Has anyone played Digital Devil Saga 1&2?

Okay seriously, I've read all sorts of testimonials about how many people who played DDS 1&2 just didn't understand them at all.
I can't see why.
Sure, it was a little unconventional in its stoytelling...
But it hit remarkably close to home on some of my views of the universe (about all things being composed of data, and how suns are extra-dimensional beings; not to mention all of the references to Hinduism and Buddhism).

But for real, did you not just love these games?
I mean, how many other games kill all of the protagonists?
And all the awesome monsters!
(also the appearance of the Demi-Fiend from SMT: Nocturne was awesome!!)
I know that this type of game can really appeal to many of the people up here on ATS/BTS, so, what did you all think?

dude, let people know that there are spoilers here.

and i've never played it, but i was wondering about the gameplay. what could it be compared to?

Actually, what I posted contains no spoilers, I was careful about my word usage.
In terms of gameplay, it is a typical turn-based traditional style rpg, with some improvments.
In both games, you download mantras to learn skills.
But you need to defeat enemies and gain atma in order to unlock the skills (consider atma like skill points in other games).
You also gain karma (experience points) from defeating enemies to gain levels.
The first game takes place in "The Junkyard". That's all I'm going to say about that.
In the junkyard, there are tribes all vying for control of something very special.
In order to gain true control, you have to devour your enemies.

This game is overall, very dark, but when you get into the second game, it has a very positive message.
I'd be glad to answer any other questions...

Originally posted by wu kung
I mean, how many other games kill all of the protagonists?

^^^spoiler^^^

Oh, right...
ooops...
Well, okay.
that's a screw-up on my part...
sorry.
I had actually intended this thread for those who had played the game already...
in my infinite ignorance, I had forgotten those who haven't played it yet...
sorry folks...

i ain't worried. alcohol will take care of that for me.

Just try not to be too drunk when playing these games.
There are two instances in pt.1 that you have to answer two questions a certain way, that will directly impact something for pt.2 (provided that you use your saved data from part 1).
There are also two questions in pt.2 that will impact something toward the end of pt.2.

you can get all the information you need from here:
www.gamefaqs.com...

and here:
www.gamefaqs.com...

and then you can choose which faq you would like to read from here:
www.gamefaqs.com...

seriously, these games are awesome and totally worth playing through (I played through them both twice); however, if you have a cheat device (codebreaker would be the preferred, in my opinion) it makes it soooooo much easier.

Best of luck!

I played the first one and really really tried to dig it, I really did. However, as I think is the case with a lot of Japan originated RPGs, something didn't come over in the translation.

However, overall the game mechanics were pretty good, even though I didn't understand why or how my "monster version" of te character grew or why my "human version" was so damn weak.

Graphics and sound were pretty decent too.

-O

Yeah, I guess it's not for everyone.
However, if you manage to play through both games, it is truly wonderous!