Holographs Used for Pentagon Plane

Dont bring up the engine parts... they never even matched up with a Boeing 757... they were not even relativly close... such as the 3 foot engine found... which actually belonged to a military plane

It wasn't a three foot engine. It was a 3 foot engine PART. There are NO three foot engines. It's not possible for anything RESEMBLING a real missile/UAV/plane. On a remote control plane sure, but not a REAL one.

Originally posted by mck3114
Listen to this... this is unbelieveable until you hear it. In September of 2000 the United States Department of Defense created the most advance system of Holographs, which to the human mind could make a image seem 100% real!

Hi mck3114, where did you hear this?

Do you have any links at all?

Originally posted by mck3114
Dont bring up the engine parts... they never even matched up with a Boeing 757... they were not even relativly close... such as the 3 foot engine found... which actually belonged to a military plane

Are you aware that large portion of engine nacelle is empty air with compressor blades here-and-there and that the engine itself is relatively small in size? Not to mention the parts went well enough along with the Rolls-Royce engines this particular 757 carried...

This idea may not be as crazy as it might sound:

5.6 Airborne Holographic Projector

The holographic projector displays a three-dimensional visual image in a desired location, removed from the display generator. The projector can be used for psychological operations and strategic perception management. It is also useful for optical deception and cloaking, providing a momentary distraction when engaging an unsophisticated adversary.
www.au.af.mil...

"Her brother, Wheelhouse, of Virginia Beach, spotted the planes first. The second plane looked similar to a C- 130 transport plane, he said. He believes it flew directly above the American Airlines jet, as if to prevent two planes from appearing on radar while at the same time guiding the jet toward the Pentagon.

Another Hampton Roads native says she saw a second plane in the air over the Pentagon as a hijacked jet plunged into the five-sided military fortress Tuesday.
Kelly Knowles, a First Colonial High School alumnus who now lives in an apartment a few miles from the Pentagon, said some sort of plane followed the doomed American Airlines jet toward the Pentagon, then veered away after the explosion.

"Thank God somebody else saw that. There was most definitely a second plane," Knowles said. "It's so frustrating because nobody knows about the second plane, or if they do they're hiding it for some reason."

FBI spokesmen say they have not heard about it, although both Knowles and Keith Wheelhouse, the Virginia Beach man, were interviewed by FBI agents. A Pentagon official said late Friday no other plane was flying with the jetliner. But he said it was possible a military plane was in the area at the time of the attack.

Planes never pass over her Fairfax County apartment, she said, so when a low-flying, high-speed plane buzzed the high-rise, she jumped up, ran to the windows and saw the rear of a jet heading toward Washington, D.C. A few seconds later, a second plane that seemed to be chasing the first passed over at a slightly different angle, she said.

Lt. Col. Steve O'Brien started his day at the controls of a Minnesota National Guard C-130 cargo plane... About 9:30 a.m., O'Brien throttled the lumbering plane down a runway at Andrews Air Force Base, just southeast of the District of Columbia.

O'Brien reported that the plane was either a 757 or 767 and its silver fuselage meant it was probably an American Airlines jet. "They told us to turn and follow that aircraft - in 20-plus years of flying, I've never been asked to do something like that. With all of the East Coast haze, I had a hard time picking him out.

O'Brien asked the controller whether he should set up a low orbit around the building but was told to get out of the area as quickly as possible. "I took the plane once through the plume of smoke and thought if this was a terrorist attack, it probably wasn't a good idea to be flying through that plume."

"It completely disappeared into the Pentagon."


I watched the entire airplane go into the building. I was personally shook by whatever percussion, and not hit, and the fireball from my angle wasn’t as dramatic as I have subsequently seen on the file tape.
I got to the building. Remarkably, there was no debris from the airplane


"I knew it was a crash site before we got there, and I didn’t know what it was going to look like. I couldn’t imagine because the building is like rock solid. I expected to see the airplane, so I guess my initial impression was, “Where’s the plane? How come there’s not a plane?” I would have thought the building would have stopped it and somehow we would have seen something like part of, or half of the plane, or the lower part, or the back of the plane. So it was just a real surprise that the plane wasn’t there."


There was no huge explosion, no huge rumbling on ground, it just went ‘pfff.’ It wasn’t what I would have expected for a plane that was not much more than a football field away from me.


Then, he said, he saw the Pentagon "envelope" the plane and bright orange flames shoot out the back of the building.


And then the plane crashed. My mind could not comprehend what had happened. Where did the plane go? For some reason I expected it to bounce off the Pentagon wall in pieces. But there was no plane visible, only huge billows of smoke and torrents of fire.


And then I was in awe that I saw no plane, nothing left from the plane. It was like
it disintegrated as it went into the building.


"But when I looked at the site, www.gomemphis.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">my brain could not resolve the fact that it was a plane because it only seemed like a small hole in the building," he said. "No tail. No wings. No nothing."


The plane seemed to be floating as if it were a paper glider and I watched in horror as it gently rocked and slowly glided straight into the Pentagon. At the point where the fuselage hit the wall, it seemed to simply melt into the building.
At that point, the wings disappeared into the Pentagon. And then I saw an explosion and watched the tail of the plane slip into the building.

What do the quotes prove except the ANG C-130 saw the jet crash into the Pentagon and that the witnesses (unfamilliar with plane crashes I suppose) were surprised how did it really look like?

Originally posted by tuccy
What do the quotes prove except the ANG C-130 saw the jet crash into the Pentagon and that the witnesses (unfamilliar with plane crashes I suppose) were surprised how did it really look like?

"Her brother, Wheelhouse, of Virginia Beach, spotted the planes first. The second plane looked similar to a C- 130 transport plane, he said. He believes it flew directly above the American Airlines jet, as if to prevent two planes from appearing on radar while at the same time guiding the jet toward the Pentagon.

It completely disappeared into the Pentagon

I watched the entire airplane go into the building Remarkably, there was no debris from the airplane

I would have thought the building would have stopped it and somehow we would have seen something like part of, or half of the plane, or the lower part, or the back of the plane. So it was just a real surprise that the plane wasn’t there

he saw the Pentagon "envelope" the plane and bright orange flames shoot out the back of the building.

there was no plane visible[/url], only huge billows of smoke and torrents of fire.

I saw no plane, nothing left from the plane.It was like
it disintegrated as it went into the building

it seemed to simply melt into the building

I cut these excerpts from the quote above.

I do not see how any of these quotes help prove a plane did not strike the Pentagon.

Any one of these quotes could be applied to the planes that struck the WTC towers.

Are we going to start saying that planes did not strike the WTC towers also?

Oh, this one is RICH.

First it was a missile disguised as a plane. Then it was a secret plane loaded with explosives. Now its friggin HOLOGRAMS????????????????

Oh my god. The no plane crowd keeps comming up with dumber and dumber theories the more they realize their missle hitting the pentagon story keeps sinking.



Its crap like this that REALLY irritates me. All the hard work researchers are doing using LEGIT information and research to show that 9/11 was a conspiracy, and then someone comes up with crap like this. No wonder serious 9/11 conspiracy theorists cant seem to get any respectability despite the mountain of evidence.

Originally posted by diggs

Originally posted by tuccy
What do the quotes prove except the ANG C-130 saw the jet crash into the Pentagon and that the witnesses (unfamilliar with plane crashes I suppose) were surprised how did it really look like?

"Her brother, Wheelhouse, of Virginia Beach, spotted the planes first. The second plane looked similar to a C- 130 transport plane, he said. He believes it flew directly above the American Airlines jet, as if to prevent two planes from appearing on radar while at the same time guiding the jet toward the Pentagon.

Then explain the fact that the C-130 was seen by air traffic controllers on radar from Andrews to the Pentagon and beyond. And was TALKED TO by air traffic controllers. So he BELIEVES that's what happened. How is his BELIEF proof of anything?

No ones saying a missle didnt hit the pentagon.... its just wierd how people say the plane just dissapeared... and if you do know your plan crashes you would know there would be pieces left... not 5 seperate pieces that somehow are the main pieces.. and the spokesman from roylces royce even said that is not a piece of their engine he has ever seen... and also if you know plane crashes so well.. you would know it would take so much skill... to fly a plane inches from the ground... without even grazing the grass... how did the terrorist do that when the pilot had trouble controlling a small sesna plane?

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Oh, this one is RICH.

First it was a missile disguised as a plane. Then it was a secret plane loaded with explosives. Now its friggin HOLOGRAMS????????????????

Oh my god. The no plane crowd keeps comming up with dumber and dumber theories the more they realize their missle hitting the pentagon story keeps sinking.

Its crap like this that REALLY irritates me. All the hard work researchers are doing using LEGIT information and research to show that 9/11 was a conspiracy, and then someone comes up with crap like this. No wonder serious 9/11 conspiracy theorists cant seem to get any respectability despite the mountain of evidence.

ok well if this is all crap... I want to hear your full explanation of what happend that day... explain to me these topics
1. How a plane crashes into the pentagon but does not leave wing, engine, or tail marks

2. How the plane just dissapeared after hitting the pentagon.

3. How there was very few debris of this plane...

4. what that large box was that cia agents were carrying away under the tarp..

5. and last why were they able to identify 184 out 189 passengers but not identify where the plane is

Originally posted by mck3114
If you dont believe me abotu the hologram and your too intrigued in the wtc... look it up online... there is stuff about the wtc and holograms with that... many people know about what the govt. created. And many of ythem think they used it that day.

OK what the hell, i'll take the bait...can you provide any links that show how these holograms are created in air?

Cheers

Originally posted by mck3114
Listen to this... this is unbelieveable until you hear it. In September of 2000 the United States Department of Defense created the most advance system of Holographs, which to the human mind could make a image seem 100% real! They had planned to use this as a defense weapon to decieve any enemies. But take a minute to think about this... now I won't be like some people on this site who make up bogus remarks saying they were there that day or there friend who works for the government. The impact at the pentagon, witnesses said they saw a jumbo plane... strike the pentagon... which i can believe.... but they said it seemed as if it was a illusion when it hit.. like it dissapeared.. poof... gone... no debris of a plane was seen flying in the air... they said it kind of was like a "HOLOGRAPH"!? wierd isnt it? I truly think in all of my opinion that the government used a holograph to cover up the missile or w/e hit the pentagon.. when someone asked bush about this... he had them removed from the press room with no comment. What do you think about this?



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No it wasn't holographs...

It was swamp gas refracting the light from venus.

And if it wasn't swamp gas then it was just really big birds pissed off about how we treat the enviornment.

Wait no, I know now. Every september 11th the reptillian president bush transforms....

Wow.... when you can answer stuff in a non pussy way then you can come back

Originally posted by mck3114

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Oh, this one is RICH.

First it was a missile disguised as a plane. Then it was a secret plane loaded with explosives. Now its friggin HOLOGRAMS????????????????

Oh my god. The no plane crowd keeps comming up with dumber and dumber theories the more they realize their missle hitting the pentagon story keeps sinking.

Its crap like this that REALLY irritates me. All the hard work researchers are doing using LEGIT information and research to show that 9/11 was a conspiracy, and then someone comes up with crap like this. No wonder serious 9/11 conspiracy theorists cant seem to get any respectability despite the mountain of evidence.

ok well if this is all crap... I want to hear your full explanation of what happend that day... explain to me these topics
1. How a plane crashes into the pentagon but does not leave wing, engine, or tail marks

2. How the plane just dissapeared after hitting the pentagon.

3. How there was very few debris of this plane...

4. what that large box was that cia agents were carrying away under the tarp..

5. and last why were they able to identify 184 out 189 passengers but not identify where the plane is

1. Run into a reenforced concrete wall at 300 mph. We'll see if there is any of you left other then a splat. throw in jet fuel burning at a high temp again We'll see if there is anything left. A plane esp a passenger plane is made from ALUMINUM not exactly made to go through a brick wall and it burn very easily...

2. It dissintegrated. See #1

3 Again see #2.

4. MAybe that was the blackbox

5. Because you can look at a passenger manifest and find out who people are.

Originally posted by mck3114
Wow.... when you can answer stuff in a non pussy way then you can come back

NO sense of humor I see...

wow well i hope you do know that titanium cannot be incinerated by jet fuel or the heat of the fire that was from the pentagon.... and i am sure the black box was 5ft by 10 ft big

Originally posted by mck3114

Originally posted by American Madman

Originally posted by mck3114

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Oh, this one is RICH.

First it was a missile disguised as a plane. Then it was a secret plane loaded with explosives. Now its friggin HOLOGRAMS????????????????

Oh my god. The no plane crowd keeps comming up with dumber and dumber theories the more they realize their missle hitting the pentagon story keeps sinking.

Its crap like this that REALLY irritates me. All the hard work researchers are doing using LEGIT information and research to show that 9/11 was a conspiracy, and then someone comes up with crap like this. No wonder serious 9/11 conspiracy theorists cant seem to get any respectability despite the mountain of evidence.

ok well if this is all crap... I want to hear your full explanation of what happend that day... explain to me these topics
1. How a plane crashes into the pentagon but does not leave wing, engine, or tail marks

2. How the plane just dissapeared after hitting the pentagon.

3. How there was very few debris of this plane...

4. what that large box was that cia agents were carrying away under the tarp..

5. and last why were they able to identify 184 out 189 passengers but not identify where the plane is

1. Run into a reenforced concrete wall at 300 mph. We'll see if there is any of you left other then a splat. throw in jet fuel burning at a high temp again We'll see if there is anything left. A plane esp a passenger plane is made from ALUMINUM not exactly made to go through a brick wall and it burn very easily...

2. It dissintegrated. See #1

3 Again see #2.

4. MAybe that was the blackbox

5. Because you can look at a passenger manifest and find out who people are.

wow well i hope you do know that titanium cannot be incinerated by jet fuel or the heat of the fire that was from the pentagon.... and i am sure the black box was 5ft by 10 ft big

Where did the titanium come from? Who said anything about a 5' x 10' box? I'm not sure titanium is used in passenger planes considering the cost. What parts would it be used for? Maybe engine blades...?

The engines are made of titanium and way 6 tons each. Yet they could not find one of the engines at the site... the only engine they found was a 3 ft rotor that was of a different plane. And the box i was talking about being that size was in reference to you saying that the box the cia was carrying away from the site in tarps