Need people who disagree with NWO stuff (research)

I need some people who think the whole idea of a one world dictatorship is stupid, i look at sites and they all have proof that there is one forming, specially in the U.S..
The reason for this is i went to find some pages on some topics like " project megiddo" and some stuff people like Alex Jones say was in the newspapers, but it was not there to be found.
Some stuff where though, i think Alex is right about a lot of stuff, but i still wanna know the truth.
PLEASE somebody give some insite into your point of view into this, preferably people who think we are all wackjobs

Also: BACKUP YOUR CLAIMES WITH EVIDANCE!!!!!!!!!
nothing like: yeah thats all BS and this is BS and that is BS, if it is, show me why.



[edit on 30-6-2006 by Patronas]

After years of denying and ridiculing such charges, David Rockefeller has finally put an end to the speculation, making the following admission in Memoirs:
For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.

www.nexusmagazine.com...

How can you expect people to disprove what is openly admitted to be true.

Don't expect any help here.

Go to a sheeple forum if thats what you want, but how do you prove a negative when the positive is looking you right in the eye?

Patronas, I think you need to be more specific to have any good effect.


The NWO originally meant a socialist global dictatorship. Many peopel that say they beleive that there is an NWO conspiracy don't beleive that. Others say that its a fascist global dictatorship, some people that beleive there will be a NWO don't beleive that particular formulation

Some people that beleive there is a NWO Conspiracy don't even beleive that it will be in the form of a global government, let along a totalitarian global dictatorship.

So you need to be more specific, I think. You said that there is a lot of evidence, please cite what you think it the best evidence that there is a NWO, and please in doing so explain what you beleive the NWO is.

First of all, i know it is openly admittit that they want to do it.
I know there is one forming, i just don't know WHAT it is, there is all kinds of stuff circling the internet and i want to know what i can trust and what not.
alex Jones for example has lots and lots of proof on the subject, but some things he says can't be backed up.
I just wondered if anybody on this site wants to comment on that fact.
I mean, our goverment has just fallen(AGAIN) ( dutch goverment btw), some people might say the illuminati or NWO or bilderbergers or whatever somebody wants to call it is responsible, frankly i wouldn't even doubt that somebody will clame it eventually, but they will have no proof whatsoever and i'm really getting sick of people claiming something without backing it up, from both sides.

I know there is something major going on starting with the U.S., but it is moving rapidly to Europe, and frankly i really want to know more if it happens here, but i wan't to know things i can trust, not something somebody claims.

Who can we trust??
the media is controlled by them, internet is full of crap.
Somebody please just give me stuff i can trust, thats why i created this topic, to hear from people who think the NWO is a good thing and why they think it, or people who see nothing wrong, or people who don't beleave there is gonna be one.

But like i said, i do beleave in a NWO, and I do beleave that it's not gonna be a verry pretty site.

Also, i found somewhere that persephone was on the top of the US capitol building in washington DC, could somebody verrify that fact and put some clear pictures on here??

Persephone is not on the US Capitol building, the statue atop that building not only bears no resemblence to persephone or her traditional attributes, but it is infact a statue in native american regalia, and is supposed to reprsent liberty or freedom or somesuch.
akaka.senate.gov...

aah, looks a lot like persephone, think thats why they said it
But this is a perfect example of false or mistaken information.
Now you get my reason for this topic or at least i hope you can

Originally posted by Patronas
aah, looks a lot like persephone, think thats why they said it

But this is a perfect example of false or mistaken information.
Now you get my reason for this topic

or at least i hope you can

Problem is, Patronas, that you don't know which is the false information. Like whether the statue is truly a tricked out Indian maiden or Persophone whoever that is!

One says this, and it sounds good and another says that and it sounds good. So how's a boy or girl to know?

Still, Pilate asked "What is truth"?, when the question should have been "What is THE Truth?" He made that mistake with the Truth standing in human form right before him.

You're doing the right thing to search for the truth, soldier on, Patronas.

lol, tnq, and idd that's why i want people who think there is nothing wrong with a NWO or that none will come to power, maybe they have some stuff.

Btw: persephone is the god of the underworld from ehm...think it was greece, don;t know for sure, but i remember reading somewhere in a schoolbook orsomething that it is supposed to be maria statue or something

[edit on 1-7-2006 by Patronas]

I beleive a one world government is an inevitability and a step in our progression as a species. As we become more and more connected all around the world for example the internet was part of this step. We will eventually have to as part of our evolution into a newer more technologically advance species.

Originally posted by Patronas
I need some people who think the whole idea of a one world dictatorship is stupid, i look at sites and they all have proof that there is one forming, specially in the U.S..
The reason for this is i went to find some pages on some topics like " project megiddo" and some stuff people like Alex Jones say was in the newspapers, but it was not there to be found.
Some stuff where though, i think Alex is right about a lot of stuff, but i still wanna know the truth.
[edit on 30-6-2006 by Patronas]

Uh I thought this site was about discussing conspiracy theories and that outside of the 'norm?' Mind you the way that debunkers and possible agents have taken up permanent and dug in positions here I gotta wonder some days...

There is likely to be everything that you seek here if you search but myself being in this 'game' now for some time I have yet to see any of the debunkers slamdunk' any of us other than their 'societal power' to silence people.