. Hezbollah on the other hand can take on Israel in a fight and give them a rather bloody nose.

What about together?
With covert support from Syria and Iran.

Originally posted by Denied

The Lebanese military is alot weaker than Hezbollah. Hezbollah on the other hand can take on Israel in a fight and give them a rather bloody nose.

What about together?
With covert support from Syria and Iran.

I would expect that they are already getting tacit support from the Syrians and Iranians. The addition of Lebanese military would not be of great significance, but would add armoured vehicles and some air assets to the inventory. These, however, would quickly be destroyed by IDF airpower and don't fit into the Geurilla style of Hezbollah very well.

What might well happen, especially if the prisoners are transferred to Iran or the situaion otherwise escalates further, is overt support to Lebanon provided by Iran/Syria and a widening of the conflict. Then it becomes unpredicatable.

My opinion, anyway....

Your probably right, but i cant help thinking something big is going to go off in Israel.
Terrorist style.

i can assure you that the official lebanese army cannot and will not get into this
the lebanese have found a strtegy since i don't recall when ; the army do not conflicts with israeli attacks because they are an official army. so they let resistance groups take action . these groups started with commiunists, and left parties since the first invasion of israel to lebanon but since 1990 and the taef treaty (that was declared as the solution for the end of the lebanese civil war ) the hezbollah took for himself the responsability of defending lebanon.

i think the goal of all this is to raise the voices of the lebanese parties that reclaim the disarmification of hezbollah since the murder of the former prime minister Rafik
hariri and the syrian withdraw from lebanon.

note: israel allready destroyed ALL the bridges in the south of lebanon, disabled all the lebanese airport, and forbidden ships to come and go to the beirut's port. lebanon is real surrendered , people are running after fuel and alimentation to make reserves.
the only escape is throught syria that have no good relations with the lebanese governement

Originally posted by Mouth

If Hezbollah guerillas are retaliating, and Hezbollah are the main "decidors" of the Lebanese government, then wouldn't that therefore be a retaliation by Lebanon?

I understand that the military of Lebanon is a separate faction from the Hezbollah guerillas, but still, it is one side fighting another.

Hezbollah hold about 24 seats in a 124 (or was it 128 seat) Lebanese Parliament which is also by law to include 50% Christian representation. They are not the deciding factor in Lebanese policy. They were there representing the 40% population of the Shiite Muslims in the country. They were left armed to serve as a buffer between Israel and Lebanon to keep israeli forces from crossing over the border.

Pie

Originally posted by Denied

Israel Says Hezbollah Trying to Send Kidnapped Soldiers to Iran

www.foxnews.com...

If that happens,

I saw this on the news today and thought, WHY? What? Better jails do they have in Iran? Better interigation techniques?

Then I thought about it. Iran is the "great Satan" as far as the US media is concerned today. Damn, bring them into this, hell, we'll sell more papers, everyone KNOWS that Iran is "the Beast".

Propaganda pure and simple imo.

If nothing else it'll give the populous another reason to not question a US incursion into Iran.