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posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 01:45 AM
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Originally posted by Buffalo Voice
Hi John, great thread. What do you think the ultimate agenda really is? After disclosure, then what?



Thanks. No disclosure for 3 or 4 more generations. The ultimate agenda? Tying to get us out of our current agenda of "bomb, rape, pillage, lie.' Will they succeed? It will take time.



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by andy1033



john what would happen if a human dies on another planet that is not earth, if your theory is true. if a person died on another planet, what would you think would happen to his soul, or do you not think it would matter?


Their souls recycle just like ours.


2) is there any books out there that you would advise us to read, on any of the subjects that we have on this board?


McElligot's Pool by Dr. Suess comes to mind.


3) john did you ever meet william cooper, and what were your views on his speaking out and what happened at his death. do you think they got him(he died just after 911, so they may of wanted him to not speak what he was speaking after that event). why do you think they killed him, and what was your best memory with him?


He was well spoken and could drink expensive scoth as fast as I could.



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 01:59 AM
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Originally posted by freakyty



If the govt acknowledges the existence of ETs, one has to assume they have been lying to us for decades. How can the they disclose the existence of ETs and at the same time expect the public to believe their spin? I suppose they will give us a false explanation for the secrecy as well.


Infinite arrogance breeds infinite contempt. Don't worry about them.


I really can't see any govt disclosure happening in the next year, fake or not. What led you to believe that this may happen?


Reading the Project Serpo threads.



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 02:05 AM
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Originally posted by timski




Hi John, you mention that there are over a dozen other stellar races and that there is collusion to deny their existance to the populace of earth.


Over a dozen? Try billions of billions.


My question is, wouldn't it actually benefit mankind to know that we are not the only sentient life in the galaxy...surely it would encourage all mankind to advance with science, technology and exploration rather than continue to be so self-obssessed and introspective and hell-bent on our own destruction?


No, at this point in our development our leaders we would just put together another plan of attack.




posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 02:12 AM
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Originally posted by helium3



In your breifing with Art on Coast some time ago you referred to security guards having to be slowly exposed to horrendous looking aliens causing a few security guards had heart attacks. Are you talking about Dulce ?


No. This is at area 51.


Also what are your thoughs on Phil Schneider and his story about the fire fight at Dulce base. Where Schneider claims to have been shot by a gray and shot to grays.


The massacre occurred in the early 80's. 66 U. S. scientists amd Delta Force were killed. I have several independent confirmations of this accident other than Phil.


"Anyway I got shot in the chest with one of their weapons, which was a box on their body, that blew a hole in me and gave me a nasty dose of cobalt radiation. I have had cancer because of that.".


Yes, he sure did.



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 02:28 AM
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Hi John

Do you give any credence to the hollow earth theories?

Do you think that the US Gov are the way they are about the truth by choice or because higher powers enforce it somehow? i.e. could they be honest if they wanted to?

Thanks



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 02:42 AM
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Originally posted by Prote


Do you give any credence to the hollow earth theories?


Yes.


Do you think that the US Gov are the way they are about the truth by choice or because higher powers enforce it somehow?


By agreement. Technology for silence.


i.e. could they be honest if they wanted to?


MJ12 controls. The last vote was, I believe 7 to 5 against disclosure. Its impossible to know whos getting influenced by who.



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 02:44 AM
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John , thank you again for your repliesto everyones questions.

However, I noticed you dont seem to reply to any questions regarding classified or formerly-classified projects that you may have worked on. Were you ever part of aany projectslike that? Can you you tell us what?

If you dont want to reply to these types of questions pleaselet us know so we'll stop asking


And I notice we keep the same hours...

[edit on 12-7-2006 by Tiloke]



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 03:27 AM
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Originally posted by Tiloke



However, I noticed you dont seem to reply to any questions regarding classified or formerly-classified projects that you may have worked on. Were you ever part of aany projectslike that? Can you you tell us what?


Was never involved in any really secret projects. I held a Q clearance and flew a B-26, OV-10, Turbo-prop Beech and Huey helo for various contractors to DOE. The last one I think was Dynalectron (they have changed their name since then). I flew air sampling missions over the Nevada Test Site during underground nuclear tests. I flew the same airplanes for EPA on air sampling missions throughout Nevada and Arizona.

Between 1966 and 1972 I flew missions for the CIA throughout southeast Asia; Laos, Cambodia and Viet Nam. I flew for CASI. They were all just delivering guns and ammo to our allies. I ferried USAF FAC aircraft from Wichita to Nha Trang (CIA contract).

Between 1977 and 1982 I flew CIA missions throughout Eastern Europe and Africa. All guns and ammo to allies.

In 1981 I was on standby in Cairo to fly the arms and ammo promised to Iran by Reagan called the 'October Suprise.' I never made a delivery because the first airplane in, an Argentinian CL-44 got shot down by the Russians over Yerevan, and Mossad, who was running the operation, didn't want to risk losing the Boeing 707 I was flying. The arms where eventually flown from the UAE to Tehran by another company.

I got shot down in Laos in a Twin Otter but made it into a dirt strip in friendly territory. The airplane was repaired the next day and we flew it out. I have written about all this in "John Lear on John Lear" somewhere on the web.



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 03:38 AM
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John i found this.
yawp.com...

And a portion from the link.



He then decided to test the UFO society by faking some government documents about aliens, the Krlll (pronounced "Krill") Files. All of the UFO society (but one) checked out the material included in the files and found large inconsistencies and lies. The one person who didn't was Cooper, who claimed to have seen the documents when he was working for the government. When the files were declared as faked, Lear and Cooper were barred from Paranet and the friendship between them broke down, Cooper accusing Lear of being a government agent. Lear is now lecturing about his Hypothesis.


Do you have any comments on this statement?



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 04:00 AM
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Originally posted by johnlear
I have written about all this in "John Lear on John Lear" somewhere on the web.


www.bajabushpilots.com...

After reading that I could seriously picture you splashing aviation fuel on your face as if it was cologne



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 04:14 AM
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With all thing's set aside for the mean time of disclosyre of it being fact. Why would they/them/whoever want to be interested in us except for the "Soul" theory. Is there something that the moon or the earth produces,(Other than soul's) that they could possibly want. I have done exstensive research in ot the moon and have found out that the moon would be a perfect mining facilitation center for the ever sought for "New' ore and or chemical , such as 3HE/4HE?



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 04:14 AM
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Didn't mean to double post MOD'S. sorry!-)


[edit on 12-7-2006 by wildbill]

no problem, wildbill...it happens

[edit on 12-7-2006 by masqua]



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 04:52 AM
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Originally posted by bramski

Originally posted by johnlear
I have written about all this in "John Lear on John Lear" somewhere on the web.


www.bajabushpilots.com...

After reading that I could seriously picture you splashing aviation fuel on your face as if it was cologne



Holy crap the last paragragh was the best.... i laughed so loud i scared my girlfreind



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 08:09 AM
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John and all,

Please also consider the information published on this website:

www.realityuncovered.com...

It doesn't leave me with the best impression of Rick Doty... for example (emphasis mine):



According to Victor Martinez' own information, he (Victor) received 18 emails from McGovern over a six week period. ALL of these emails had the exact same IP address as 118 emails received from Rick Doty during the same time period. The IP address in question is the source computer IP address - NOT an ISP or mail server IP address as some would have you believe. This is an important point to make. The simple fact of the matter is that the emails sent to Victor Martinez by Rick Doty and Paul McGovern were sent from the SAME physical computer.


It seems to me that project serpo has more than a few problems...



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by TheyAreNotWhoTheySayTheyR
Geeze... I should go get a pilots licence and a "FAA certified" i-can-fix-some-planes badge
then i can make all kinds of outrageous claims too!


like... aliens on every planet Mr. Lear?

I was fairly sure that Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune and URANUS are GAS planets.

You know. GAS. HOT AIR.


Your comments are not really constructive. If you do not agree that is cool but to attack like that is just a bit immature.

I am guessing you haven't personally been to the planets you mention. Until you do, I guess you have the option to keep an open mind.............



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by TheyAreNotWhoTheySayTheyR
"I am guessing you haven't personally been to the planets you mention. Until you do, I guess you have the option to keep an open mind............."

OK now I'll just laugh!



You only know what you have been told. For many centuries we were all told the earth was flat. So to totally dismiss in a insideous matter anyone's claims that YOU can't personally prove as untrue, is not what this site is about.

THat is my view I will not get in to a flame war, so I will leave it at that.



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 08:35 AM
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1) john do you agree that they will never agree to disclosure until there is total mind control of the whole human population. then they will be able to control every thing going into our brains, and even making sure how we digest that info, even then they can just tell us anything and everyone should just believe it. is this the only way they can ever tell us about aliens?

2) do you think our lifes are decided before we are born, or are we able to make our own decisions in life. i.e is there a destiny?

3) who is higher up in the intelligence service area. is it oni(naval intelligence) or nsa, or are these groups below others. are there groups or agencies higher than these that we have not heard of(i do not mean majestic, as we have heard of these).

4) i remember you saying on coast that while you were speaking about these things you could not get work or jobs etc... what made you go back to talk about these things?

5) with regard to the ufo alien stuff, what do you think is the bit of info that is totaly credible, that cannot be disinfo and absolutely true. what is the main point that you think no one can dispute?

[edit on 12-7-2006 by andy1033]



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 08:38 AM
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Its ok, Im sure Mr. Lear has heard much worse, most likely he'll thank you for your input and wish you a nice day. However you can't deny that you have never been to any of the planets in question. You may think this sounds like an absurd argument, but the poster above me couldnt have put it better. The media has convinced us that everyone in the middle east wants to kill each other when most of the people just want to live in peace. Why, because they know that most americans wont bother to go see for themselves. If they can present an incorrect picture of whats happening on our own planet dont you think they can lie about the other planets as well?



[EDIT]----- John , I think somewher along the line someone decided that you were "talking to much" and decided to feed you some lies, unfortunatly the truth part is just as fantastic as the disinfo and hard to tell the difference. I'm not accusing you of intentionally lieing to us (infact i like the fact that you tell us everything and let us make up our own minds).

[edit on 12-7-2006 by Tiloke]



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 08:43 AM
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And hey - i believe in some crazy stuff - but I prefer my crazy stuff to be at least PARTIALLY DIGESTABLE!


I dont want to derail this thread, but this "crazy stuff" you believe in, was that backed up with 100% solid evidence?
Im guessing not, so whats digestible depends on ones appetite, and what taste's good, so to speak, if you dont like it, post somewhere else.

As far as the quality of the UFO forum, why dont you post something "digestible", i have noticed a few threads where people describe massive events, with no evidence, i dont read them, if it annoys you, maybe you should do the same.?

Anyway back on topic.

Questions for John Lear.



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