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Originally posted by fulcanelli
Christophera,
Thank you for your comment, and I am in complete agreement with you on every level.
I also feel that in addition to the empowerment of us all finally as a true movement, this could finally forever dispel the efforts of some here to derail reasoned discussion of critical events like 9/11 and 7/7 into fruitlessness (whether motivated by their own genuinely opposing viewpoints or, as I suspect with some regret, as part of the likely machinations of intelligence agencies and private interests to obfuscate the truth and prevent its revelations through discussion here) - ultimately such people would think very carefully before posting their often misleading, circular and spurious arguments if it was required of everyone to identify themselves.
It all rests on the question if you have the strength of your convictions. You clearly have, and are to be saluted for it. I do too. My name is Miran Ahmed. Nice to meet you, Christopher.
originally posted by TrueAmerican
You make an interesting point about privacy being an illusion. And I have a simple reply: Just go join any one of the existing 9/11 movements, petitions, and groups that exist, non-anonymously. This is just one site. I might point out that people like Alex Jones, Charlie Sheen, Stephen Jones, Jimmy Walters and many many more are all doing what they are doing with their real names- demanding answers to many of the 9/11 questions all the anonymous people are asking. And gaining every bit of respect of mine, at least, for having the balls to do so, to the government's face, and without reserve.
originally posted by TrueAmerican
So is anonymity an impediment to our cause? Well, I think that statement needs to be put under some scrutiny in itself, prior to answering: First of all, by you stating "our cause," I think it would help if you clearly identified what that cause is, specifically, regarding 9/11, that you seek to pursue. And frankly, if at this point anyone could produce some solid evidence against the perpetrator of 9/11, including the government itself, this "cause" would have already been more clearly defined- as in- send all the bastards to lethal injection executions, imo.
originally posted by fulcanelli
In an idle moment today I found myself wondering, as I often do in such moments, if there is any way that we can intelligently, as a community of persons who collectively are of the persuasion that the infrastructure of our society is being cynically manipulated by small cabals of powerful individuals in order to consolidate their power, make use of that same infrastructure in our own cause against these individuals? (those of us here who hold those views, anyway)
My idea stems from the fact that ATS is such a HUGE, heterogeneous and information-rich community, and it concerns and is aimed particularly at the contingent of ATS members who live in the UK and US (purely because the situations within those countries are the ones I am most familiar with in this context) who share the opinion I have expressed in the first paragraph and believe they have the strength of their convictions to participate in an organized effort against those we collectively determine require removal from positions of influence in our world.
To the reader with antagonistic views, please understand I am simply presenting an idea for discussion and am not interested in proving the above or any other assertion. I am satisfied that I have proven through my own education what I need to myself in order to justifiably hold the views that I hold, and am simply interested in the input of like-minded individuals here on a thought experiment in organized resistance.
originally posted by fulcanelli
I am simply presenting an idea for discussion and am not interested in proving the above or any other assertion. I am satisfied that I have proven through my own education what I need to myself in order to justifiably hold the views that I hold, and am simply interested in the input of like-minded individuals here on a thought experiment in organized resistance.
originally posted by TrueAmerican
The government's silence on the key issues is not only deafening, but it is damning, and causes only further suspicion of its possible complicity in 9/11. How much hell has to be raised before the government realizes the hot seat it is in and comes forward with some legitimate and verifiable information that answers the tough questions and secures their innocence? They will not be able to hide behind the veil of "national security" for much longer, imo. In the past and in previous administrations, if this much heat was turned upon them, from their own people, something would have gotten done already. Questions would have been answered. But in this administration, we are basically being ignored
Originally posted by fulcanelli
Wow, I've just read through your proposition and I must say, I'm extremely impressed
The explanation is necessarily complex, and to be totally honest, although you humbly mention that there will inevitably be problems with implementing your proposal, I personally lack the technical ability in this sphere to adequately assess them myself; to me it appears you have hit upon an extremely practicable and eminently original method to radically tighten up the validity and veracity of discussion and make it far more relevant and focussed, at a time where such a revolution is critically necessary in forums such as these, in order to protect rational discussion from deliberate derailment as much as for any other reason.
Again, I congratulate you on your insight, and I've bookmarked the page so I can study and think on your proposal in more depth (it's around 2am here and the "robot needs sleep", to coin one of Timothy Leary's mantras!).
Truly, I had my doubts about posting this, but if your response and relevant expertise is any indication of what is to be expected on this thread, I'll retire tonight with a great big smile on my face in anticipation of the replies I'll read over my breakfast tomorrow.
Originally posted by bsbray11
I would also have some serious plans to gtfo of my house or whatever in the case of a REX 84 going live, or any variation thereof. Double-edged sword is about right.
Originally posted by AGENT_T
WOW Vulcan eddie...
You must have cyborg fingers to type so much in your posts