Martians

Then why haven't the Military and the Politicians authorized the use of this vastly superior technology to ... say ... win the war on terror?

Neither the majority of our military nor our politicians are part of the secret government. The war on terror is a fictitious war to collapse the economy of the U.S.
and take many of our personal rights away.

Solve the population problem?

The population is being solved. Should be about 10% of what it is today by 2060.

Deal with global warming?

Global warming is a scam. The idea was put there for just another thing for us to worry about.

Bring back Jesus, Bhudah, Mohammad for all the believers?

All of the 'holy' men were myths. There is no credible evidence that any one of them ever existed.

Create a crytal palace for G. Dubyah Bush in orbit?

If you think Bush is your probelm then you are just another part of the problem.

But thanks for the post.




Get real.

If there is a governmental body that can go to other planets via space travel
it probably wont be the government that Bush controls...

President Bush is a front man. He knows very little.

NWO, Intellegence underground, Shadow government, take your pick...
They would be a group interconnected with several countries, with no one to be responsible towards a "disclosure" to any citizens, other than the citizens of the world, and I just dont think some group in possession of that power is going to be that generous..

Say what?

If the "opinions" that you offer have no truth to them, how / why are you still around?

I assume you mean if they 'have truth' to them. Getting rid of me would only add substance to what I am saying. Ask anybody who knew Phil Schneider.

I'm glad that you're still around.

Me too.

I look forward to learning more about you / from you.

Thanks.

I look forward to hearing more from you on this subject and others....any other site, books etc that you could turn me on to ?

The best thread I have ever read on this subject and one I believe to be true on every aspect was the one "Sleeper" started on ATS and is now closed. The name of the thread was "Are Extraterrestrials Real? As Real as The Nose On Your Face." This thread was more informative, has more 'real information' than any book, article, magazine or site I've ever read or seen.
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To be honest, John Lear, I do not doubt your sincerity when you state things. Nor do I doubt you have been told these things by people in the government when you were working with them.

But my own opinion is that I think some of the things you were told by people were BS, and those who told you the stuff were either having a laugh at your expense, or hoped you would spread the word as an unwitting disinformation agent. Not that you are spreading disinfo deliberately.

I just think some people have lied to you. Thats my opinion. Take it for what its worth.

I do, however, think you have been given legit info mixed in there with the BS, and thus, I do like reading some of the stuff you post.

I'm not quite sure where to go from here.
I really wanted to stay out of this, but I just can't help myself.
johnlear, I was wondering, where did you make these contacts?
How did you become aware that they worked for the shadow gov't?
How many contacts do you have?
What departments do they work for?
(because it is rumored that the shadow gov't is ridiculously departmentalized)
Why did any of them confide in you?
(no disrespect intended)
Do you work for the gov't?
In which department?
How did you become privy to any of this information?
Opinions aside, how much of this do you know is truly fact?
(again, no disrespect)
If they did want to take you out, couldn't they just make it look like an accident?
Do you personally know of any aliens?
At the top of the pyramid, are those in charge even human?
(I've just got to ask that last question, it just seemed right)

Just to clarify, I'm not doubting you, nor am I justifying anything you previously discussed.
Also, I'm asking in all sincerity, I'm not trying to pick a fight or ridicule you or anything.
Just call me a curious monkey.

Mr Lear,

your reputation precedes you and I have enormous respect... but I'd like to put a question that rephrases a point already made, in a way.

How often does the possibility cross your mind that you are being fed disinfo? For example, it seems to me that the MAJIC documents served a couple of purposes.

They allowed a swell of publicity to be followed by the easy denial due to the strange signature aspect.

Then it seemed that some sort of MAJIC committee did in fact exist, but by then it was difficult to tell what was real and what was disinfo: the waters had been effectively muddied.

So how much, I suppose I'm asking, do you scrutinise each new piece of information from your contacts to see if it's intended to do the same? I don't know how many contacts you have, but you must perhaps admit the possibility that, for example, one or another of them may be being fed disinfo themselves so that leaks can be tracked?

I ask only as someone who tries to be open-minded yet is aware that there is so much going on of which I (we) know nothing.

And thank you for putting me on to that "real as the nose on your face" thread. I never looked at it - I think the title put me off - and I'm very glad I have, although I've only looked at the first few pages.

wait how do we know this is john lear posting on this board?

I may be a tad lost, but how do we know this is the "real" John Lear and not someone using the name, at our laughingstock expense ?

Just wondering,
Lex

Originally posted by Lexion
I may be a tad lost, but how do we know this is the "real" John Lear and not someone using the name, at our laughingstock expense ?

Just wondering,
Lex

I was thinking exactly the same thing. Is there any way that we can verify if this is really him?

Originally posted by Lexion
I may be a tad lost, but how do we know this is the "real" John Lear and not someone using the name, at our laughingstock expense ?

Just wondering,
Lex

We confirmed it a while back that it was indeed Mr. Lear.

John Lear joined this board a while back as a guest speaker. He already has confirmed his identity to everyone, mods included.

It is the real John Lear!

Then, well met Mr. Lear !!! It is indeed an honor, Sir. Sorry for my doubts. I'm intrigued to hear more.

Lex

To be honest, John Lear, I do not doubt your sincerity when you state things. Nor do I doubt you have been told these things by people in the government when you were working with them. But my own opinion is that I think some of the things you were told by people were BS, and those who told you the stuff were either having a laugh at your expense, or hoped you would spread the word as an unwitting disinformation agent. Not that you are spreading disinfo deliberately. I just think some people have lied to you. Thats my opinion. Take it for what its worth. I do, however, think you have been given legit info mixed in there with the BS, and thus, I do like reading some of the stuff you post.

Thanks for your post Mistress. I always accept the possibility that I have been fed disinformation. That is why I take every opportunity to remind you that what I'm posting is only an opinion and that opinion is based on information from insiders, or rather, those whom I believe are insiders. That doesn't mean they're insiders. That doesn't mean it's true. It means that based on everything I've experienced, read, seen, felt, been told etc. etc.....I believe it to be true. It is an opinion. (sigh).

Originally posted by johnlear

Thanks for your post Mistress. I always accept the possibility that I have been fed disinformation. That is why I take every opportunity to remind you that what I'm posting is only an opinion and that opinion is based on information from insiders, or rather, those whom I believe are insiders. That doesn't mean they're insiders. That doesn't mean it's true. It means that based on everything I've experienced, read, seen, felt, been told etc. etc.....I believe it to be true. It is an opinion. (sigh).

I know. You have been very clear in stating it as opinion. And my comment was just that, opinion.

I suppose there really isn't much else you can do. And who knows. Maybe we do have stuff on Mars. What we do know of black projects is the tip of the iceberg. Its really hard to tell truth from BS when dealing with insiders. Look what happened with Doty and what they did to Bennewitz.

johnlear, I was wondering, where did you make these contacts?

Always through friends.

How did you become aware that they worked for the shadow gov't?

They always proceed everything they say by, "I can't really tell you anything but ask me a question."

How many contacts do you have?

More than 1, less than 5.

What departments do they work for?

Never discussed this.

Why did any of them confide in you? (no disrespect intended)

Most insiders believe the truth should be known but it is just too darn risky to talk.

Do you work for the gov't?

No.

How did you become privy to any of this information?

Many friends have many friends. Many have my same interests.

Opinions aside, how much of this do you know is truly fact?

"...know is truly fact' is too subjective. For instance you may believe that it is a 'true' fact that Neil Armstrong was the first man on the moon. Perhaps if you said, "John Lear how much of this can you prove?" it would be easier to answer: none of it.

If they did want to take you out, couldn't they just make it look like an accident?

the perfect, unattributable, regretable.

Do you personally know of any aliens?

No, sorry./.

At the top of the pyramid, are those in charge even human?
(I've just got to ask that last question, it just seemed right)

Cheops?

The population is being solved. Should be about 10% of what it is today by 2060.

U have a theory how that is gonna happen?Just out of curiousity.

Global warming is a scam. The idea was put there for just another thing for us to worry about.

Your wrong about this one.The polar ice cap as a whole is shrinking.Average temperatures in the Arctic region are rising twice as fast as they are elsewhere in the world.Satellite images prove this, its been studied and documented by scientists all over the world.These are proven facts and not someones opinion.Yet still u dare to say that global warming is all a scam.Well sir your opinion is insulting and for me u lost all your credibility there!

How often does the possibility cross your mind that you are being fed disinfo?

I always suspect disinfo. I thought Phil Schneider was disinfo to my eternal regret. The guy who phoned me the day after 911 and told me those airplanes were remotely controlled I thought was disnfo. Poor me.

So how much, I suppose I'm asking, do you scrutinise each new piece of information from your contacts to see if it's intended to do the same? I don't know how many contacts you have, but you must perhaps admit the possibility that, for example, one or another of them may be being fed disinfo themselves so that leaks can be tracked?

I not only admit the possiblility I trumpet the reality. As a friend of Richard C. Hoagland once told him, "The lie is different at every level".

I ask only as someone who tries to be open-minded yet is aware that there is so much going on of which I (we) know nothing.

An excellent approach to reality.

And thank you for putting me on to that "real as the nose on your face" thread. I never looked at it - I think the title put me off - and I'm very glad I have, although I've only looked at the first few pages.

For whatever reason, my friend, your destiny is truth.

The best thread I have ever read on this subject and one I believe to be true on every aspect was the one "Sleeper" started on ATS and is now closed. The name of the thread was "Are Extraterrestrials Real? As Real as The Nose On Your Face." This thread was more informative, has more 'real information' than any book, article, magazine or site I've ever read or seen.

Now your just bein silly.
If you have any real evidence to back up any of your claims then by all means bring it on.
'My Opinion'
None.

Edit: My bad, wrong [ ]

[edit on 6/15/06 by longhaircowboy]

Your wrong about this one.The polar ice cap as a whole is shrinking.Average temperatures in the Arctic region are rising twice as fast as they are elsewhere in the world.Satellite images prove this, its been studied and documented by scientists all over the world.These are proven facts and not someones opinion.Yet still u dare to say that global warming is all a scam.

Thanks for your opinion on global warming. I''m sure that you must be aware that the incidents about the polar cap and statistics you provide span and are representative of less than 20 years in 5 billion? Hello? Hello? "Clueless?' It's for you.

Originally posted by 9LC
wait how do we know this is john lear posting on this board?

I was hoping that my avatar of me in the Lockheed CF-104D Starfighter might be a clue. Bob Lazar took the picture. Mark and Gretchen Sherman of Phoenix, AZ provided the airplane. Darryl Greenamyer checked me out. Mach 1.7 over the Arizona countryside. What a ride!