Iranian President = Antichrist => WW3

These are turbulent times & I thought this would be a fitting time to post this.

I know alot of members take Nostradamus with a pinch of salt as many of his predictions have been incorrect and it is easier to make sense of his predictions in hine-sight but there are some very relavent links to our current world situation.

There are tensions and conflict all over the world at the moment and it may all be steps towards WW3, The Rapture and then finally order out of chaos.

This is the introduction:

"There is a quatrain of Nostradamus that clearly points to three conflicts occurring in the areas of Arabia/Kuwait, of Eastern Turkey and of Iran. The first one already came to pass in 1991 in what came be to known as Desert Storm. The second one is the present war in Iraq, And the third one is in the horizon, this time, Iran will be involved."

"On the fields of Iran (Media), of Arabia, and of Eastern Turkey (Armenia); two great armies will assemble three times. Near the river Araks (located in Eastern Turkey), the host of the great Suleyman (the Turks) will be cut off."

"By firepower of armies, not far from the Black Sea, He will come from Iran to occupy Trebizond (a strategic city in Eastern Turkey on the shores of the Black Sea)."

"Very soon the anti-christ (from Iran?) will destroy three . His war will last for twenty seven bloody years. The dissenters are put to death, taken prisoners and are exiled. Blood, human corpses, water reddened, earth ravaged by hail."

www.rumormillnews.com...

Heres another site (But be warned, there is cheesy music - press stop on browser)

judicial-inc.biz...

Alot of sites really seem to point towards WW3 starting with Iran and the East.

Russia, China, USA & the UN are considering placing sanctions on Iran.

www.nytimes.com...

This site has a breakdown of events to come.

www.members.optusnet.com.au...

Every year we think we are on the brink of WW3 but what if we really are this time? There are so many explosive situations at the moment which could spark many fires which could easily spread and involve other countries.

I know there will be nay-sayers who will state I'm just another paranoid ATS member and they may be right.

But, if Im right then that would mean its time to stand on corners with a "The End is Nigh!! - Repent!!" cardboard sign quoting scripture so I do hope Im wrong.

If you have any thoughts or opinions please dont be shy.

What if every war was meant to happen? And everything has been pushed along by the NWO. Making Bush start the ball rolling with the World Trade Centre "Bombings" and the pursuit of the War On Terror. - Order Out Of Chaos

In order for a prophet to be a prophet, they need to be correct 100% of the time. Notradamus isn't. His quatrains can only be deciphered AFTER the even happened, thereby trying to lend credibility to his ability to see into the future. A prophet speaks clearly of events that WILL unfold within a certain time frame.

Anyone who declares themselves a prophet and is wrong, even once, is a fraud.

Who knows who the anti-christ will be. But, during these times, it seems that that title could be given to most anyone. Heck, even numerologists out there can come up with a dozen leaders whose names equal 666.

My word of advice is this. Be prepared and you won't be sorry.

True but his predictions are very tricky to decipher and its up to the analyst to interpret them correctly.

Nostradamus did predict alot of things that did occur and he even predicted his own death.

He also wrote that anyone who drinks out of his skull would inherit his gift but if an unpure person who drinks from his skull for ill-gains would be struck down where he stands. - And thats what happened.

A soldier in the revolutionary war stood and drank from his skull (Im not sure what, maybe wine). - Over a mile away a shot was fired into the air by mistake and coincidentally hit the soldier in the head and he died instantly. Hectic

It is much easier to "predict" past events because you know what to look for. Maybe many of his predictions were changed because of other events so they didnt happen. (But that leads to a whole nother thread)

What if Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the Anti-christ? - But, I guess we will all only find out when its too late.

If we see a comet in the next couple months then you know its on!

Im' sorry it seems i have to burst some bubbles here....

In order to even believe in this "antichrist" theories , one has to consider the source, the "antichrist" theory originated in the bible, which is a fictional book. Therefore the entire Antichrist threory is fiction imho.

Trying to figure out which living human would best fit the description of "antichrist" is therefor a complete and utter waste of time.

my 2cents, no disrespect meant.

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[edit on 14-7-2006 by XyZeR]

Originally posted by XyZeR
Im' sorry it seems i have to burst some bubbles here....

In order to even believe in this "antichrist" theories , one has to consider the source, the "antichrist" theory originated in the bible, which is a fictional book. Therefore the entire Antichrist threory is fiction imho.

Trying to figure out which living human would best fit the description of "antichrist" is therefor a complete and utter waste of time.

my 2cents, no disrespect meant.

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[edit on 14-7-2006 by XyZeR]

YOU might think the Bible is fiction, but I don't... but as far as this iranian dood being the anti christ.. again as i said in another post... WHAT A CROCK!!!!!
ya know its almsot unbelievable how many ppl on this site want WW3 to happen..

Wow, you think the bible is fiction? - Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but sheesh.

I dont want WW3 to happen, Im just pointing out some things and providing information for you to make up your own mind.

I beleive Nostradamus did exist and he has predicted many things which did come true. If there is a comet in the next couple months then start stocking up.

I immediately did not believe those "predictions," or at least one site, simply because I read this-

"The pope will leave Rome when war starts. The pope John-Paul II will be captured and die at Lyon."

So much for being able to predict the future, eh?

Originally posted by XyZeR
Im' sorry it seems i have to burst some bubbles here....

In order to even believe in this "antichrist" theories , one has to consider the source, the "antichrist" theory originated in the bible, which is a fictional book. Therefore the entire Antichrist threory is fiction imho.

Trying to figure out which living human would best fit the description of "antichrist" is therefor a complete and utter waste of time.

my 2cents, no disrespect meant.

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[edit on 14-7-2006 by XyZeR]

You can't 'burst someones bubble' with your opinion.
You believe that the Bible is fiction, well good for you, hope thats working well for you, but alot of people believe it.
Until there is 100% definitive proof for either option, or until you bring a better argument to the table at the very least, no ones bubble will be broken by you.
No offence to you, but just claiming something does not make it real.
Your opening line implies you have some great knowledge that will refute all of this, then you go onto some very basic opinion.

Yes but that is but one example and like I said he has been wrong many times but he has also been right and as this website states - Nostradamus made over one thousand predictions and historians say that over half of them have already come true.

boisdarc.tamu-commerce.edu...

This is an exerpt from that site which predicts the 3 Anti-Christs. Napoleon, Hitler and now its time for the third which we can only speculate on.

Out of the country of Greater Arabia
Shall be born a strong master of Mohammed...
He will enter Europe wearing a blue turban.
He will be the terror of mankind.
Never more horror.

In the year 1999 and seven months
From the sky will come the great King of Terror.
He will bring back to life the King of the Mongols;
Before and after war reigns.
The war will last seven and twenty years.

The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.
Fire approaches the great new city.

By fire he will destroy their city,
A cold and cruel heart,
Blood will pour,
Mercy to none.

When those of the Northern Pole are united,
In the East will be great fear and dread...
One day the two great leaders will be friends;
Their great powers will be seen to grow.
The New Land will be at the height of its power:
To the man of blood the number is reported.

The new land was a common term used by Nostradamus to refer to what we now call America. The countries of the northern pole could be Russia and the United States. We have recently seen the breakdown of Communism in Russia and an increasing friendship between Russia and the U.S.

This refers to now.

as i have said many times before...what a CROCK!!!!!! i should get paid to say or type this line i say it so much.... and as far as Nostradamus being able to see the future... i say again what a CROCK!!! but i'm a true believer...not a fantasy believer..

Prophecy or not, i think alot of people are aware of the situation these days, you dont need predictions to know that humanity will eventually end up destroying itself, obliberating the future in the process. It will be a world where you are on your own, nobody will consider helping you. The primary survival instincts will arise because of that. And i doubt that some miracle will happen to make up for the mistakes we humans have made, we shape our world, our future and our planet, the problem is that mistakes of our past are often repeated, and the more we leap into the future, the more deadly those wars will become, rising to a level when a new world war will have severe consequences.

G'day all,

I myself was brought up religious but have extreme difficulty putting any sort of credence upon it in regards to endtimes and prophecy(or most of it for that matter). I do follow international politics and history as a little hobby of mine and it interests ,e the current state of affairs of the world.

In each and every corner of the world is some sort of conflict either going on on a small to medium scale, and it looks like it is being held back by something from going full on.
Yes, I know you might say what about Iraq, but at the moment it isnt a full scale assault, more like guerilla warfare between the States and Insurgents.

Alot of people I have talked to would agree with me that the current state of international politics is like a pot of heated water just about to boil over. We are on the edge right now. I dont beleive in the end of the world but I do beleive in a major international confrontation about to take place on many sides that will destabilise the world for many many years to come and shake up the balance of power.......remeniscent I suppose of the fall of the Austo-Hungarian Empire when everything basically turned to crap afterwards and the subsequent world wars.

What is it going to be that tilts the nations of the world over the edge?

I do not beleive that it'll be the Palestinian-Israeli conflict or the Iranian/North Korean situation in ernest, although they will have contributed to some of the tensions going on, but I honestly beleive that the organisation that we now know as the United Nations will collapse (and to tell you the truth I'm surprised that it already hasnt happend).

The U.N is a corrupt, power hungry, playboys conference social club without any balls to practice what ot preaches.

Where was the U.N when Saddam was gassing his people?
Where was the U.N when the massacres occured in Croatia, Bosnia, Somalia?
Where was the U.N when Mogabe was evicting white farmers of his lands in Zimbabwe and destroying homes of sympathisers?
Where is the U.N when it needs to take-on the Nuclear threat of North Korea?
(Iran isn't nuclear yet, but N.Korea is!)
Where is the U.N in regards to standing up to China's Human rights record?

many, many examples are out there of U.N hypocricy and double standards. As the League of Nations folded at the dawn of the last century igniting the so called "War to end all wars" (parts one and two), so too will the U.N collapse aswell, and when it does and it is publicly announced, the very next day missiles will start raining down on all the hotspots on the planet because the last chain on the link holding the wild horse from bolting would have snapped and all hell will then break loose.

As 'Guns and Roses song "Civil War"' stated, "First we creat a vacumn, then we drill that vacumn, as war increases, peace is a little closer".

The only benefit to all-out war is the light at the end of the tunnel.

In regards to the 3rd antichrist, when the # hits the fan, you will see everyone from your average joe-blow in the street to your honourable soldiers, to your world leaders all turn to the savagery and brutality that only mankind can inflictb upon himself in order to survive, in order to win his battles.

"You may laugh at me for preparing for war and it doesnt happen, and that's okay, but if it does, you will be banging on my door begging for help!"

Melbourne_Militia

P.S. It's good to hear people have some faith and pray for peace and the lord to intervene and help, but seriously, how many conflicts have occured in history and how many times have people asked for the lord to help them????????? Don't you think they would've given up by now? The only certainty in War and conflict is death!

Of Subject,But Did Any Know About 2010 When Alein Will Come???

I too think the Bible and antichrist is bull, but the scary thing is so many people (including dangerous and powerful people) do believe in it, it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy - this I wholeheartedly believe!

[edit on 17-7-2006 by RiotComing]

Saying the bible is is bull is strong words, everyone is entitled to their own opinion & beliefs of course but I recommend doing more research on the subject before you stay at that conclusion.
There are things in life which sometimes cannot be explained and can only be understood by believing in the bible.

Not believing in the Antichrist is understandable because no-one knows for certain & I like what Melbourne Militia stated which is sooo true.

"You may laugh at me for preparing for war and it doesnt happen, and that's okay, but if it does, you will be banging on my door begging for help!"

Saying the bible is is bull is strong words, everyone is entitled to their own opinion & beliefs of course but I recommend doing more research on the subject before you stay at that conclusion.

Sure everyone is indeed entitled to their own beliefs and oppinions, but not facts.

Oke it sure sounds like you 've done your "bible"-research... let me ask you some questions...

In what language was the original Bible written ?
How many different people had a hand in writing it ?
How many times has it been re-written and translated before the English version ?


I guess you actualy take everything in the bible for a fact ?

The bible's (or any other religious fictional books) sole purpose is to control people and keep them scared. Sure there are things you can't explain, but lettign the bible do that for you is way to easy imho.

anyway to get on topic: The entire "Antichrist" fairytale is so far out there, anyone who believes it, is actualy hoping for the Fire and brimstone ending of the world... which in my book classifies you as an extremist.

Originally posted by XyZeR

Oke it sure sounds like you 've done your "bible"-research... let me ask you some questions...

In what language was the original Bible written ?
How many different people had a hand in writing it ?
How many times has it been re-written and translated before the English version ?

Im guessing the above is retorical and dont need answering?

Im not a "Jesus Freak" but I do believe in God, Satan & Angels and a whole host of other things which I personaly think is more healthy than not because I consider them to be guidlines more than mind control.

Anyway, Religious belief is a whole-nother thread that Athiests, Satansist & beleivers could spend hours throwing words at each other from their own personal viewpoints and experiences.

Two previous Anti-Christs in Nostradamus's understanding & perception was Napoleon & Hitler. Hitler was a tyrannical man with a burning hatred towards Jews.

Who knows, maybe Nos thought they were possessed and maybe thats what the third antichrist will be too...and not neccessarily born as the Anti-Christ

And by the way, Im hardly an extremist. Im simply bringing to point Nostradamuss` predictions which may or may not be true & we will find out one day, Im not forcing the issue.
Read the earlier post of where it says the dates the war will start and where. I think it is relevant.

For you to be right means we will have another year worrying about things that may never happen but for me being right means a completely different thing.

The bible is not a factual dialouge.
Its peoples interpretations, different peoples perspectives and just different peoples stories.

the bible is exactly that, a good STORY!

A man cannot walk on water, unless it is shallow.
A man cannot rise from the dead, unless he was never dead in the first place.

It is all interpretation.

How can there be ONE god, one BEING, that supposidly created MAN KIND?

Mankind wasnt the first thing on this planet,
So he didnt create earth, then man, he created plants, he create living animals..
Did he create the planets that are billions upon billlions of lightyears (points up) that way?

Its a STORY.

S T O R Y!

We are living breathing beings, we wernt created in thin air, we evolved and science might not be able to tell you where we CAME from, but It can provide reasoninign behind almost everything in the bible.

Well, again...that is your interpretation and your belief. We could debate for hours on wether God does exists and so on but at the end of the day it falls back to faith.

There isnt concrete proof that he existed but think for a story to be written so long ago that still has a profound daily impact on peoples lives suggests that Jesus was a great man and not some conjuror.

I personally believe he did walk on water and turned water into wine etc but that is my belief and Im not imposing it on anyone.
Just based on my experiences I have come to the conclusion and belief that there is a benevolent power that created all things but I really dont want to turn this into a religous debate.
Remember he had many followers and they documented everything that occured because that is the way he wanted it because Religion was set to be guidlines for mankind for thousands of years to come.
We really need a second coming for people to truly and undoubtfully believe but that may be a long time away.

Nostradamus has predicted many things which have come true and his writings have been studied by scholars and influential people worldwide and if you read his predictions in an earlier post it does really spark some similarities to the present day and situation.

I really do think there will be a WW3. Mahmoud may or may not be the Anti-christ because it does all boil down to interpretation.

Originally posted by RiotComing
I too think the Bible and antichrist is bull, but the scary thing is so many people (including dangerous and powerful people) do believe in it, it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy - this I wholeheartedly believe!

[edit on 17-7-2006 by RiotComing]

OK, so you are in the thinking mode of the Bible being fiction, & a means of "controlling" people, & that the AntiChrist prophecy is fiction... but will become a self fulfilling prophecy....

... If & WHEN the AntiChrist / Beast 666 DOES rise to power, (regardless of the means) Then the prophecy in the Bible IS true.

.. also, the AntiChrist WILL self fulfill the prophecy, as he will be non other than Satan.
He'll give power to the false prophet to perform great wonders & "miracles" , & cause people to worship him because of the "magical, mystical" things he does.

Also, there is FACT & PROOF to back up the Bible. All you have to do is study a little, & do a little research, but you'll find that the Bible IS INDEED true, & not fiction.


I am often AMAZED at the numebr of people who think the Bible is false, or don't believe that there REALLY IS a Heaven & hell.....