June 19, 2006 <--- Nuke Attack On America ???

i dont post much, and i dont know if anyone has said it yet, but june 19th is Juneteenth,AKA freedom day, celebrating the end of slavery. maybe we will all become slaves this time. just something to think about
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Thank you for your post...it helps everything make sense... The day DOES Mean something to the nWo After All... Great Work...You get WATS Vote! Just 1 Left!

Originally posted by Where2Hide2006
...it helps everything make sense... The day DOES Mean something to the nWo After All...

When FATHERS DAY comes and goes tomorrow with no "Nuke Attack," how much sense will everything make then?





seekerof

Originally posted by l0rds0fcha0s
north korea plans to fire missle that will reach the united states mainland

Maybe this is why our gov't. officials will be in bunkers. my guess is yes there will be a missle hit the us on monday. STEER CLEAR OF OHIO

lOrdsOfchaOs,

You imply in your post that Nth Korea is going to test fire a missile AT the US. The article you link to states that they will test a missile that, if pointed in the right direction, might have the capacity to reach the US. My Lord, there is a big distinction.

The Nth Koreans tested an ICBM in 2004, upping the tension between them and the US/Japan. A new test will up the tension even more, but I doubt the Chinese would be happy about Nth Korea triggering unprovoked war, especially after spending so much yen gearing up for the Beijing Olympics in 08!

Maybe this is flogging a dead horse, but if this thread had appeared on 1/09/2001, would Texas Volunteer have argued 'NOTHING is going to happen' on 9/11/2001? Who knows what's really going to happen on any date, hence we speculate. But we should keep our speculation speculative.

Yet it's as much folly to say 'nothing bad will happen' when so much maelstrom making is happening every day, as to say the end is nigh. We are teetering on the edge of a worldwide abyss every moment and every day we reach a new zenith of evolution (bugger off 'creation'). It's good and bad in equal parts when narcissist humans stare into the pond.

Just as people with clogged arteries and high blood pressure may need a stroke or a heart attack to shake them out of their habitual madness, if they're lucky to live through it, the world, I dread, is the same. We may just be so collectively stupid, so stubbornly primitive in the ancient basement of our brains, that we will need another Hiroshima/Nagasake before our frontal lobes set course towards ideal enlightenment. Or maybe evolution condemns us to soil our own nest as we simultaneously soar into the stratosphere.

The horror is that what we learn most from our monstrous deeds is how to do it more efficiently and on a bigger scale. Yet beauty is enhanced by what we find ever more repulsive. Let's face it, the world's not off to a great start in the 3rd millenium. The greatest of all horrors and the ultimate of all ironies is that we, the self appointed high priests of evolution, may annihilate ourselves BEFORE the mega comet cometh and miss the whole damn show! And somewhere in the world, in a little think tank, probably under threat of funding cuts, someone will learn the ultimate answer to the ultimate question and in the same instant, shzip, be vaporised.

Only hours now before June 19, 13 days after 6/6/6...

P.S. If someone nukes the US, the nation most alert to outside dangers, it will probably be one of your own. Discuss that!

Probably not anymore now Unless there's a sudden crackdown/shutdown of the internet to 'protect our freedom' I hope not though.

Originally posted by Seekerof

Originally posted by Where2Hide2006
...it helps everything make sense... The day DOES Mean something to the nWo After All...

When FATHERS DAY comes and goes tomorrow with no "Nuke Attack," how much sense will everything make then?





seekerof

Well tommorow is June 18th. The attack was said to be the 19th so I dont understand your point. Care to elaborate?

Originally posted by Seekerof

Originally posted by Where2Hide2006
...it helps everything make sense... The day DOES Mean something to the nWo After All...

When FATHERS DAY comes and goes tomorrow with no "Nuke Attack," how much sense will everything make then?





seekerof

yeah, im not sure what you mean either

tomorrow ( the 19th, not fathers day ) is the big day i guess

we'll see then...




[edit on 18-6-2006 by they see ALL]

Ditto with the father's day comment from seekerof. I think you got a date mixed up : ) .

Anyway, has anybody heard this story on any other news outlets? Local news and newspapers? Cnn? Fox news? Anything? I still can't find any actual report besides the washington post's.

Interesting coincidences:

SOURCE:
www.cnn.com...

TOKYO, Japan (AP) -- The United States and Japan urged North Korea not to proceed with reported plans to test-fire a long-range missile that could reach the U.S. mainland, saying Saturday that a launch would be dangerous and provocative.

Now, that don't mean much. They've tested weapons before and just fired em into the ocean. However, this bit is interesting:

Japan's conservative daily Sankei reported that the North Korean government has ordered its people to raise the national flag at 2 p.m. Sunday (5 a.m. GMT) and to watch a state message on television in the late afternoon.

Sooooooo....

June 18th (Sunday):

2PM: Raise Flag
LATER: Watch a state message on television

2PM June 18th Standard Korean Time (Pyongyang) == 10PM June 17th United States Pacific Time

2PM June 18th Standard Korean Time (Pyongyang) == 12PM June 18th United States Central Time

2PM June 18th Standard Korean Time (Pyongyang) == 1AM June 18th United States Eastern Time

Later times in North Korea produce later times in the U.S. as well.

SOURCE: www.timezoneconverter.com...

Well, everything there points to June 18th, so I don't see North Korea as the threat (as I think others have speculated) if the date is June 19th. Otherwise, our government is gunna be a little late ! However, the timing is interesting.

In other news:

www.cnn.com...

Essentially, there were planned attacks on N.Y. subway systems with deadly gas. Knowledge of this was aquired around 2003. This was a while ago, however, this might be "al qaeda's" new idea.

Source: www.thejewishweek.com...

In addition, since late may, there have been reports of a "growing concern" over the possibility of Hezbollah sleeper-cells in N.Y. being activated in the event of a conflict between Iran and the U.S over nuclear matters. I find it interesting that the poisonous gas was supposed to be in N.Y. , and that there are operatives in N.Y. , etc. Its all about new york! Seriously, you'd think they would go after some other city by now.

And of course, we have also been told that summer attacks are highly possible. So, do we need to worry? : YES. It may not be on the 19th of June, but attacks on the U.S. over the summer are HIGHLY likely, from what I have been reading.



[edit on 18-6-2006 by aggroskater]

Quoted from CNN

TOKYO, Japan (AP) -- The United States and Japan urged North Korea not to proceed with reported plans to test-fire a long-range missile that could reach the U.S. mainland, saying Saturday that a launch would be dangerous and provocative.

Is CNN deliberately trying to make it look like the North Koreans are firing this test missile AT the US? Is some sub-editor not seeing the implication of the introductory text?

More bad news.A guy named K is claiming that several U.S cities wuld be nuked and conventionally bombed.
read it for yourself

godlikeproductions.com.../18/06

i hope it is averted!

[edit on 18-6-2006 by warthog911]

Spooky.

You know. With the amount of false prophecies and made up information on the internet, it's easy to shrug everything we read and hear off as fake and/or made up. This week is coming together with quite a few very strange happenings throughout the world...I think it would be foolish of anyone to shrug everything off as pure coincidence. We will all just have to wait and see what the world has in store for us. While I hope it all means nothing, I will be preparing myself mentally for the worst.

"You have no doubt heard rumors that posit a "live event" between June 19 and June 24. These rumors should not be dismissed as wild conspiracy theories."

Hmm , he sounds very sure of it.

(Original posted by "K" on godlikeproductions.com)
starting from the middle of next week, there will be an enormous loss of life; and everyone will be pointing fingers once citizens have recovered from the initial shock.

I still believe the 22nd
Bush is in Hungary that day.

But - we could all be wrong -
this could happend through many days.

you know it could be poison: Ezekiel 25:17 "The path of the righteous is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.
Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper, and the finder of lost children.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

[edit on 18-6-2006 by Ram]

Originally posted by warthog911
More bad news.A guy named K is claiming that several U.S cities wuld be nuked and conventionally bombed.
read it for yourself

godlikeproductions.com.../18/06

i hope it is averted!

[edit on 18-6-2006 by warthog911]

Yes I read it for myself. So? Who is 'K'? Kim Jong Il himself? No, its half clever Krap designed to suck in the suckable. Have you read the rest of that GODLIKEPRODUCTION thread? So what? Only K is having fun. Let mere mortals run and run. They talk of imminent demise. Let fools content themselves with lies.

Originally posted by Ram

(Original posted by "K" on godlikeproductions.com)
starting from the middle of next week, there will be an enormous loss of life; and everyone will be pointing fingers once citizens have recovered from the initial shock.

I still believe the 22nd
Bush is in Hungary that day.



Ezekiel 25:17 "The path of the righteous is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.
Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper, and the finder of lost children.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

[edit on 18-6-2006 by Ram]

Ahh pulp fiction

yea i just came to think of that pulp fiction thing... Pretty dramatic.

Good find warthog911 - That K guy had more information than anyone would have come up with around here..

I wonder if we should post all he's words here?
he made 20 post...so far.

I guess we would need a Moderator to post K's words. It's pretty much information, that could safe human lifes if this is true. i mean - how long quotes can we make here?


[edit on 18-6-2006 by Ram]

here you go

Composite of the posts of "K" in this thread (all timestamps are EDT):

Subject: I must warn the American people that their lives are in grave danger
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K
User ID: 107046
6/17/2006 7:51:00 PM

You have no doubt heard rumors that posit a "live event" between June 19 and June 24. These rumors should not be dismissed as wild conspiracy theories.
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K
User ID: 107046
6/17/2006 8:01:00 PM

You must understand that there are no clear lines of accountability here; that at every juncture along the way each "change agent" has his or her own take on plausible deniability. That's been built into the system for a long time. I know, because I helped to put these things in place.
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K
User ID: 107046
6/17/2006 8:07:00 PM

Something that amuses me about younger people today who are enamoured beyond all reason with the communicative advantages of the internet, believing that such discussions are unique to their own time in history, is that they fail to understand that almost everything has been covered before in endless backroom discussions as early as the Kennedy administration. You can say that back then we had a more fluid internet, although somewhat constrained by technological limitations of paper and print.
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K
User ID: 107046
6/17/2006 8:15:00 PM

If I were a normal citizen of the United States (and I cannot take up enough space to extemporize on the very peculiar meaning of the adjective "normal" as it applies to me, although many of you are familiar with my face, perhaps glimpsed occasionally on television) I would suggest you contact the FBI. However, for reasons that are too complex to analyze here, the FBI will not help you. On the contrary, you would only make of yourself a moving target and a subject of critical, extraordinary importance.
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K
User ID: 107046
6/17/2006 8:27:00 PM

I think I would have a very hard job telling you why these events, should they transpire as planned (and I have no reason to doubt their integrity of intentions), are partially designed to make your lives less uncomfortable over the course of ensuing years. The motive is informed not only by concerns of governmental and economic self-preservation at the higher levels of the power structure, it is also driven by the imperative of a corollary benefit: that of assisting the American people "as a whole" throughout a phase of extraordinarily difficult transition. However, in the short term, starting from the middle of next week, there will be an enormous loss of life; and everyone will be pointing fingers once citizens have recovered from the initial shock. I think you should be aware of this before examining or disseminating unqualified conspiracy theories.
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K
User ID: 107046
6/17/2006 8:44:00 PM

I travel very frequently (although these days in an almost wholly private capacity) and I reside both within and without the borders of the United States. Whenever I have the time, I make an effort to read analyses published to the Internet in various fora and publications, and while the quality is comparable to that of the print media (in many cases much better), there is till very little I have not heard before.

Many years before most of you were born, I was asked my opinion on Operation Mongoose. I told my enquirer that I considered it a very foolhardy enterprise that would do little to foster America's security and economic well-being. This particular gentleman was not at all happy with my reply, so he waited two days and phoned me close to midnight. "Tell me again," he said, "you have a favorable opinion of the operation and are sure of it success, aren't you?"

"No," I told him, "I don't have a favorable opinion. But I know that it's very important for you to believe that I have a favorable opinion. Therefore, if it helps, then let me assure you that you are at liberty to believe anything you want."

I find myself in a very similar situation today. I have been asked the same kind of questions in regard to what has been planned to take place next week. History repeats itself; only the faces change.
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K
User ID: 107046
6/17/2006 8:56:00 PM

As far as my relationship to the current administration is concerned, I am naturally loyal, for I served successive administrations for a number of years and possess enormous respect for the men and women who dedicate their lives to civic government. But I am an old man and have a fairly wide reach in terms of understanding processes not fully perceived by those I (perhaps wrongly or misguidedly) see as my juniors, at least insofar as their experience in foreign affairs is concerned. I did not support the invasion of Iraq, which I still believe to have been a colossal strategic mistake, and I have further advised the administration to deal diplomatically with Iran, yet I have remained circumspect in my public utterances.
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K
User ID: 107046
6/17/2006 9:12:00 PM

It is their intention to detonate an undisclosed number of relatively small nuclear devices, such atrocities confined not just to NYC and Washington DC, but also "delivered" in at least three blue-collar conurbations, with Detroit and Houston heading the list. Los Angeles and Chicago may be hit by a series of conventional explosions, similar to those which destroyed the Alfred P. Murrah building in Oklahoma City. I suspect there is much more planned, for I can no longer assume that this administration is being entirely honest in its dealings with former federal employees.

I have no information as to material specifications. I have been assured that I am safe in my current location, which is not in the United States. Yet I am unhappy about the way in which I was informed, the timing of the warning and the impact this has had on my family and a number of my colleagues.
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K
User ID: 107046
6/17/2006 9:27:00 PM

In answer to your question, the issue is not really Iran at all. The issue is focused on the fundamental weaknesses of the economy of the United States, and the growing non-partisan rift between those who are happy to lose completely our manufacturing base and those who insist we should at least make an effort to rebuild our manufacturing capacity in light of future projections.

It is not simply a question of economics. Recent years have seen Pentagon acquisition personnel camp out overnight in the Treasury Department because they insisted on having certain products manufactured in the United States instead of China or India. To some extent, we have exported our national security to countries which do not share our international objectives. Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran are, of course, part of the wider picture. But it was in the course of overseas deployments and battlefield exigencies that a huge number of unforeseen vulnerabilities became apparent, and Mr Rumsfeld was unable to meet these unexpected requirements. If it had not been for the Israelis working at short notice around the clock, American troops in Iraq would be firing blanks.
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K
User ID: 107046
6/17/2006 9:33:00 PM

Yes, the entire rationale behind the attacks is to acquire rapid and overwhelming support for policies upon which the administration would default on the national debt and the budget deficit. Martial law would have to be invoked as an initial response to the sort of anarchy witnessed in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, but it is not envisaged as a long-term solution to disorder, if only because Americans tend to do best when they give their consent to federal planners.
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[edit on 18-6-2006 by warthog911]

K
User ID: 107046
6/17/2006 9:47:00 PM

The nature of the discussion which has dominated Pentagon and Treasury thinking these past two years revolves around one central question:

Is the security of the United States best served on a global basis, not only in terms of our military spread, but also in terms of diversifying and internationalizing our military-industrial base, or on the basis of a repatriated manufacturing capability?

The big problem for us lies in our ability to placate potential adversaries by giving them a big enough piece of the cake, which in turn serves our dollar policy best. China, for instance, although smartly disadvantaged in our eastward push, is paradoxically committed to providing some of the tools our military men need to accomplish their objectives. China knows that her short to medium-term profit is mitigated by the inevitability of less influence in Asia.

We are playing a very dangerous poker game and nobody can afford to blink.
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K
User ID: 107046
6/17/2006 10:08:00 PM

Let me further emphasize the extent to which we have endangered our long-term national security by exporting manufacturing and corporate management deals, while at the same time stressing my general support for the process known as globalization.

The invasion of Iraq would scarcely have been possible without the logistical and financial support of Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and the UAE. I was not among those outraged by the "Dubai Ports Acquisition" deal, because the authority in question was shorn of all geo-political considerations. It simply represented payback for services rendered, and in perpetuity.

It was the way in which this deal was handled (mostly in secrecy) that led to widespread discontent. Furthermore, few congressmen and senators have been provided with a comprehensive overview of the new economic-security duopoly, their retaining somewhat fanciful notions of a domestic manufacturing capability that no longer exists.

If the dollar is to prolong its primacy in international trading markets, we need to ensure that non-nationals are engaged in manufacturing activities animated by our defense procurement budget. Please don't forget that we allocate more funding to defense than all other nations of the world together. It represents our single greatest industrial, scientific and intellectual enterprise.
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K
User ID: 107046
6/17/2006 10:24:00 PM

Woodrow Wilson did indeed warn of such forces, yet I see them in more prosaic terms than he, and none more clearly than in the conflict between both groups right across the board within our own government. Had Donald Rumsfeld been relieved of his duties, this would have represented an enormous victory for the Pentagon planners campaigning for a return to a domestic manufacturing base.

However, President Bush is not of the same view, believing that America's interests lie beyond what most of us had accepted as rational globalization. Should, for instance, America's heartland be destroyed in a nuclear exchange that [by some chance] did not solicit an immediate, retaliatory response, the United States military, not wholly dependent on US continental manufacturing and re-tooling, could inarguably survive to fight another day, or at least defend offshore US facilities and seats of government.

E Pluribus Unum: Is the continental landmass of the United States an important factor in the continued hegemony of the United States government, or can it be sacrificed, albeit partially, for the "greater good"?
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K
User ID: 107046
6/17/2006 10:47:00 PM

This is the crux of the matter: Should the United States as a nation state dissolve itself into the body politic of the global leviathan in order to ensure its international reach, or should the United States retreat to a position similar to that seen prior to the Nixon administration?

The current administration, laudable in many respects, has perhaps pushed the envelope too far, too quickly and in a way that was only possible in a military flight-forward on the grand chessboard of south west, central and south Asia. The catastrophe in Iraq has delayed what many observers once believed would be the swift march of democracy and new markets throughout the Middle East and Asia. Effecting regime change in Iran by means of military intervention is therefore unconscionable, leading as it would to a widening of the conflict beyond the Muslim world to engulf the greater part of the global polity in a protracted war or series of hot wars. Inevitably, such a conflict would see the use of nuclear weaponry, laying waste to resources vital to the economic viability of all developed and developing nations.

However, the United States is faced with an economic challenge it cannot hope to resolve without taking extraordinary measures. The choice is this: Do we downgrade the economic viability of the continental landmass of the United States (spoiling the pack) in a bid to escape creditor liabilities, or do we accept such obligations (forced upon us by a weakening dollar) and repatriate our manufacturing capabilities, simultaneously losing our global military hegemony?
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K
User ID: 107046
6/17/2006 11:03:00 PM

The attacks planned for next week are in keeping with the imperative of those who argue for spoiling the pack to a minimal extent, allowing for massive credit defaults, while still pressing for the expansion of some kind of institutional presence in Syria, Iran and beyond. Furthermore, rather than play the "wounded dog" card alone, the United States would aggressively play the "mad dog" card, making it explicitly clear to all global players that any action on the part of the SEA, EU and Beijing-Tianjin-Hebei economies to wholly or partially abandon the dollar in international trades would have military implications. By that I mean the implicit and very real, deliverable threat of a nuclear strike against any nation or trading bloc that sought to conduct business injurious to the dollar or the economic well-being of American interests at home or abroad.
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K
User ID: 107046
6/17/2006 11:16:00 PM

I am currently slightly out of favor with the administration, yet they continue to defer to my advice on account of my experience, knowledge and very advanced years. I have, however, been given no indication as to the yields they intend to deploy. I can only say that their intention is to obtain levels of structural damage and human losses that provide the desired outcome in terms of universally accepted defaults on trillions of dollars of debt and deficits, and the submission of the American people to a vastly reordered society.

I don't agree with this strategy, but I must concede that it possesses its own logic. It's an inelegant solution, but a solution nonetheless.
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K
User ID: 107046
6/17/2006 11:19:00 PM

I am responding to your questions. Please read what I have said.
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So after the US gats nuked by Islamic fundementalists. How many muslems do you think are going to be dragged behind cars in citys around the US. How many will be hanging from trees and poles. How many will be just plain shot dead. And how about the countries that supplied the nukes, what do you think the US will do, let them get away with it.