Questions for John Lear

Originally posted by shadow fax
i could elaborate, of course, but alas your dutch isnt up to scratch and you cannot seem to find a translator/tool on the web so no use trying to quote all those sources you require.

I, and any person who is not gullible to believe everything requires a link from a reputable site that they can read. I don't see how those are "all those sources". But whatever.

now, while you keep on referring to my refusal to reply to a question it seems there's a little 'pot calling the kettle black' going on, right?

What? Didn't you just say:

quote: Originally posted by shadow fax
I answered your question and even elaborated on it.

And now you are saying that you are refusing to answer me question.

I'm confused now.

And about the monkey thing. Pounding your chest and jumping up and down does not mean you are a monkey, it means you are talking a lot of nonsense. Just like if I told you, you're just kicking around a lot of sand. It doesn't mean you are REALLY kicking around a lot of sand.

Okay?

translated the article for you in babelfish (dutch to english)
which tends to confuse a few things but you might be able
to get enough data out of it for the sake of the conversation:

Americans offered ' aggressive ' patrols above iran
Spent: 7 April 2007 07.33
Last modified: 7 April 2007 07.37

LONDON - the United States have offered the British government action military against iran concerning the arrest of fifteen Navy people. She stalks including for ' aggressively ' to patrol above positions of the Iranian revolutionary garde, communicated The Guardian to daily Saturday.

In the first days the hoogoplopende diplomatic crisis, then teheran loved the jaws stiffly on each other concerning, however, and sickly of the sailors and mariniers, officials of Pentagon offered at several options.

Topgeheim

The exact list is topgeheim, but the offer included according to the British newspaper, which calls no sources, among others fighting planes low concerning military bases in iran shave to let.

The aid however of the hand, American at being. London let washington know that the US would calm down the situation by keeping itself outside the conflict.

At asked the US also a military exercise in the Persian golf, to which forty Navy ships participate, at weaknesses. The previous weeks arrived correctly a second Navy entity in the region. Those the American president had sent Bush to the golf to intensify busy on iran.

THE US and iran have been already aartsrivalen since the Islamic revolution of 1979, where 52 Americans in the embassy in teheran 444 were kept days in gijzeling. The relation has further deteriorated the last years. Washington states that iran tries in secret build nuclear weapons and the Iraqi insurrection supports.

The Americans arrested five Iranian diplomats in Iraq in link with that this spring.

babelfish.altavista.com...

Originally posted by undo
translated the article for you in babelfish (dutch to english)
which tends to confuse a few things but you might be able
to get enough data out of it for the sake of the conversation:

Thank you. I can't say that I am really surprised, but I wanted to see it for myself.

John:

Been following your posts for quite some time now, you are a wealth of information, thanks for sharing!

Wondering if you have any insight or general input into Earth changes and signs that Earth may (or may not) be changing. Personally I don't believe that man-made substances are the cause of any Earth changes that may be occurring. Recently (past few months actually) in the news is the "disappearance of bees" en masse. A few threads here on ATS as well...What do you think?

dear john.
New to this thread and would just like to ask a couple questions.

1. Who is behind hiding all this secret technology? And why bother?
- just for power over the people doesn't seem like a just reason.
2. If their is free energy it would solve all the worlds problem no doubt about it.
so why bother delaying the inevitable?
3. when space tourism starts and it will with in the next 10 years. are they going to debrief the passengers and keep making stupid cover stories.



I'm getting very eager for the truth to come out and the governments admit to their lies. Then hopefully the governments will return to fear its civilians and not the other way around.

Originally posted by thedangler
dear john.
New to this thread and would just like to ask a couple questions.

1. Who is behind hiding all this secret technology? And why bother?
- just for power over the people doesn't seem like a just reason.
2. If their is free energy it would solve all the worlds problem no doubt about it.
so why bother delaying the inevitable?
3. when space tourism starts and it will with in the next 10 years. are they going to debrief the passengers and keep making stupid cover stories.



I'm getting very eager for the truth to come out and the governments admit to their lies. Then hopefully the governments will return to fear its civilians and not the other way around.

The think tank we (john, zorgon, myself, and a few other ats'ers) belong to, discuss this type of thing all the time.

what's the point? well, the point is, there's a few people who want everything, who believe science has proven they deserve everything (you can thank natural selection, survival of the fittest and evolutionary theory for this one, as far as i'm concerned although some of the other think tankers might disagree), and who believe that as a result, if someone must survive with all the toys and all the joys, it might as well be them.

so we at the think tank have started formulating the theory that the Nazis have been hard at work with your space dollars, assuring they and their compadres, are the only ones at the receiving end of all this wonderful interplanetary, interstellar and intergalactic treasure. it doesn't matter to them if their buddies are not nazis, provided the end game is similar or the same. atheists would fit in just as well as confused christians or any variation of religious/non-religious belief system, provided they meet the specs. the specs are the real issue and the deciding factor on whether or not you need to know or ever benefit from their decisions.

as zorgon has pointed out repeatedly, even in their press releases they claim all resources collected at the south polar base will be ISRU (insitu resource utilization). translated this means, sorry buddy, but we're gonna use it up here and you folks down there, well, we have plans to recoup most of the planet in some kind of global armaggedon in which billions of people will be euthanized by airborne virus. they aren't kidding either.

Originally posted by undo

so we at the think tank have started formulating the theory that the Nazis have been hard at work with your space dollars, assuring they and their compadres, are the only ones at the receiving end of all this wonderful interplanetary, interstellar and intergalactic treasure...

as zorgon has pointed out repeatedly, even in their press releases they claim all resources collected at the south polar base will be ISRU (insitu resource utilization). translated this means, sorry buddy, but we're gonna use it up here and you folks down there, well, we have plans to recoup most of the planet in some kind of global armaggedon in which billions of people will be euthanized by airborne virus. they aren't kidding either.

undo,

ok, that's a bombshell.

Where can one check out these neo-Nazi press releases? links?

So then chemtrails are to soften up our lungs and immune systems for the final blow? (Why the push to demonize tobacco, btw? --To cover up atmospheric nuke testing?)

And just how much fun is the after-Armageddon party going to be, when hardly anyone's there to dance with or even to have the satisfaction of not inviting? And who's going to pour their champagne and circulate with the hors d'oeuvres, and clean up after it's over?

I'm being a bit facetious I know, but that's quite a lot to digest, and what I'm really asking is, What is their plan for the day after? How is it better than what they've already got? What's the payoff for ruling a planet of the dead?

[edit on 12-4-2007 by gottago]

Originally posted by undo

as zorgon has pointed out repeatedly, even in their press releases they claim all resources collected at the south polar base will be ISRU (insitu resource utilization). translated this means, sorry buddy, but we're gonna use it up here and you folks down there, well, we have plans to recoup most of the planet in some kind of global armaggedon in which billions of people will be euthanized by airborne virus. they aren't kidding either.

Where do you get this stuff?

I mean, I know you deeply believe in what you're saying...but why?

I know JohnLear has the tendency to believe in anything he reads or hears, no matter how ridiculous. But what about you?

Undo, do we set back like lambs to the slaughter and let what ever happens happen or do we as the human race do anything about it?

Yes I do relize it is hard to get the human race to agree on anything. You already know that if the human race was being attacked by an alien entity from outter space we would most likely rally together to fight for survival.

I do relize there is betrayal amongst us humans at many levels and the only way to even come close to maintaining the human race is to root out the real enemy. We ask the $64,000 question who is the real enemy?

It is hard to find the real enemy especially if they are based on the Moon and protected and hidden on Earth thru many layers. The Less people on Earth the easier it is to control them and to selective breed a new race of beings. Sounds similar to Natzism, and someone is always trying to control and manipulate us. I am sure we have a few friends on the Moon too but the delima is finding them or even communicating with them.

Oh yes, it also is the way of many governments including on the local level to control every aspect of our lives. We can spend your money and control your life better then you can.

We as the human race ask the question if this is going to take place and the elimenation of 2/3 of the population is targeted to take place what is our next move? Set back and watch it happen or make things happen to prevent it from happening for the betterment of humanity. Rik Riley




[edit on 12-4-2007 by rikriley]

I was scheduled to take a commercial flight out of Memphis some time ago to Atlanta to make a connection. I will not name the airline and I arrived for my flight on time and was told there were mechanical issues with the plane and an aircraft mechanics crew was working on the plane to remedy the situation.

So being curious I asked what was specificly wrong with the jet plane and an attendant said they were working on the thruster. We passengers waited for several hours at the terminal gate and after they worked on the engine we then boarded the plane for take off.

We are in line on the taxi runway waiting to take off but as we are ready to take off I get this feeling we are not going to make it down the runway. In other words we would crash. I say to the guy next to me we are not going to make it down the runway and he says be quiet you are scarring the passengers.

The jet engines start to roar and the piolet holds the break on and releases quickly and we proceed down the runway. Now I had just purchased a new eel skin briefcase I put it beneath the seat and grabbed a cushion off the seat next to me and bent over with the cushion protecting my head. The guy next to me said are you crazy and I said this plane will never make it off the ground and if we try we will crash.

Needless to say everyone around me thought I was nuts. I knew we did not have enough thrust to get off the ground just by the feel of the speed of the 2 jet engines. We get half way down the runway and the guy next to me says shut-up your scarring us. Farther and farther we go down the runway the piolet finally puts on the breaks and reversers and you could here those breaks roar. He of course aborts the flight and we use every bit of the runway to stop.

My heart was pounding out of my chest. The piolet proceeds back to terminal. The piolet says ladies and gentleman please stay seated while our maintenace crew works on the problem and make adjustments to the plane.

Everyone is looking at me and they were saying how did you know we were not going to make it, I said I do not know exactly, I just knew.

So I say, Maam to the flight attendent and tell her I want off this plane right now. She says stay seated we will have the problem taken care of shortly. I repeat I want off this plane and I want off this plane right now, please be patient she says to me. I grab my briefcase with important papers I am carrying and head for the doorway down the isle. Please be seated, I say let me off this plane it is not going to make it again.

After a while they let me off the plane, now remember I am the only one to deplane and this of course was way before 911. I go to the agent at the gate and she says just wait here we will have the problem fixed, I said I do not care I will not get on that plane for a million dollars. She says just calm down, and I say I want another flight and she says there is no other flight tonight.

So I proceed to the ticket counter to try to get on another airline's flight to Atlanta but nothing was available. The ticket agent says the only way you will get a flight out of Memphis is to fly out tomorrow. I said fine, but we are not paying for your cab or hotel room for the night, I said I do not care I will walk home before I board that plane.

I had luggage on that plane but I did not care at that point. As I was walking away from the ticket counter the agent called to me and said, could you just wait a minute I asked, for what. She said the rest of the passengers will be deboarding the plane in 15 minutes could you wait. I said only if they put us on another plane. So here they all come off the plane and they are standing around and the two ladies setting behind me were headed for the final distination to Knoxville, Tn. as was I.

I asked them point blank, knowing that we did not make it off the ground the first time and you saw me get off the plane why did you not get off the plane also. We figured it would cost extra to catch another flight and hoped they would fix the problem. Again There was the problem and as they said, we hoped that they would fix the problem and we figured it would cost extra money too change tickets. They were willing to take the chance of dieing the 2nd time around and this time hope was on their side.

I asked again just for my curiosity you mean to tell me you would of road that plane down that runway again knowing what just took place and the answer was, yes. In the mean time they could not fix that plane in time because it had to many problems with the engine. We finally caught another flight out that night and luckily they had a back up plane that had landed and that the airline had to prep before takeoff.

I asked the two ladies why they thought the airline finally deplaned, their answer, they said other then the airline needing to fix the problem with the engine. That I created such a stir amongst the passengers they let us off too.

Here is what I am trying to say we all have been warned in the future that billions of humans on Earth will be wipped out. What are we going to do about it watch it happen and say there is nothing we can do and it is our distiny or are we collectively going to take action and do something about it before it could happen. Are we going to do something as a human race or are we the sheep? Rik Riley







[edit on 12-4-2007 by rikriley]

Testing.

Sorry.

[edit on 12-4-2007 by John Nada]

rikriley that is an interesting story. What do you think we should do about it?

I am in favor of dumping anyone in government associated with any political party and only electing those with no party affiliations to government office.

Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor

I know JohnLear has the tendency to believe in anything he reads or hears, no matter how ridiculous. But what about you?

Now wait just a darn minute here, I resemble that remark!

I'll have you know that I MAKE UP a lot of that ridiculous stuff I believe in!!!!

John that statement is absolutely helarious good to know you have a sense of humor. We all have to be funny sometimes in this world to keep our sanity. We can all sometimes take things to serious and yet be serious when we need to be. Rik Riley

I do not want to get to far off the Moon track but any time you have millions of dollars helping to elect these politicians, an example it is the best Congress and Presidency money can buy. Bought and sold to the highest bidder. That is just the way the system is set up if these politicians were held accountable probably 100 out of 100 would get a failing grade on promises. Do I hear 70% do I hear 50% do I hear 30% do I hear 10% sold to the highest bitter of bull.

I do not have the answers but collectively the human race still has a chance to survive and come out ahead. My Daddy would always say many promises spoken are easily broken. My MaMa would say luv many trust few learn to paddle your own canoe. Well I am still paddeling. Rik Riley

Originally posted by johnlear

I'll have you know that I MAKE UP a lot of that ridiculous stuff I believe in!!!!

I didn't say it

Originally posted by johnlear
I'll have you know that I MAKE UP a lot of that ridiculous stuff I believe in!!!!

Thanks! This quote might be quite useful from time to time !

Regards
yf

Originally posted by johnlear
Now wait just a darn minute here, I resemble that remark!

Yes you do! I see the family resmebleance quit clearly!

I'll have you know that I MAKE UP a lot of that ridiculous stuff I believe in!!!!

Now I feel better! For a while I though you were inventing some of it as you post. It a relief to know that you're a firm believer of what you're posting. There may be hope for you yet!

Tim

Originally posted by Ghost01

Originally posted by johnlear
Now wait just a darn minute here, I resemble that remark!

Yes you do! I see the family resmebleance quit clearly!

Tim

Do you have any idea how dumb that makes you look, Tim?

hint

Funny how how most of the people that are actively trying to prove that JL's posts require proof, yet with this specific statement (about making up a large part of what is put up for discussion), nobody requires proof.. How weak. All that when the remark is so incredibly vague that it doesn't quite say anything. "A lot of.." could still only be 0.5%.



[edit on 13-4-2007 by shadow fax]

Funny how how most of the people that are actively trying to prove that JL's posts require proof, yet with this specific statement (about making up a large part of what is put up for discussion), nobody requires proof.. How weak. All that when the remark is so incredibly vague that it doesn't quite say anything. "A lot of.." could still only be 0.5%.

Lear was making a joke - why are we talking about proof?