Stop the BS of Depleted Uranium!

can we face the facts that this 'war on terror' is directly responsible for this?

www.scienceagogo.com...

the use of depleted uranium in munitions and weaponry is likely to come under intense scrutiny now that new research that found that uranium can bind to human DNA. The finding will likely have far-reaching implications for returned soldiers, civilians living in what were once war-zones and people who might live near uranium mines or processing facilities.

Uranium - when manifested as a radioactive metal - has profound and debilitating effects on human DNA. These radioactive effects have been well understood for decades, but there has been considerable debate and little agreement concerning the possible health risks associated with low-grade uranium ore (yellowcake) and depleted uranium.

Source: Northern Arizona University

Former atomic energy scientist, Dr Kitty Little claims the Rothschilds now control 80% of the world’s uranium supplies giving them a monopoly over nuclear power.

The History of the House of Rothschild Part II

Who is profiting from this global uranium nightmare? Dr. Jay Gould revealed in his book THE ENEMY WITHIN, that the British Royal family privately owns investments in uranium holdings worth over $6 billion through Rio Tinto Mines

www.venusproject.com...


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I don't know what you mean by "BS". People have been saying DU rounds cause seriously bad health effects for a long time. Your post proves this so I take it you mean it's BS that they are using it

This is kind of scary to think how many "war zones" are now unlivable and how many people and soldiers have been tainted by DU's effects. This could be a bomb shell (pun intended) when the full scale of what this has done comes out.

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The radioactivity of DPU is actually very small, such that most living animals are already more radioactive.

The danger is from heavy metal toxisity. Simply put, a battlefield contaminated with DPU is along the same lines of an ecological headache as a battlefield contaminated with high quantities of lead and/or mercury. Most bullets contain lead, and many high explosives contain mercury.

In other words, modern weapons are rarely ecologicly friendly.

dude! lead dosen't spaul on contact. or fragment into radioactive/HM smoke (sub microns) I don't know the danger ratio of lead to DU, but i do know that I didn't ever have to see HUNDREDS of pictures of mutation like this when good ole FMJ's were the norm. (i'd link some nasty stuff but invis already got warned)

IMO DU munitions are possibly the best example of humans screwing life up byond anyones control!

I agree, the BS needs to stop, but honestly.... what the # can any of us to do about this?

seirously... any sugestions?

[edit on 8/25/2006 by VaporTrail]

in the mean time i found some candy

Beyond Treason



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[edit on 25-8-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]

There's a thread about DU and it's dangers here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I also read an article in the newspaper magazine section a few weeks back.
Sound pretty nasty and dangerous, imho.

Here are some interesting articles concerning the subject:

Uranium bombing in Iraq contaminates Europe (March 20, 2006)
nyc.indymedia.org...

Radiation in Iraq Equals 250,000 Nagasaki Bombs (Revised July, 2004)
www.dissidentvoice.org...

Depleted uranium: Dirty bombs, dirty missiles, dirty bullets (Leuren Moret August 21, 2004)
www.globalresearch.ca... cle&code=MOR20040821&articleId=677

The International Atomic Energy Agency reported in 2003 that, "based on credible scientific evidence, there is no proven link between DU exposure and increases in human cancers or other significant health or environmental impacts,"

Also, according to the WHO, any evidence to link DU to cancer or other abnormalities is "tenuous" at best.

www.iaea.org...

www.who.int...

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[edit on 8/28/06 by pugachev]

Alot of powerful people in this world have a stake in the money here.
Basicly this is takeing harmful WASTE and shooting it into the sun.
Except the sun is now cleverly disguised as Terrorists.
Because of the effectiveness of this weapon, it can be marked up for sales to other countries. ( and when the materials are practicly free, as it is waste, the profits stand to be amazing.

watch Beyond Treason. Rokke, director of mil. research into DU, will tell you what it's like.

thanks for the info, very interesting.... 2001 WHO report... info gathered after gulf war 1...(350tons used) since 2001 another some 2,400 tons has gone into the same area. (Iraq)

Time will tell.

A side note...We were using DU in Iraq..Our soldiers got sick also from blowing up weapons bunkers full of radio active junk that fell back down on them..Those same soliders were denied treament, and told there was nothing wrong with them. Why?, because then there would be a question of where the weapons in the weapons bunker came from..hmmm...let me guess ...we now know that he was destroying the evidence that proved America gave Sadaam the weapns in the first place..DU Dirty Ugly

"...A war that could last a hundred years!" - Bush reply when asked about the war on terror... think about it! Wake up!

How come these problems weren't so rampent the 2nd time around?

the "2nd time round" is still going on.

my brother's set to deploy in 04•07, for his second tour.
him and I have talked about the obvious introduction of genocide into the area.
We laugh about it. how out of control it's gotten. how under-the-radar its gone.
amazing.

time will tell. (media access permitting.)

all i'm sayin' is that i hope my brother dosen't bunk up next to some "spent DU" when he's in deep with the 173rd airborne next year. there's no company intel for this sort of thing. just.... hope for the best. hoo-aahh!

The US gov. has already sent 400,000 + military personel to disabillity in the last 16 years....

is that right?

I'd just like to say that I'm getting rather appalled by the fact that links that show the results of DU exposure in terms of genetic damage are always deleted.

Yes, I know it's against the terms and conditions. I have never posted any myself. But I think it's important that people - in particular those who are so gung-ho about US forces invading other countries that they've been programmed to hate - should be able to see the results of their support for this murderous regime. In fact, I think that, in Clockwork Orange style, their eyelids should be clipped open and they should be forced to watch a prolonged slideshow of all the deformed babies born in DU-contaminated areas.

That might make them think a little.

Theres a good documentary out there called weapons of mass deception.
most people have probably seen it.

In one section, you see an Old Iraqi tank, that has been destroyed by a US tanks munitions.

The tank is rusting, laying half angled upwards in a ditch, with a large gaping slice in the armour.

The reporter, wearing a gas mask uses his gyger counter to get a reading of the RADS..

and its screaming its little a55 off.

This tank is DEFINATELY radio active because of the DU munitions used.

Yet, a soilder comes walking up, touching it, placing his body next to it, debating with the docco dood , saying it ISNT radio active. HE has been told its safe, so its safe.

yet the gyger counter says Drastically other wise.

I beleive if the IAEA beelive so badly that the DU isnt causing healt hconcerns.. they should go and make a public display of there trust in there findings, and camp nxt to a destroyed tank that reads off the scale....

The government cannot have the DU issue come to light, because the fighting force would basically refuse to fight i na battlezone where DU is, because if you manage to survive, regardless u will still suffer and die a horrible death as a RESULT.

Just from a soldiers point who has been to iraq. DU rounds from aircraft preforming close air support is extremely effective.

Also all U.S. soldiers during basic training are briefed on DU and its hazards
during trainup before deployment all soldiers are given an other briefing on DU
the day soldiers arrive in country they are onced again briefed on DU
so any soldier who said it was safe and not radioactive must of have either been at sick call, asleep, or not paying attention to any of those briefings, also during all briefings on DU that are lectured by the 99th inf Div. (a predeployment traing unit for all soldiers from east coast facilities) serveral NCOs moniter for sleeping soldiers and punish them on the spot. all soldiers at sick call must attened this briefing at an other time.

DU is very dangerous and not something to fool around with and i do not for a moment deny the consequences to civillians and ill informed soldiers, But a commander must use the most effective weapon available

to conclude i do not agree that keeping DU in the arsenal is all about money, but it is the company, battalion, brigade commanders who deem to be the most affective weapon in the situation. If there is a more effective less hazardous weapon the commander would use it. IE: when oakridge nat'l lab devolped a bullett that did not contain lead and was equal to the performance of lead bullets the army switched to the new green bullet. i hope this adds an other prespective to your valid and well justified concerns

man this "Beyond Treason" doc is amazing:

topdocumentaryfilms.com...

Over 200,000 Gulf War vets has Gulf War illness. The uranium oxides are deadly creating "chromosomal aberrations."

I got arrested protesting against depleted uranium weapons manufactured in the Twin Cities, Minnesota. Here's a good fact sheet on the production of depleted uranium weapons:

alliantaction.org...

alliantaction.org...

The judge nullified any fines for our trespassing arrest. So Alliant Tech moved their headquarters to Edina, with the quid pro quo that there'd be no jury trials for trespassing arrests!!

alliantaction.org...

In 2005, the city of Edina passed an ordinance to make trespassing a petty misdemeanor, similar to a speeding ticket - which meant that only bench trials would be held when the citations were challenged. Previously, those who were cited were charged with a misdemeanor under state statutes, resulting in the city expending time to prosecute the alleged violators, and for them to contest the charges in front of a jury. Hughes said, at the time, that it would be fair to say that the ordinance was written with the ATK protesters in mind. "It has certainly worked well in this instance," Hughes said. "I wouldn't say that Edina is the city that invented this process. Other cities have certainly categorized trespassing as a petty misdemeanor. I think it has definitely helped streamline the criminal proceedings in the wake of demonstrations."

Here's one of the more recent arrests at the world's largest munitions producer -- Alliant Tech in Minnesota:

blogs.citypages.com...

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[edit on 3-3-2010 by drew hempel]

Folks,
Puke.

DU is only hazardous if you are present (at close range) when it vaporizes. Chances are if you are close enough to see it vaporize you probably already have other problems to worry about.

I would be willing to believe that DU was hazardous to your health if we had more stories of folks who load it getting sick, with proof that they followed all safety precautions when loading it.

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Depleted Uranium goes into your bones and organs (thereby not showing up in urine tests) and the military doesn't want people tested for the radiation:

www.gulfwarvets.com...

[edit on 3-3-2010 by drew hempel]

Here's another amazing expose article on Depleted Uranium as the main cause of Gulf War Syndrome:

www.seattlepi.com...

[edit on 3-3-2010 by drew hempel]

alliantaction.org...

ATK – World's #1 Producer of Depleted Uranium Munitions ATK has supplied the US Department of Defense with over 16 million depleted uranium (DU) shells, most of which were machined and assembled at the Twin City Army Ammunition Plant (TCAAP) in Arden Hills, MN (a Superfund clean-up site). DU munitions contain a solid depleted uranium rod inside the shell. The DU 'penetrator' inside the shells are composed of uranium-238, a radioactive, alpha emitting metallic toxic waste left over from the uranium "enrichment" process. Combined with titanium, the DU alloy is extremely dense, self sharpening and makes devastating armor piercing ammunition. The shell literally burns through armor upon impact. A report by the Army Environmental Policy Institute (AEPI) describing research on hard target testing states "As much as 70% of a DU penetrator can be aerosolized when it strikes a tank..." forming micrometer-size uranium oxide particles that can be inhaled or ingested. DU munitions were extensively used in both gulf wars and Kosovo. Many leading medical experts feel 'Gulf War Syndrome' may be caused by DU exposure, among other things. The DoD continues to deny any problem or responsibility of DU exposure by civilians or soldiers. ATK refuses to release medical studies of Depleted Uranium production workers at TCAAP.