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No Sanctions for North Korea

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posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 04:26 AM
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I don't think the United States or any other country should slap a sanction on North Korea. If they do so, they will only be hurting the innocent civilians.

I know that North Korea would never launch a nuke at the United States pre-emptively, so we are pretty much wasting our time with the sanctions. Let North Korea test their missiles all they want, they aren't going to hurt anyone.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 06:54 AM
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Cutting aide will hurt the innocent, however NK dont care about their people otherwise they would heed the warning of the other nations. Letting them test their missiles is a huge mistake. They will eventually get it right and will resort to terroristic values. They have been a rouge nation since the 50s. Their leader cares more about his military power then the prosperity of his nation or people.

This is a country that spends billions on military arsenal and their people are starving. Do we continue to let them starve their people and do saber rattling?

You take the rotten apple out of the barrel before it spoils the rest.

What is NK trying to prove?



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 07:40 AM
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Kicking the junk yard dog when the dragon is in charge

DPRK takes orders from Beijing, if you want to heal mad dog Jong you go through China. With that in mind, China has little interest in containing N. Korea's threats because when it comes down to it, it's all about the race for global dominance between the US and Asia.

The sanctions that would be effective is to cut off Chinese imports and remobilize US manufacturing. Since US consumer addicts have a hard time cutting off their slave labor supply of cheap Asian imports, I doubt you will see this addressed anytime soon.

The real question is how long will Asia keep buying US treasury bonds to support US debtor nation lifestyles?



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 07:44 AM
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Originally posted by Rickey Gerard Perez
I know that North Korea would never launch a nuke at the United States pre-emptively,

Pray tell, how do you come to this solid conclusion? We are talking about the leader of a nation that has repeatedly been compared by professionals, as mentally being that of a 10 year old child. Some day this 10 year old child may have a temper fit, and invoke this action you say he will not.

NN



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 07:47 AM
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For the last time, North Korea is not a Terrorist state. This has nothing to do with Terrorism. Why do you people keep putting these threads in the War on Terrorism forum?



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by Communication_Burger
For the last time, North Korea is not a Terrorist state. This has nothing to do with Terrorism. Why do you people keep putting these threads in the War on Terrorism forum?

Um, tell that to the current adminstration, which has designated NK as a terrorist state, and is part of the "axis of evil".

NN



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by NoNik
Um, tell that to the current adminstration, which has designated NK as a terrorist state, and is part of the "axis of evil".

NN


On what basis, on what basis have they made this designation? North Korea are probably up to no good, I'll give them that, but they most certainly are not a Terrorist state, and I don't give a # what the current American administration sais. I'm perfectly capable of thinking for myself, thank you. If North Koreans are Terrorists because their Military test fired missiles into the Ocean, then what the hell does that make us? Think carefully about that.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 08:25 AM
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For starters two incidents of terrorism against South Korea were widely attributed to North Korea: a 1983 bombing that killed several members of the South Korean government, and the 1987 destruction of a South Korean airliner over the Thailand-Myanmar border.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 08:31 AM
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Will you provide a link to that please. Thanks.

We have in our nation our own American terrorist that had committed crimes against Americans.

Still we are not called a Terrorist Nation.

NK has been tagged Terrorist Nation because the present administration felt that it should be included with Iran and Iraq as Axis of evil before the invasion of Iraq.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by Forlon
For starters two incidents of terrorism against South Korea were widely attributed to North Korea: a 1983 bombing that killed several members of the South Korean government, and the 1987 destruction of a South Korean airliner over the Thailand-Myanmar border.


So it's taken the U.S 20 years to act upon those incidents and declare them a Terrorist state? Give it a rest. I know Bush said the other day things take time in a 'Democratic process,' but this takes the absolute Piss. Talking of Airliners though; What's this all about?

Thanks.

The funny thing about this media festival everyone is having about North Korea at the moment is that NK are said to have already hit Alaska with a test missile years ago, and nobody said a damned thing.

Comedy.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 08:47 AM
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1983 Bombing

en.wikipedia.org...


And the info I stated that is quoted everywhere


www.answers.com...



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 08:49 AM
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Sanctions against N. Korea? What could one possibly do? Isolate them politically? They already are! Stop trade with N. Korea? They don't have significant trade with any other nation (save China)! Stop international travel with N. Korea? They are already self-limited in that area.

Aside from stopping humanitarian food shipments to a starving nation, a sanction that would basically only hurt the starving people of N. Korea, there is really very little that can be done in the area of sanctions.

The only thing that any nation or the international community can possibly do is "dangle carrots" before N. Korea in the hope that they accept "rewards" for coming into line with the rest of the world. Of course, there is one thing left remaining that could possibly bring N. Korea into step.....but that, really, is undesirable and is the last resort. And we all know what that is -- war.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 09:04 AM
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Thanks forlon.

I found the information and yes the people involved confess to be agents from North korea.

This happen 20 years ago, taking into consideration that here in the US we have our own brand of Americans attempt to kill presidents still we are not called a Terrorist nation.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 09:08 AM
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Originally posted by Forlon
1983 Bombing

en.wikipedia.org...


From your source:


They admitted they had been sent to kill President Chun, and links to Kim Jong-il of the DPRK (North Korea) were suspected.No direct evidence has emerged to link Kim or the DPRK to the bombings.


No direct evidence.


Originally posted by Forlon
And the info I stated that is quoted everywhere


www.answers.com...


No direct evidence.

I could write a 2,000 page book filled with direct evidence of British, American, Israeli, and probably even Australian involvement in Terrorism, and its funding, if I had the time. How can the pot call the kettle black when the pot is the blackest thing on the Planet?

This thing with North Korea right now is an absolute joke, but it's not funny.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by Communication_Burger

Originally posted by NoNik
Um, tell that to the current adminstration ..... snip ......


On what basis, on what basis have they made this designation? North Korea are probably up to no good, I'll give them that, but they most certainly are not a Terrorist state, and I don't give a # what the current American administration sais. I'm perfectly capable of thinking for myself, thank you. If North Koreans are Terrorists because their Military test fired missiles into the Ocean, then what the hell does that make us? Think carefully about that.

Dude, take a Valium or 13. "I" didn't say they are a terrorist nation, I said the current admin says they are.

I'm an American, the current goverment doesn't represent me or my thought.

NN



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by marg6043
I found the information and yes the people involved confess to be agents from North korea.


Where does it say that?



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by NoNik
Dude, take a Valium or 13. "I" didn't say they are a terrorist nation, I said the current admin says they are.


I don't have any Valium, and I haven't once said, anywhere, that "You" said they were a Terrorist Nation. Read it.



Originally posted by NoNik
I'm an American, the current goverment doesn't represent me or my thought.

NN


Jolly good. I still stand by my initial statement in this thread; This is not a War on Terrorism topic. I'm glad you agree with me.

Good bye.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by Communication_Burger

Where does it say that?


While I question the interrogation methods that perhaps were used and the information gathered . . . still SK claims that the people taken from both attacks link themselves to NK and their leader directly.

I take it with a grain of salt.

Still for nearly five decades NKoreans has never been linked to any terrorist groups or has they done any terrorist attacks that can be proven.



A North Korean agent, Kim Hyon Hui, confessed to planting a bomb in the case of the second, saying the operation was ordered by Kim Jong-il personally.


This is from your source.



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