So explain this one to me....(pentagon thread)

I wouldnt say that I dont believe in the 9/11 conspiracy theories only that I dont believe in the Pentagon theory. Before I get to the point of my thread I would like to say that I find it utterly amazing when i come on here and read things from people who think they know exactly what happened in washington that day even though they were never there. Now saying that, I made this thread to tell you all that my brother was there that day and WATCHED the airplane hit the pentagon. My brother was in Arlington National Cemetary on the morning of 9/11 and he was at an area where he had a clear view of the pentagon. He told me he watched the plane bank down and then watched as it slammed into the far side of the pentagon. It wasnt a missile, a drone, or anything else, it was a plane. I find it astonishing that my own brother can tell me what he saw that day yet I come on here and still find people who are trying with all their might to explaing away the plane and say that there was something else that hit the pentagon. So explain that to me, please.

Holograms of course!

lol, jk


I also know people who saw it hit. I just heard it (as I wasn't by a window - there's really not a good view anyway...)
Doesn't matter though. You can have as many eyewitnesses to an event as you want but people will still be skeptical. It's human nature. All you can do is shrug and continue on...

The only people who can come here and say anything about whether or not it was a plane that hit the Pentagon are eye-witnesses, they were there, they experienced it and felt it.

The rest of us can sit back and ''debunk'', but it's never going to get anywhere.

Arlington National Cemetary you say.. no way he was close enough to IDENTIFY what kind of plane it was then. Besides, what your brother saw doesn't come close to what others witnessed and testified about, so what makes him so special? I love when people come on here saying "Oh yeah, my friend was there and he saw the plane, you guys are idiots". You're also stupid to to say "I find it astonishing that my own brother can tell me what he saw that day yet I come on here and still find people who are trying with all their might to explaing away the plane" when we didn't all have brothers or sisters or 2nd aunts on our mothers side who were there to see a plane like your brother. Also, he can't say for sure it wasn't a drone being that far away from the crash, since a drone would look like a plane as well. Now, if it was a Boeing 757, then the only possiblity I can come up with about how it was able to crash into a 5-story building is via remote control or some kind of homing beacon. Nothing about that day adds up at any of the 4 places a plane crashed, and the Pentagon crash is probably the most baffling out of all those instances.

.....ive been to arlington national cemetary myself, 2 years after 9/11 and I can tell you that if it was a 757 then he would have definetly been able to tell the difference between that and a "drone". They fly right near the cemetary on a constant basis and its pretty easy to tell difference between a 757 engine and that of a missile. You really need to stop thinking things are more extraordinary then they really are. The world really is as boring as it seems and these people called "terrorists" actaully do exist.



[edit on 30-6-2006 by Truth_is_undeniable]

Broken, what in the world are you talking about?

The pentagon is almost on Arlington National Cemetary grounds....

Until the FBI releases the tapes from the gas station and shows us what hit the pentagon, nobody's brother can convince me that the official story is anything other than propaganda and BS.

Ask any law enforcement person and they will tell you that "eyewitnesses" are some of the most unreliable sources of information there are.

I'm convinced the truth will come out eventually and the official story won't have any resemblance to what actually happened.

Originally posted by Truth_is_undeniable
The world really is as boring as it seems and these people called "terrorists" actaully do exist.

Yes they do...They're called governments.

So we're supposed to just believe you? Your post is supposed to make all the evidence that it wasn't a 757 flown by Arabs just go away?

Trust me you wouldn't be the first to come here and post lies...
You need to back up your story with more than just words, otherwise your 'proof' means absolutely nothing...

Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
Broken, what in the world are you talking about?

The pentagon is almost on Arlington National Cemetary grounds....

I know exactly where Arlington National Cemetary is, and stand by my comment that his brother wouldn't be able to make out conclusively that the plane was a 757 and not a drone. You're assuming he was in that section close to the Pentagon too, Arlington Nation Cemetary is HUGE, he coulda been a thousand yards from where the Pentagon was.

What your brother saw will never sway the opinions of some individuals on this forum, no matter what you try and do, their views are concrete.

I'm sitting on the fence with the whole 9/11 thing, I can understand what the US government gained from the attack, but I still can't see why they would do such a thing, why anyone would do such a thing. But they do, so I accept that and keep looking at all the evidence.

I don't doubt what your brother saw, I'm sure he wouldn't lie about it and neither would you, but I'm only one person.

Originally posted by BrokenVisage
I know exactly where Arlington National Cemetary is, and stand by my comment that his brother wouldn't be able to make out conclusively that the plane was a 757 and not a drone. You're assuming he was in that section close to the Pentagon too, Arlington Nation Cemetary is HUGE, he coulda been a thousand yards from where the Pentagon was.

lol, no
YOU'RE assuming he was far. He could have been right across the street. What evidence do you have that he was lying? Just because you don't want to believe it doesn't mean it isn't true.

ANOK:

So we're supposed to just believe you? Your post is supposed to make all the evidence that it wasn't a 757 flown by Arabs just go away?

Where is this evidence?
Seriously.


Whaaa:

Ask any law enforcement person and they will tell you that "eyewitnesses" are some of the most unreliable sources of information there are.

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Outside of DNA evidence, eyewitnesses are what investigators rely on the most for clues and information.
In this case we have eyewitnesses in the Air Trafic Control center, we have eyewitnesses above, below, and ON the plane.
So far the only thing that conspiracy theorists have are websites made by people who are anti-government living in California somewhere.