Questions for John Lear

reply to post by johnlear


John, hope you have a terrific New Year. I have a few questions maybe you will be able to shine some light on the assasination of Benazir Bhutto.

Many are saying that Osama Bin Laden was behind the killing or even the current Prime Minister of Pakistan.

1.What is your take and who do you really think is behind her assasination?

2. Is the United States Of America envolved in guarding the Nukes in Pakistan?

3. Do you think there will be an all out civil war in Pakistan since Benazir Bhutto's death?

4. Is the termoil in Pakistan over whether democracy should continue verses dictatorship or something entirely different then what we are being told?

5. How much of a factor of her being a woman running for Prime Minister do you think played a roll in her being killed if any? I do relize she held two terms as Prime Minister previously before her exile. Rik Riley

Originally posted by DrZERO

Of everything you have written the above quote fascinates me the most, I know you say that you have no more details, but can you at least impart where you uncovered this information or what lead you to this belief.

thanks always for your time and knowledge.

Thanks DrZERO. One of my 'contacts' who has been 'in' for many years told me one evening, 'I'll tell you something you won't believe. We have reround time 3 times' back to the Kennedy assassination. Thats all he said.

Sometime after, I heard from another source ' Yes, that's true. We were trying to 'fix' something but we only made it worse'.

That's all I know.

namaskaar john
spending lotta time on livingmoon.... get to see the big sunken road hole in guatamala...... dont you think its too big for a underground sewage system
i dont know as in delhi i have never came across such huge ones that too with such a thin roof to crumple in like that...........
does that hole still exist...????????
also about the nasa video of a peekaboo spacecraft in a falling booster.... dont u think its so completly resembles the picture of shadows in one of the moon anomaly picture

This man confirms John Lear's theory about water activity under the US!


video.google.de...

Watch about 24:55, David Corso a vet talks about rumors that the US Navy had subs that can go right into the middle of the US!

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I think this concept (rewinding time) blows my mind more than any other theories that have been presented here on ATS. And, I do not say that lightly. Who can say it isn't possible? Perhaps, only attempted three times because of repeated 'failures'...*but, who was 'outside' to tell the difference?

Time...matter...energy...All interconnected in ways we are still struggling to understand.

Not to diminish the importance of understanding, but a very funny quote from Homer Simpson: "What is Time? Doesn't matter. What is Matter? Nevermind." That has stuck with me for years...again, it points out how little we really know, and how we are on a journey to learn.

My two dollars (inflation, ya know!).

Thanks

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[edit on 28-12-2007 by weedwhacker]

Originally posted by johnlear
Originally posted by DrZERO

Of everything you have written the above quote fascinates me the most, I know you say that you have no more details, but can you at least impart where you uncovered this information or what lead you to this belief.

thanks always for your time and knowledge.

Thanks DrZERO. One of my 'contacts' who has been 'in' for many years told me one evening, 'I'll tell you something you won't believe. We have reround time 3 times' back to the Kennedy assassination. Thats all he said.

Sometime after, I heard from another source ' Yes, that's true. We were trying to 'fix' something but we only made it worse'.

That's all I know.

Butterfly effect anyone?

So John, I realise that you may have just been told this and indeed know nothing more than the quote itself, however I was just wondering about your ideas around time regarding this?

If they have gone back several time to 'fix' something, and only made things worse, and yet clearly we all recall only one history, how is it that they are able to recal the previous histories in order to go back and change them?

If you were only told that and have no underlining understanding of how that would work from a time-space-whatever point of view, then fair enough. But if you have any theories on that, I'd love to know. Thanks!...

Originally posted by Paul the seeker

Watch about 24:55, David Corso a vet talks about rumors that the US Navy had subs that can go right into the middle of the US!

Thanks for the heads up Paul. Here is the quote:

David: I have... No. But I have heard from more than one source that you can go from the coast by Los Angeles almost to the middle of the country in a submarine.

www.projectcamelot.org...

This confirms what I think. Now I would like to know if the Nuke Sub that was seen in an underground lake near St. Louis got there from up the Mississippi or from Los Angeles.

Thanks again Paul.

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No problem glad i picked that up.

Must say i quite believe that now, it also confirms with the Hollow Earth theory that I'm kind of into by now.

I still don't see the neccessity for such hightech classified sub since UFOs=USOs are such an everyday thing for the military. Guess they're even teaching us Europeans how to do that now.

According to Phil Schneider the Navy has a classified submarine called "Phoenix Class" if i remember correctly, which can go about 10 miles deep and stay there for months".

I'm also a believer of what you claimed (and kind of fought with Mr. Hoagland lol...)about the Moon having a breathable athmosphere...after I heard the same from William Cooper who i give high trust.

[edit on 28-12-2007 by Paul the seeker]

Hello! I'm pretty new to the forum, but have read over it for quite sometime now. It seems to me that you are one of the most respected authorities or knowing persons on here. I have an oppinion question for you...

Some time ago I read about the 1909 Atrizona Gazette article about caverns in the Grand Canyon. I'm willing to bet you have heard the stories about Smithsonian cover ups and the such. In cluding the fact that the whole area of the Grand Canyon surrounding " Isis' Temple is totally off limits to this day.

My question is to get your seemingly expert opinoion on my theory. ( If ya don't mind)

I believe that if the article is true and Eygptian artifacts were truly discovered there ( in a place also extremely scared to the Hoppi and Anasazi ) with other random pyramid type discoveries around the world over the past century. ( Montana, Bosnia, and various other un assumed locations ). It seems to me that there was already a " World Order " and the saying that "the Pharohs will rise again" is plainly coming to be in the
" New World Order ". The connections seem so altruistic, but I can't help but believe that for millenia certain powers have been trying to literally rebuild the " world order " that was in existance prior to the " Flood". I was thinking that would be such a long and generational process that the bloodlines have been kept in place to maintain certain power and control to actually achieve such a massive global colaboration. To rebuild what once was. I have theorized that this is what is coming to be in our present day chaos of politics and world waring. It will take take much collaboration and much death, yet that seems to be exactly what is occuring. "NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM".

IN YOUR OPPINION DO YOU THINK MY IDEAS ARE FLIGHTS OF THE IMAGINATION OR SEEMINGLY POSSIBLE TO THE MIND SOME ONE WHO OBSERVES TO MUCH?

THANKS y.m.o.s.

Dear Mr. Lear,

I have listened to you and Bob Lazar (on cost to cost mostly, but Bob on other shows as well) for quite some time now, and I generally believe what you say to be true. I feel as though some of the things you say are a tad bit outrageous at times and I don't claim to believe everything, but you got me on some things.


Anyway, I was just wondering what (job) position most of your informants had in the government, or if they were civilian what job they had. I'm not looking for names or anything like that. I don't care who they were, just what they did and possibly how they got there.

Thanks in advance.

Johnny Sasaki

John, I have a simple question; are you familiar with Daniel Ross' 1987 book UFOs and the Complete Evidence from Space? I ran across something about it, and it sure seems to fit your view of our solar system to a T:

This remarkable book was published in 1987, but for some reason has never become widely known in the UFO world. Written by an ex-United States submariner, it presents compelling evidence that the cosmology put forward by George Adamski is a true picture of the Solar System and the Universe, and that powerful factions here on Earth have gone to extreme lengths to give the public a very different view.

The book considers Mars, the Moon and Venus separately and in detail, and shows evidence that they are all living environments. Several photographs of Mars were published in the book, the most spectacular being one of Olympus Mons, showing extensive cloud cover and green areas - a very Earthlike environment in fact. The first Viking photograph is also there - showing a blue sky. The significance of this was not realised at first, but it was quickly denounced as false colour and replaced by lurid pink pictures.

The Moon's gravity is apparently much greater than the one-sixth Earth gravity that is accepted by orthodox science, and the whirls and leaps predicted for astronauts never happened.

All The Planets Are Inhabited (some page about the book)

UFOs and the Complete Evidence from Space (link to the book on Amazon.com)

No judgment implied or intended... just curious as to whether this book contributed to your theories. I had been in the dark as to where some of them could have been derived. Thanks!

Originally posted by rikriley

Many are saying that Osama Bin Laden was behind the killing or even the current Prime Minister of Pakistan.

1.What is your take and who do you really think is behind her assasination?

Osama, if even alive, which I doubt, was not behind the assassination. We (the U.S.) probably had something to do with it.

2. Is the United States Of America envolved in guarding the Nukes in Pakistan?

There are several stories circulating about that. We probably have some kind of control.

3. Do you think there will be an all out civil war in Pakistan since Benazir Bhutto's death?

We, (the U.S.) will porovoke whatever needs to be done to facilitate our goal. Whatever that may be.

4. Is the termoil in Pakistan over whether democracy should continue verses dictatorship or something entirely different then what we are being told?

The turmoil is aided and abetted if not outright provoked by the U.S. to acheive our goals whatever those goals may be.

5. How much of a factor of her being a woman running for Prime Minister do you think played a roll in her being killed if any? I do relize she held two terms as Prime Minister previously before her exile. Rik Riley

Bhutto being a woman had nothing to do with her assassination although it contributed helpfully to the increased turmoil.

Sorry I can't give you better answers. If I knew more specifcally what or plan was other than world domination I would be able to give better answers.

Have a Happy New Year!

Originally posted by Young minded old soul

I have theorized that this is what is coming to be in our present day chaos of politics and world waring. It will take take much collaboration and much death, yet that seems to be exactly what is occuring. "NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM".

IN YOUR OPPINION DO YOU THINK MY IDEAS ARE FLIGHTS OF THE IMAGINATION OR SEEMINGLY POSSIBLE TO THE MIND SOME ONE WHO OBSERVES TO MUCH?

THANKS y.m.o.s.

Thanks for the post y.m.o.s. Yes, I believe your are esentially correct about the intentions of the NWO. However, I don't believe they will succeed in the manner they hope to.

They will eventually be stripped of power and authority and we will start to live in peace.

Happy New Year.

Originally posted by Johnny Sasaki

Anyway, I was just wondering what (job) position most of your informants had in the government, or if they were civilian what job they had. I'm not looking for names or anything like that. I don't care who they were, just what they did and possibly how they got there.
Thanks in advance.
Johnny Sasaki

Thanks for the posts Johhny Sasaki. I can't tell you how any of them got into their jobs because I don't know.

2 where scientists with Lockheed.

Several worked at the Nevada Test Site.

3 worked at Sandia.

1 worked at TTR.

And one, I don't know who he worked for did many things. One, he built a piece of mining machinery that was to be sent to the moon. From my understanding of what he claimed it was at least an acre in size and many stories tall. This gentlemen also told me about the 4th astronaut killed in Apollo one and the civilization on Mars. He told me we had been on the Moon since 1962 and Mars since 1966.

Happy New Year.

Originally posted by skip_brilliantine

John, I have a simple question; are you familiar with Daniel Ross' 1987 book UFOs and the Complete Evidence from Space? I ran across something about it, and it sure seems to fit your view of our solar system to a T:

Thanks for the post Skip. I believe have that book although it is not on the bookshelf in my den.

This remarkable book was published in 1987, but for some reason has never become widely known in the UFO world. Written by an ex-United States submariner, it presents compelling evidence that the cosmology put forward by George Adamski is a true picture of the Solar System and the Universe, and that powerful factions here on Earth have gone to extreme lengths to give the public a very different view.

The book considers Mars, the Moon and Venus separately and in detail, and shows evidence that they are all living environments. Several photographs of Mars were published in the book, the most spectacular being one of Olympus Mons, showing extensive cloud cover and green areas - a very Earthlike environment in fact. The first Viking photograph is also there - showing a blue sky. The significance of this was not realized at first, but it was quickly denounced as false colour and replaced by lurid pink pictures.

The Moon's gravity is apparently much greater than the one-sixth Earth gravity that is accepted by orthodox science, and the whirls and leaps predicted for astronauts never happened.

No judgment implied or intended... just curious as to whether this book contributed to your theories. I had been in the dark as to where some of them could have been derived. Thanks!

I am sure it contributed. There are many sources for my theories of the gravity and atmosphere on the moon and fact that each and every planet and satellite in our solar system is inhabited by people like us but who a slightly more sociologically advanced. Which is to say they do not wake up in the morning looking for Arab/Muslims to kill.

When you finally realize the significance of the pitiful Apollo astronauts hops on the moon; the pure black of the lunar skies in all of NASA's photos; the neutral point of 43,495 miles; Apollo 17 as the last alleged voyage to the moon; Neil Armstrong's silence; the secrecy of the Apollo astronauts; the pitifully few statements of the Apollo astronauts; the impossibility of the lunar lander task with rocket technology; the absurdity of the 'rotational lock' theory and the equally absurd mainstream science explanation; the history of the moon; the reason for the photographs faking the Apollo missions on the moon) whether or not they really went; the photos that clearly show (at least to some) mining operations, cities, huge constructs; there comes a time when you finally realize: We have been scammed by NAZA!"

You finally realize the moon has an atmosphere and substantial gravity and that people live there. And that people live on Venus, Mars, Saturn, Uranus and all of the other planets and satellites.

But what to we earthlings get? A parade of unnecessary wars, gas prices at $4 a gallon and leaders who profit by the cultivation, harvest, distribution of illegal drugs; oh, and an occasional fabricated story, preaching doom and gloom for the masses like this Planet X baloney. Just to mention of the few 'benefits' of living on earth.

Those responsible for the mess on Earth will eventually be stripped of their power and authority and we will begin to live in peace.

Whether or not that will come in my lifetime I do not know.

Have a Happy New Year.

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Wow John. You resorted to posting large swaths of identical cut and paste manifesto in different threads of the forum. I just answered an identical bunch of baseless claims on the Venus thread.

That practice of yours is nothing short of spamming.

reply to post by buddhasystem


Incredibly ironic, when you consider the concept of the "big lie" and its use by Adolph Hitler and the Nazi Party.

Pot: "Hey Kettle, you're black"......

Clarification: This post refers to J. Lear's use of copy and paste content for individual posts.



[edit on 4-1-2008 by MrPenny]

Originally posted by MrPenny

Incredibly ironic, when you consider the concept of the "big lie" and its use by Adolph Hitler and the Nazi Party.

Pot: "Hey Kettle, you're black"......

Happy New Year MrPenny.

Let me respectfuly suggest that while I don't believe BS's mainstream scientific outlook and I do consider it a 'big lie' that I see no reason to compare him to Adolph Hitler and the NAZA Party.

All members are entitled to their view whether or not we personally agree with it.

But thanks for the post.

Happy New Year.

Originally posted by buddhasystem

Wow John. You resorted to posting large swaths of identical cut and paste manifesto in different threads of the forum. I just answered an identical bunch of baseless claims on the Venus thread.

That practice of yours is nothing short of spamming.

Sorry BS. It took you more than 10 seconds to respond to my first post so I posted the general idea in another thread to get your attention. Then when I came back you had already responded.

Please accept my sincerest New Year apologies.

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Shucks, I wondered if it would be clear that I was referring to your use of the concept......

I apologize for any confusion....