Questions for John Lear

Originally posted by HooHaa

Ok if all planets in our solar system harbor some form of life of varying tech levels. Why haven't some ham operator or someone else picked up on there tv show?

With the proper equipment TV shows from others planets should be accessable.

Or why wouldn't there be people out there like us that try to reach out and contact other races?

I would assume that after a few days of world news from earth nobody would be interested in reaching out for contact with anyone here. But thats just a guess.

To me it seems logical that some alien kid sitiing down with his laptop or whatever and try to beam out a message to earth in order to get a reply.

That does seem logical. So, either nobody is beaming a greeting from outer space, or we don't have the proper equipment set up to receive it.

Onviously the PTB can't scramble every transmission that comes from space, could they?

My opinion is that they do an excellent job with all major news outlets.

Originally posted by darkbluesky

darkbluesky,

I'd call that a crater with a dry lake bed at it's nadir.

Let's chalk this one up to stupid answers to snappy questions!

Originally posted by johnlear

With the proper equipment TV shows from others planets should be accessable.

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I would assume that after a few days of world news from earth nobody would be interested in reaching out for contact with anyone here. But thats just a guess.

It would seem to me presumptive to think that other civilizations would even be interested in entertainment such as TV. Television, for us, is the exploitation of good invention to promote our own lethargy. Why would another civilization have such inclinations?

But, regarding your last statement quoted above....i would think that if any other civilization caught 5 minutes of Nancy Grace they would think us all idiots. If i ever want to laugh at ridiculous commentary (and John Madden isn't doing football) i can tune into Nancy Grace and not be disappointed.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

It would seem to me presumptive to think that other civilizations would even be interested in entertainment such as TV. Television, for us, is the exploitation of good invention to promote our own lethargy. Why would another civilization have such inclinations?

You are the presumptive one to think that we are any worse or better than any other civilization. There are billions and billions of earths just like ours. Some more advanced, some less advanced; some at exactly the same level of developement. And many a very near by. And they probably all have TV's. There is no reason to suspect that they don't have TV shows identical to ours but with different names like "Late Night with Rfjjjto Bmdlkriofhtuggg''. Or "Desparate Klndjhiekcrd".

But, regarding your last statement quoted above....i would think that if any other civilization caught 5 minutes of Nancy Grace they would think us all idiots. If i ever want to laugh at ridiculous commentary (and John Madden isn't doing football) i can tune into Nancy Grace and not be disappointed.

On the contrary, a nearby earthlike type civilization might be conspiring to get Nancy Grace to run for Queen of their civilization.

Originally posted by johnlear
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

It would seem to me presumptive to think that other civilizations would even be interested in entertainment such as TV. Television, for us, is the exploitation of good invention to promote our own lethargy. Why would another civilization have such inclinations?

You are the presumptive one to think that we are any worse or better than any other civilization. There are billions and billions of earths just like ours. Some more advanced, some less advanced; some at exactly the same level of developement. And many a very near by. And they probably all have TV's. There is no reason to suspect that they don't have TV shows identical to ours but with different names like "Late Night with Rfjjjto Bmdlkriofhtuggg''. Or "Desparate Klndjhiekcrd".

But, regarding your last statement quoted above....i would think that if any other civilization caught 5 minutes of Nancy Grace they would think us all idiots. If i ever want to laugh at ridiculous commentary (and John Madden isn't doing football) i can tune into Nancy Grace and not be disappointed.

On the contrary, a nearby earthlike type civilization might be conspiring to get Nancy Grace to run for Queen of their civilization.

Touche', John.

I don't mean we should not presume it possible that another civiliation could have TV. I would even say that if we use our world as a model, it would seem probable.

however, consider a civilization that didn't value television as an entertainment tool. Or, consider a civilization that could communicate with everyone automatically via telepathy, etc (creating a "Borg-like" collective consciousness).

Within our solar system the problem isn't so bad. But the physics of a more distant system might preclude the environment needed to sustain the level of achievement needed to want something like TV (a la Mazlow's Hierarchy).

Honestly, i believe that if another civilization did have TV the technology would likely be far different. In our world, much of our technology has been driven via various covert and/or selfish actions. Why do we use RF so widely? Did you know that your cable TV and internet is communicated via RF signals? Your wireless router, telephone....everything is RF. Why have we invested so heavily in this piece of the spectrum? What if the physics of our local system "masked" RF frequencies for some reason, making them unavailable? Joseph Biddink believes (and is supported by many, many examples) that ETI utilizes much more subtle energies to communicate. If this is so, then what their TV is capable of would also be altered. Consider utilizing something akin to Grav A or Grav B waves to encode your data on...how would that affect TV?

I guess you and I speak the same point from different angles. Yeah, there is nothing stating that they won't. So we have no reason to think that they don't have TV (or something similar, anyway). And we DO have reason to think they may, based on who/what we are as a planet.

It is interesting to think of what their TV would be like. If they want Nancy Grace as their leader, however, i may not want to visit.

Hi John, I wondered what you thought of MILABS? Do you think that some military folk on this planet are carrying out abductions on the public, using alien technology, accompanied by greys, and are abusing their powers for their own selfish, and perhaps also perverted reasons?I've met too many folk who've had experiences that didn't make sense. It's as if someone was actually deliberately "playing" with them, or using them as guinea pigs and/or while they learn to calibrate their new technology. Do you have an opinion on this? Thanks in advance.

Originally posted by wigit

Hi John, I wondered what you thought of MILABS? It's as if someone was actually deliberately "playing" with them, or using them as guinea pigs and/or while they learn to calibrate their new technology. Do you have an opinion on this? Thanks in advance.

The military (or government or whoever) have been playing abductor for many years. They have their own anti-grav units and dress up as aliens. Just after the abduction occurs the subject is hypnotized (not the exact word for efficiently mind-controlled) and then used for experiments.

A lady I know wasn't properly mind controlled/sedated and watched them take off their fake alien heads and costumes and listened to them joke around. This happened about 25 years ago so I am sure they are a lot better at it these days.

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[edit on 8-8-2007 by johnlear]

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Bad John, bad bad John! (smacks wrist with Catholic ruler)

Mustn't bring that up! Bad! (smack!)

There's been some nice work done on that. I seem to recall Martin Cannon wrote up something on it long ago. There are almost always oddball "breakthrough" memories - you know, I'm tied to a table, the grey aliens are sticking something in my butt, there's a guy with a notebook in the corner, they are sucking out something with a hose, an NCO just walked in with a cup of coffee, that sort of thing. Sort of like the greys/spaceship/et al were cover memories over something else.

Anyway, there used to be a joke that used to be passed around from the old days when they were on paper and had been xeroxed 100 times.

The upshot was that all the "ufos" were actually military ships, whose security personnel were SF, and if you got a good look at one by accident, they'd land and "abduct" you and fix it by exchanging your memory for the usual bogus alien one. But you could always tell whose ships you'd seen after the fact by the telltale signs.

If it was Army, the SF would tune your car, put you back in the seat properly, and leave a six pack of cold beer, but they'd subvert your kids.

If it was Marines, the FR's would drag you by your feet both ways, clean out your wallet to buy themselves beer, and leave you in an antpile on the side of the road.

If it was Air Force, the PJ's would cut a hole in the car roof and extract you through it without bothering to see if the door was unlocked. They don't drink beer.

And if it's Navy SEALs, you get an "anal probing".

Originally posted by Tom Bedlam

And if it's Navy SEALs, you get an "anal probing".

Ain't that just like a SEAL! I mean they are all like that! All of them! It's a Navy thing.

It must be true - the Navy owns the bulk of the darn things, which would explain the many anal probing stories.

Also, and this is pure speculation, the reptilian ones as well. Don't reptilians wear blue? The little wormy guys wear gray? I see a pattern here.

So what is the end result if there is a joint force force working together on an abduction? Do they drink the beer with you during the probing or do they drink it in front of you during this event?

Originally posted by NJ Mooch

So what is the end result if there is a joint force force working together on an abduction? Do they drink the beer with you during the probing or do they drink it in front of you during this event?

There have been several attempts at a joint operation. The result was that there was such a row over who was going to give the orders and who was going to take the orders that the subject had to abduct himself, perform his own anal-probe, steal the beer and jump out on his own. (I heard it was over 30 feet to the ground.)

Originally posted by johnlear

There have been several attempts at a joint operation. The result was that there was such a row over who was going to give the orders and who was going to take the orders that the subject had to abduct himself, perform his own anal-probe, steal the beer and jump out on his own. (I heard it was over 30 feet to the ground.)

Thanks for that John that had me in stitches. Nice to see my mouthful of milk almost get sprayed over my PC there. Pure classic

[edit on 8-8-2007 by thesaint]

LUNAR TOWER

Hello again John,

Many thanks ( belatedly ) for your take on Neil Armstrong's cryptic 1994 comment regarding truth's protective layers. The more I research, the more wondrous the cosmos becomes. There truly are places to go and see that are '' beyond belief ''

Regarding the huge tower ( soul catcher ) slap bang in the middle of our moon, do you suppose this could be a relay tower as described by remote viewers in the book Alien Agenda by Jim Marrs :

page 313....''...One of the sights most fascinating to remote viewers who have soared through space is not the vehicles flying around with living beings inside, but towers located on airless worlds throughout the galaxy. They seem to be sort of relay towers. They claim these towers appear to fling vehicles beyond light-speed from one part of the galaxy to another, bypassing time and space. ''There are technologies far ahead of us out there '' commented Morehouse ...''

Regards

Brian.

Originally posted by pippadee

Regarding the huge tower ( soul catcher ) slap bang in the middle of our moon, do you suppose this could be a relay tower as described by remote viewers in the book Alien Agenda by Jim Marrs :

page 313....''...One of the sights most fascinating to remote viewers who have soared through space is not the vehicles flying around with living beings inside, but towers located on airless worlds throughout the galaxy. They seem to be sort of relay towers. They claim these towers appear to fling vehicles beyond light-speed from one part of the galaxy to another, bypassing time and space. ''There are technologies far ahead of us out there '' commented Morehouse ...''

Regards

Brian.

Just replace the word 'souls' for the word 'vehicles'. Then you have it.

john,
your concept of the soul catcher is just horrifying.

What idea of the human do you have personally?
ImO many people have gotten to the point, that oldschool medicine isn´t realistic and have gotten to good, alternative ones.
the´concept´of Rudolf Steiner for example,is a good, hopeful and almost scientific one.
the spiritual origin of mankind, development through many stages, along with all kinds of higher/ lower spirits,along with the parallel development of planets and their higher spirits involved, Christ as an important (earth/cosmic) carmic event .
I´m not talking of the ´anthroposophic society´as such, but Steiner´s original descriptions.

en.wikipedia.org...

about you, on the one hand side, I´ve the impression of an down-to-earth, experienced, sympatic man. on the another, I have many doubts, and even the impression of a pure storyteller.

we are aware we live in extremely militarized times, not even nowing, when we can ever trust government again in the next years. (not speaking of nutty Bush.)
I believe and think now its the time where all concepts meet.
I posted an own threat about this. I think the political game isn´t over and democracy is in danger.


[edit on 13-8-2007 by anti72]

Hey, i was listening to an old interview of you on coast to coast, with George Noory, and at the end of it he plays "The Lear Disclosure" which was two years before with Art Bell. Anyway at around the end of this disclosure you talk about certain photos and clips, including alien mutilations, a craft that was over 250 ft in diameter and had to be buried, a being tied down on a stretcher, structures on the moon, 5 sec slides of different alien species etc. Are these photos anywhere online, or do you have any of them that you could you post here.

[edit on 15-8-2007 by luis9343]

Question for Mr Lear:

Our space system is based on rockets to get us out of the atmosphere which uses a lot of fuel. I once saw some documentary about the SR71. The guy in the documentary said something about how if the pilot wasn't careful he could accidentally fly into space.

So my question is this: Is that possible? And if it is possible, then why do we need huge rockets? Cant we just have a jet like the SR71 modified for space travel?

Thanks for any info,
mv

Originally posted by martianvirus
Question for Mr Lear:

Our space system is based on rockets to get us out of the atmosphere which uses a lot of fuel. I once saw some documentary about the SR71. The guy in the documentary said something about how if the pilot wasn't careful he could accidentally fly into space.

So my question is this: Is that possible? And if it is possible, then why do we need huge rockets? Cant we just have a jet like the SR71 modified for space travel?

Thanks for any info,
mv

I don't know. I am not a rocket scientist (and i haven't stayed in a Holiday Inn Express in quite a while, either), but that seems wrong.

Jets require extreme compression of air to create a highly intensified explosive force from the jet fuel. Without this, the jet would be unable to fire effectively, and it would stall. Sure, perhaps the SR71 could achieve a low earth orbit...but there are severe difficulties that arise with this relative to the characterstics of the atmosphere (which will be discussed at some future point, for sure). The rapidly spinning turbines of a jet engine would not be able to tolerate too much elevation, so i would be interested to see what the specifics this individual refers to when making this statement.

John isn't a rocket scientist either...but i bet he knows a whole lot more about it than i do for sure!!!

reply to John Learpost by johnlear

Hi John,

I have been reading what you have been posting at ABTS concerning the moon, mars and soul catchers after I heard you talk on the radio a while back. I have not heard of the information you brought forth by anyone else at the time when you were being interviewed. It is very interesting and facinating indeed. And if true this information provides a breakthru of some of the things that are going on especially regarding technology. It is a courageous stand to take when up against main stream scientists.

I must say when you brought forth the nature of soul catcher it wasn't that easy to accept. But after reading some other things and including Sleepers posts I will keep it in mind.

If you don't mind I would like to ask you a few questions.

1) Do you know of anyone else who states the moon doesn't rotate and brought in place not by natural means?

2) How many moons does the Earth have?

3) Did you ever come in contact with Maurice Chatelain?

Btw this is my fisrt posting here so I'm not sure how this will come out.

Thankyou